JJH

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I bought my 2007 TL type-s back in February with 132k miles and since then have put ~1.5k miles on it. The MID reading back in February when I bought it was 80% and as of today it is at 30%. I have a couple questions:

-What is the torque spec for the drain plug? I know that Honda oil pans are notorious for getting stripped oil drain plug holes.

-Since my car is at such a high mileage, does it matter at this point what kind of oil I put in the car? I have Carfax for the car and the car has religiously had its oil change EVERY 3k miles since birth. I'm pretty happy about that.

-Any suggestions for oil type? I was looking ate getting Redline because I will be ordering Redline tranny fluid and would rather just get it shipped all together.

mY sLOW UA6

I'm pretty sure the touque spec is 31 or 28 ft/lbs. Ive always used mobil 1 with a mobil 1 filter and have never had any complaints.

SharksBreath

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why are you changing your oil at 1,500 mile intervals?

justnspace

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you can switch back and fourth between synthetic and dino.
you can even switch between different viscosities.

maharajamd

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At 130k, with dino it's entire life, I would NOT switch to synthetic. But that's just me...

JJH

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I have no idea what kind of oil or the filters condition was upon purchase. Color looks pretty good(as much of a story that that tells). Once I get synthetic oil I'll probably change at ~8k intervals.

Narrow it down for me

justnspace

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it really is no harm.

justnspace

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I use mobile 1 0w-40.

maharajamd

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JJH - I will casually disagree with justn. At that milage, with no track record of what oil has been used, I would just save the money and use exactly what Acura recommends. I would also stick to the standard maintenance schedule with that many miles.

Like he said, it likely won't make a difference and won't hurt anything switching. It's just not something I would do.

SharksBreath

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^maharajamd obviously hasn't lived a day in his life.

i use redline 5w-30 and a royal purple filter.

maharajamd

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My old H23 ran great for years until I switched to synthetic. I had it from 40k->90k before I did that. Two weeks later...multiple leaks. I've had the same thing happen to a friend with his Miata.

Fact is he isn't going to gain anything anyways. Lol.

That said I rock Mobil1 Syn, stock viscosity, Honda S2000 filter.

JJH

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This stuff, right?

SharksBreath

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^yeah but you can buy it in big red gallon jugs and save money. get a gallon and a quart.

JJH

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Anyone use Valvoline maxlife synthetic blend 5w-20?

LaCostaRacer

You'll be fine with any quality oil. For that mileage, if you want to hedge b/n dino and synthetic you might want to consider Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. It's very reasonably priced at Walmart and has had good reports at www.bobistheoilguy.com. I have used this on my other vehicle and use Mobile1 in my TL mostly. I like Purolator filters.

DMZ

I use NAPA's own brand of synthetic 5W-20 which is really Valvoline Synpower with their name on it and a NAPA 51334 oil filter (WIX with their name on it). I go by the MID for changes which are around 6,000 miles. I could probably go further, but you can never change the oil too often.
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RaviNJCLs

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I just use Mobil 1 5W20 from Walmart. I change when the MID is between 5-15%.

Crusher47

You guys tighten the bolts to torque spec? That's dedication right there

jrod08TLS

I use Mobil 1 5W-30 and a Honda filter. Never had any problems!

LoveMyTL-S

What I did was replace the drain bolt with a valve drain bolt, that way you don't have to take it off each time, risking stripping the bolt or ruining the oil pan.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ght=drain+bolt

Pat04TL

JJH,
yeah this (or just about any other syn blend) is what I run. To answer your original question, the drain plug torque spec is 29 ft-lbs. That's all the pressure needed to seat a new crush washer. Many on the forum reuse their crush washers and it works fine for them. For the minimal added expense, I change mine every time. If you reuse crush washers, you may need a little more force to tighten a drain plug with an already-crushed crush washer. Also FWIW, the (easy) MID oil life reset procedure is in the owner's manual.

tlorencz

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Please note that Honda and Acura use a "crush" washer on the oil plug that should be replaced everytime the oil is changed. This helps prevent the oil pan from stripping out. You can get these on line very cheap, ususally the shipping cost more than the 2 dozen you might want to get.

