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Old 02-16-2011, 07:59 PM
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Which ones are the best?

Hi i would like to replace my stock headlight bulbs for some brigther i was thinking on 6000 or 8000k wath you guys recommend and wath brands an were can i buy those
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higher on the kelvin scale does not mean brighter.

for the best visibility stick with 4300 kelvin.
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it you want that blueish-white tint to your lights, with an okay visibility, i would suggest going with 6000k bulbs.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
for the best visibility stick with 4300 kelvin.
Pfft. Headlights are not so you can see where you're going in the dark, they are to warn oncoming vehicles that you are there and not to cross over to the wrong side.
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Originally Posted by stvtec
Pfft. Headlights are not so you can see where you're going in the dark, they are to warn oncoming vehicles that you are there and not to cross over to the wrong side.
What?!?! What do you do if you're up in the mountains/boonies in the dark with no street lights or oncoming traffic?

OP, if you want the best of visibility and color, look into the OSRAM Xenarc CBI D2S bulbs. You can find out more about them here:
http://osram.com/osram_com/News/Trad...e_Intense.html

And pictures from HIDplanet here, from actual users:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?36407 there are some from TL users as well, I believe he's a member on here as well. I just got mine, but haven't put them in yet, waiting to open up the headlights and put in ZKW-R lenses in too

These are a breakthrough because with typical "colored" bulbs you lose A LOT of output for the color, the CBI are rated 5000k (pretty much PURE white) but still has 3400lm that's 200lm brighter than your stock Osram bulbs that are the yellowish 4300k!!!

The CBI's will be hard to find and expensive, but if you want the best in terms of color and output, no doubt it's the Osram CBI's
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6000K is horrible.
4300K Phillips 85122+
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Originally Posted by 1thomas1
What?!?! What do you do if you're up in the mountains/boonies in the dark with no street lights or oncoming traffic?
Red text means I am being super srs.
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I put 8000K in my Passat and the first rain on an unlit highway I was basically blind .. couldn't see sh*t. Took them out soon as I got home.

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Originally Posted by stvtec
Red text means I am being super srs.
stop being so cereal.
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it really just depends on the color you want??
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it really just depends on the color you want??
basically.
the higher you go on the kelvin scale the more "blue" the light is.
12000 Kelvin is purple.
but the visibility would most likely SUCK.
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Originally Posted by ChasePayne
it really just depends on the color you want??
No. It aslo depends on whether you want to see or not.

I had seen somewhere a chart showing how visibility changes with color temp, but can't find it. I did, however, find this:

"Colour temperature ('K') vs brightness...It is a common misconception that higher colour temperatures (K’s) produce brighter lights. This is not true. The colour temperature only determines the colour but not the brightness of the HID light. The Colour Temperature is simply a scale represented by the Kelvin Temperature Chart (hence the abbreviation “K” or “K’s”) as decpited above that measures the colour of the light output. Typically, the higher the colour temperature, the closer you get to achieving bluish to purplish light colours."

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"The higher the Kelvin, the less light output you get (lumens).
With that said, anything over 6000K is basically a waste.
So, what is the best bulb? IMO the 4300K is the best, as it has the highest light output. The problem, though, is that they have a yellow-ish tinge to them that some people find un-attractive. In that case, 5000-6000k is a better choice for you..... as they have a more blue look to them."


Here is a good chart



Some other good info from this site.

And a comparison of Kelvin to lumens;
Standard OEM halogen 55W 9006(HB4) = 1100lm (lumens)

4300k D2S Philips = 3200lm (lumens)
4300k D2R Philips = 2800lm (lumens)
4300k D2S Philips = 2400lm (lumens) actually 5800k
4300k D2R Philips = 2000lm (lumens) actually 5800k
4800k D4S/R (brand) = 3800 (lumens) ** brightest in the market
5800k D4S/R (brand) = 3300 (lumens)
7000k D2S other = 1790lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand)
7000k D2R other = 1390lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand)
8000k D2S other = 1180lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand)
8000k D2R other = 780lm (lumens) *(other bulb brand)

Higher than 8000k, the light output significantly drops off, causing the light to be almost useless.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ghtness-output)
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Yep. And if you think about it, WHITE light has all the colors of the spectrum in it. Anything else (purple, blue, etc) is shifted away from pure white. Our eyes are adapted to see white light (since that is what our sun puts out), so anything else is going to be worse for visibility.
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another vote for stock 4300k bulbs!
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I'm getting new bulbs replaced this weekend. going with the Honda OEM 4300K. I'm just wondering if anyone can show a picture of how it looks.

Thanks.
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We've had great experiences with KAIXEN D2C bulbs. High quality, long life, good light output. I'd recommend the 5000K since it emits the most light; it is natural white color.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-236445.aspx
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Originally Posted by wonton
I'm getting new bulbs replaced this weekend. going with the Honda OEM 4300K. I'm just wondering if anyone can show a picture of how it looks.

Thanks.





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I'd go 5000K max.




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