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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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From the looks of that it seems the TL was going really slow.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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i don't think anyone will admit it's them after watching the video!
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:17 AM
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I'll tell you right now there isn't a single TL out there or at least on Acurazine that would be that truck. The truck ran a 12.3.... and then again the TL was awfully slow.

15.6.... that's more like a 1G 2.5TL 1320.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by visuelz
From the looks of that it seems the TL was going really slow.
yea, even a tsx could of done that j/k
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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thats one bad driver
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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IT WAS ME!!!! no i'm just kidding, i was bored at work... my car is anthracite...and its never been on the track....
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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I'll tell you right now there isn't a single TL out there or at least on Acurazine that would be that truck. The truck ran a 12.3.... and then again the TL was awfully slow.

15.6.... that's more like a 1G 2.5TL 1320.
yeah, i don't think that we will ever see a street legal 3G TL go faster than 12.3. you are prob talking about 400-450 whp to achieve that number in the TL.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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yeah, i don't think that we will ever see a street legal 3G TL go faster than 12.3. you are prob talking about 400-450 whp to achieve that number in the TL.
It sounded like there was a supercharger in the TL also =[
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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that tl driver, doesnt kno how to drive, wow, that piece beat him
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003BlizAkTL
that tl driver, doesnt kno how to drive, wow, that piece beat him
NO TL driver, even in a supercharged TL, will beat a 12.8... That piece would beat almost anything out there under $60K. That piece was HOOKED UP.

Respect the times.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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The TL owner was probably laughing when they first lined up, stunned 4-5 seconds later, and crying when it was over. Awesome.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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I just can't get over how slow the TL is...

When I bought mine, the dealer was shocked when I told him my 07 SE V6 Clamry would devour the TL. I thought the TL would run a little closer to the Camry, but every time I launch it, I'm like WTF... My Sequoia is just as fast!

Hopefully it'll "break in" and pick up a couple a tenths?
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Guys...
It's not a sports car... Especially if you're not driving a stick.

It's an entry level pseudo sports luxury sedan... and a 2007 Camry will not devour a TL. Perhaps a manual Camry and an auto TL would be a devouring, but = tranny's and = drivers and it's about a draw.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
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It's not a sports car... Especially if you're not driving a stick.

It's an entry level pseudo sports luxury sedan... and a 2007 Camry will not devour a TL. Perhaps a manual Camry and an auto TL would be a devouring, but = tranny's and = drivers and it's about a draw.
07 Clamry V6 runs 0-60 in 6.1 and 1/4 mile in the low 14s about 100 MPH, they only come in automatic and this would be running it right off the showroom floor... No mods!

Best I've seen a stock TL auto do is 0-60 in 7 flat... Almost a full second behind an automatic Clamry

I traded my 07 SE V6 for the TL because it needed a new transmission to solve a cold start shift flare between 3rd and 4th gears.

I simply wouldn't tollerate a "rebuild" to a 3.5 month old car.

If the TL takes me down the same path, I'm gonna buy a chitbox Kia or other Chinese made crap... It'll probably be trouble free for 200K!

New on the Left - - the TL spanker on the right


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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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TL driver probably just forgot to turn off VSA
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TriniBwoy
TL driver probably just forgot to turn off VSA
Forgive me... I know all about search and all that, but... Is VSA = Traction Control & Skid Control????

On my Clamry, I was able to disable TRAC (traction control) by going through a midevil process of hitting the parking brake and the foot brake shortly after turning the car on provided my hair was parted to the right... I could in no way turn off the VSC (vehicle skid control).

I know where the button is... Just curious without digging to deeply if they're one in the same, i.e. TRAC and VSC?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by onsknth
07 Clamry V6 runs 0-60 in 6.1 and 1/4 mile in the low 14s about 100 MPH, they only come in automatic and this would be running it right off the showroom floor... No mods!

Best I've seen a stock TL auto do is 0-60 in 7 flat... Almost a full second behind an automatic Clamry

I traded my 07 SE V6 for the TL because it needed a new transmission to solve a cold start shift flare between 3rd and 4th gears.

I simply wouldn't tollerate a "rebuild" to a 3.5 month old car.