I change oil when MID indicates "Service is due now". I get about 7,500 miles between oil changes.

maharajamd

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^Said washer comes with the filter if you purchase Honda filters.

I hate cars

You can use any oil you want regardless of what's been used in the past.

I've never replaced the crush washer and I've performed every oil change at 5,000 miles and the car has 107,000 miles on it. Do the math. No strippage.

"Syn blend" is a gimmick to charge more money as are most "full synthetics"

If you want the "best", Redline 5w-30 and a RP filter though any SM oil and decent filter will be fine and the engine should outlast the rest of the car with any oil.

JJH

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I have a 2007 TL-s with a great history of oil changes. It has 135k miles on it now. I haven't changed the oil since I bought it in February and the MID is down to 30% so it will due for an oil change soon.

The Carfax shows the oil being changed EVERY 3k miles at the local Acura dealership but makes no note of what type of oil was used. I am assuming that the dealership used whatever they recommend and not synthetic.

I would like to get Redline full synthetic motor oil for my change, undecided on what filter to use though. I have read varying opinions (mostly dated as I found them through searching) and would like a more up to date opinion about making the switch from conventional to synthetic on a high mileage vehicle.

Anything wrong with this? Also, with my oil choice being Redline full synthetic, any filter recommendations?

Thanks

ggesq

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your threads have been merged.

look at post 24

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nj2pa2nc

When the oil life gets to 15% it will show a code of what service needs to be done. I suggest you wait. 3,000 mile oil changes are no longer necessary. I follow the maintenance minder on my tsx. Use either regular or semi-syn oil.

TLtrigirl

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JJH-go to mobil1's website to their FAQ's or any of the other synthetic oil websites and read over their FAQ's on switching to synthetic. it's actually quite informative. filter wise...RP like others have mentioned, mobil1 filters...OEM...

you've got about 1k mi or so until your MID codes for service. you have some time to research.

JJH

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I don't intend on changing the oil every 3k like the previous owner did.

Any reason you say to use regular or semi-synthetic vs using real 100% synthetic oil?

I took a look at that mobil1 site and it doesn't say anything about making the switch from conventional to synthetic after the cars engine already has 100k+ miles on it. This is my only concern since the engine may have had conventional oil used its whole life.

justnspace

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^it doesnt matter.
you can switch!

nj2pa2nc

Actually it should have said I use. I have all the service done by acura dealers. That is what they use. It seems to work. Over 100k miles.

nj2pa2nc

Google switching from regular oil to synthetic after 100k miles.

justnspace

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^our engines run clean.

MOST of the stuff you put in your engine is a mixture of synthetic anyway.

if you go full synthetic, there will be no harm....


Read post #24 ffs.

truonghthe

^^^Justin is right, I ask the Acura dealer and they confirm that the regular motor oil they use is a blend of synthetic and they also have Mobil 1 available for extra $$. I am actually using Valvoline full Synthetic in my TL-S with 61k miles right now and I haven't run into any issue. I don't know why people blame about switching oil instead of realizing once the car is pass 105k miles there will be leak whether you can see it or not. I also use Full Synthetic Mobil 1 in my 2g TL with only 55k miles on the clock and no problem even after I sold it. I understand that people look up google to understand more technical aspect when come to automotive but I have to say sometime you have to watch out what you read on the internet versus real life.

nj2pa2nc

The dealer I use told me they offer regular coventional oil, synblend or full synthetic. They use mobil.

splew

This.

Honda and Acura don't pull their oil viscosity requirements out of thin air. They designed the engine, they know what oil weight/viscosity works best. Use what they recommend.

J35A8

Damn, my 07 tl-s is only at 65k

JJH

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There was never an argument of what weight/viscosity to use.

JETSPD1477

Nahh... Viscosity doesn't dictate lubricating properties.

I hate cars

Wrong. There are other outside influences on oil viscosity recommendations than what's best for the engine. I don't feel like repeating the reasons why tonight. Let's just say the engine designers would not recommend what Acura officially recommends.