If the TL takes me down the same path, I'm gonna buy a chitbox Kia or other Chinese made crap... It'll probably be trouble free for 200K!

New on the Left - - the TL spanker on the right

First, smart move. You're not the 1st to discuss tranny issues with the new Camry. The most people compalin about here, as petty as it is, is the occassional rattles that develops from a car that composed of over 4000 modualr parts.

Second, there are 100 threads on this topic (Camry vs. TL)... Racing by carmag published numbers is hardly a testament of the cars capabilities.

Racing automatics and comparing times on them is is silly, as the tranny lockup is controlled by an ECU to reduce driver perceived shift harshness. The tranny ECU controls the 1/4 mile... I could be smoking you with power, but the tranny is slushboxing it to give you a luxury feel.

You're probably confusing the "luxury" power robbing shifts of the TL with that of the broken down but more snappy Camry's.

To race two automatics proper, it's a race to top speed + a mile to be fair.

FYI:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
2004 Acura TL 6.3 14.8
2004 Acura TL 6 speed 6.0 14.44

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura--TL-Drag-Racing.html
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Second, there are 100 threads on this topic (Camry vs. TL)... Racing by carmag published numbers is hardly a testament of the cars capabilities.

To race two automatics proper, it's a race to top speed + a mile to be fair.
1. The new Clamry???

2. The Clamry shuts off at 162 MPH, the TL @ 150 MPH
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by onsknth
1. The new Clamry???

2. The Clamry shuts off at 162 MPH, the TL @ 150 MPH
Search is your friend:
https://acurazine.com/forums/search.php?searchid=453166

Hmm... How'd this happen:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vG3IrBjgGR8

Stupid... but impressive. and that's with 3-4 morons in the car.

Think that Camry will get to 162?

and I'm yet to feel "devoured" or "spanked".
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by onsknth
Forgive me... I know all about search and all that, but... Is VSA = Traction Control & Skid Control????

On my Clamry, I was able to disable TRAC (traction control) by going through a midevil process of hitting the parking brake and the foot brake shortly after turning the car on provided my hair was parted to the right... I could in no way turn off the VSC (vehicle skid control).

I know where the button is... Just curious without digging to deeply if they're one in the same, i.e. TRAC and VSC?

Thanks!
VSA = Vehicle Stability Assist
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Search is your friend:
https://acurazine.com/forums/search.php?searchid=453166

Think that Camry will get to 162?
What's up w/ the link? I know all about the "search police"

Anyway, yes I do know the 07 V6 CLAMry will get to 162...

Next.

Remember I just got rid of the CLAMry for a TL.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by onsknth
What's up w/ the link? I know all about the "search police"

Anyway, yes I do know the 07 V6 CLAMry will get to 162...

Next.

Remember I just got rid of the CLAMry for a TL.
Well I guess the Clamry is a far superior, and just plain downright faster vehicle...
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Well I guess the Clamry is a far superior, and just plain downright faster vehicle...
puleeze.... I've been around the block, never said it was superior, just that it will spank it.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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this is freaking hilarious!!!

How did a thread about a TL running 15.6 went into a heavy TL/Camry debate..............

1) The Driver of that TL didn't really know how to track his car on 1/4 strip
2) The truck ran high 12s, I respect that number. Even my S/C'd TL won't beat it on a fantastic day.
3) I would take a stock TL over any V6 Camry anyday of the year. It's a freaking camry, you drive that car when you don't care much about cars except it being Toyota/reliable/safe.
4) 268hp Camry running low 14s...... boy you need to do some research, don't let the paper time take the best of you. There is a reason why the Camry is much cheaper than an Acura TL.............
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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No point in discussing that man but there is always someone who has to ruin a thread with having a pissing contest with a car other than the TL like we care. It seems lately its nothing but G35 this and Camry that well then go to a different forum.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
this is freaking hilarious!!!

How did a thread about a TL running 15.6 went into a heavy TL/Camry debate..............

1) The Driver of that TL didn't really know how to track his car on 1/4 strip
2) The truck ran high 12s, I respect that number. Even my S/C'd TL won't beat it on a fantastic day.
3) I would take a stock TL over any V6 Camry anyday of the year. It's a freaking camry, you drive that car when you don't care much about cars except it being Toyota/reliable/safe.
4) 268hp Camry running low 14s...... boy you need to do some research, don't let the paper time take the best of you. There is a reason why the Camry is much cheaper than an Acura TL.............
All I can say is this... I've had the TL less than a week, maybe it gets faster as it wears in?

Whatever the case, it's my perception that I've seen the needle climb the speedo faster in the Clamry and my ass pretty much confirms it... Not to mention the fact that I developed some habits while driving the Clamry that have afforded me the ability to compare. I'm talking about knowing a daily traveled spot in a road after a dead stop and the speed the car should be doing by that point, the TL IS NOT hitting the same speed as the Clamry.

Finally... Yes, I wanted to take the Clamry to the strip and put down my own figures, unfortunately it closed for the season and I was awaiting reopening in the spring. Instead I have had to live through others, and interestingly enough, they're all getting about the same performance.

When the strip reopens in the Spring, what are the chances I'll post a slip like this for the TL?

http://www.dragtimes.com/2007-Toyota...ecs-10338.html
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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by all means hit the strip and post your camry time. But again, you're missing the point..........

the point is, this is about a slow TL running at 1/4 mile track........ it isn't about Camry vs TL. Most of us can careless if the Camry is faster or how well it does on a 1/4 strip. Camry is a nice ride but just isn't the topic on this thread. You got the point so far?
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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camry = all over the road, my grandma drives one

i could have bought a camry, but i wanted a TL. I gurantee if you put the two on a track, not 1/4, the TL would win.

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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
the point is, this is about a slow TL running at 1/4 mile track........ it isn't about Camry vs TL. Most of us can careless if the Camry is faster or how well it does on a 1/4 strip. Camry is a nice ride but just isn't the topic on this thread. You got the point so far?
Well then why do you keep insisting the TL would take the Camry in 1/4?

FWIW - I'm just defending a comment I made about what others were saying about the TL's track time in the vid.
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Originally Posted by onsknth
Well then why do you keep insisting the TL would take the Camry in 1/4?

FWIW - I'm just defending a comment I made about what others were saying about the TL's track time in the vid.
I'm insisting that the TL would take the Camry ... you failed to read the dragtimes link I posted where there are 3 TL's that beat your posted Camry time.
Granted, those 3 all seem to be manuals... So what. If the TL's auto is tuned for "comfort", you'll always win, even if I have more HP.

Needless to say we're talking 1-2 tenths of a second... hardly a devouring.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by onsknth
Well then why do you keep insisting the TL would take the Camry in 1/4?

FWIW - I'm just defending a comment I made about what others were saying about the TL's track time in the vid.
where in the post did I insist the TL could take a Camry? I know my TL can take your camry but no where in this thread did I ever mention Camry vs TL.

again........... you failed to see my point sir.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ding069
camry = all over the road, my grandma drives one

i could have bought a camry, but i wanted a TL. I gurantee if you put the two on a track, not 1/4, the TL would win.

acuradriver2006, if thats your girl
it is, and thanks
If I didn't care about cars or the luxury, I'd get a Camry too......
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Originally Posted by ding069

I gurantee if you put the two on a track, not 1/4, the TL would win.
The suspension/chassis setup in the TL is tuned more towards performance driving than the Camry SE V6's 'middle of the road' setup. So straightline aside, the TL should win.

Sidenote on that top speed reading (re: You Tube), speedometers tend to lose some calibration at higher speeds.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
The suspension/chassis setup in the TL is tuned more towards performance driving than the Camry SE V6's 'middle of the road' setup. So straightline aside, the TL should win.
My sentiments exactly.
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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just to say, tha Camry might feel faster than the TL because it has a little bit of a softer suspension and that makes it lean back when you floor it and it seems like it's taking off, vs the TL stays more level....also, i do agree that a 07 V6 camry would whip a Auto TL-P,the specs say it all, but if you go with the 6MT, the 6-Speed MT TL 3.2 did a 5.7 back in 2004 when C&D tested it, and the new TL-S is under 5.5...so that 6.1 in the camry isn't bad at all, and the car is nice but why did toyota have to mess up on the tranny??
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Agreed I am also curious how this thread turned into a Camry vs. TL thread. I thought the Camry was readily compared to the Honda Accord, the Nissan Altima, and the Ford Fusion where as the TL is compared to Lexus, BMW, and Infinity. Why are we comparing to totally different cars again????

Regarding speed there are a few cars that are cheaply made cars (like the Camry) that will outrun a TL...ie a Mazda 3 Speed, or an EVO, or the WRX. I didn't buy my TL to race and find it has adequate power for me. I believe the TL holds the corners better...and I may be mistaken on this but I thought the TL did something like .86g in the corners and the new Camry around .82. The old 2006 Camry being a miserable .77....like a minivan cornering for goodness sakes. I also couldn't find the 0-60 numbers at Car and Driver on the new Camry, however, according to three years of testing on the TL, they have posted 5.7, 5.8, and 5.9 to 60 with the TL in each year's test. Doesn't sound as slow as it was described here.

Regarding all that bragging about how fast that Camry is.

My wife has a little Subaru Forester XT (you know the little four door station wagon with the little hood scoop that makes you want to laugh at it). Anyhow she said she would be happy to show you how fast your Camry ain't. She loves running against Mustang GT's with it. And even if another driver beats her up to say 80, it's pretty hard for them to go bragging that they took their 8 cylinder sports car up against a stock 4 cyclinder, 4 door station, with a chick driver and either lost to her or maybe beat her by a few feet.

Subaru Forester 2.5XT (per Car and Driver)

C/D TEST RESULTS

ACCELERATION (Seconds)
Zero to 30 mph: 1.3
40 mph: 2.6
50 mph: 3.6
60 mph: 5.3
70 mph: 6.9
80 mph: 9.2
90 mph: 11.8
100 mph: 15.0
110 mph: 19.5
120 mph: 26.7
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.3
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.4
50-70 mph: 8.1
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.8 sec @ 97 mph
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Agreed I am also curious how this thread turned into a Camry vs. TL thread. I thought the Camry was readily compared to the Honda Accord, the Nissan Altima, and the Ford Fusion where as the TL is compared to Lexus, BMW, and Infinity. Why are we comparing to totally different cars again????

Regarding speed there are a few cars that are cheaply made cars (like the Camry) that will outrun a TL...ie a Mazda 3 Speed, or an EVO, or the WRX. I didn't buy my TL to race and find it has adequate power for me. I believe the TL holds the corners better...and I may be mistaken on this but I thought the TL did something like .86g in the corners and the new Camry around .82. The old 2006 Camry being a miserable .77....like a minivan cornering for goodness sakes. I also couldn't find the 0-60 numbers at Car and Driver on the new Camry, however, according to three years of testing on the TL, they have posted 5.7, 5.8, and 5.9 to 60 with the TL in each year's test. Doesn't sound as slow as it was described here.

Regarding all that bragging about how fast that Camry is.

My wife has a little Subaru Forester XT (you know the little four door station wagon with the little hood scoop that makes you want to laugh at it). Anyhow she said she would be happy to show you how fast your Camry ain't. She loves running against Mustang GT's with it. And even if another driver beats her up to say 80, it's pretty hard for them to go bragging that they took their 8 cylinder sports car up against a stock 4 cyclinder, 4 door station, with a chick driver and either lost to her or maybe beat her by a few feet.

Subaru Forester 2.5XT (per Car and Driver)

C/D TEST RESULTS

ACCELERATION (Seconds)
Zero to 30 mph: 1.3
40 mph: 2.6
50 mph: 3.6
60 mph: 5.3
70 mph: 6.9
80 mph: 9.2
90 mph: 11.8
100 mph: 15.0
110 mph: 19.5
120 mph: 26.7
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.3
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.4
50-70 mph: 8.1
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.8 sec @ 97 mph
wow, ^^^^ that little station wagon is fast, damn it's basically like a 07 TL-S, it's funny how your wife loves to race and can beat you in your TL.lol.

BTW, yea there are many cheap cars that outrun a TL because that's what they're made for, but the TL is still a fast car, very fast actually compared to avarage vehicles on the road, it can beat a very high percentage of cars on the road....but also comparing a camry to an sti, evo, mazdaspeed3..that's not right because the camry is not made to be cheap and fast like those cars, it's actually way closer to the TL side than their side
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