New Race w/ Money Sucker "MB E55 AMG"
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New Race w/ Money Sucker "MB E55 AMG"
Man! The 04 MB E55 AMG is FAST! My TL kicked butt that money sucker about a quarter car length on my first and 2nd gear . But, I got my butt kicked after I shifted my gear to 3rd. But, hey, my car is 1/3 price of that E55 AMG. So, who cares, right? Anyway, i am satisfied w/ my TL!
Here is the comparison:
2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Sport
MSRP $81,520.00* (Money Sucker!)
Engine AMG-built intercooled supercharged SOHC 5.4L 24-valve V-8 engine.
Net Power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
2004 Acura TL
MSRP $35,650.00
Aluminum Alloy 3.2-liter, 24-Valve, SOHC VTEC™V-6
Horsepower: 270 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
Here is the comparison:
2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Sport
MSRP $81,520.00* (Money Sucker!)
Engine AMG-built intercooled supercharged SOHC 5.4L 24-valve V-8 engine.
Net Power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
2004 Acura TL
MSRP $35,650.00
Aluminum Alloy 3.2-liter, 24-Valve, SOHC VTEC™V-6
Horsepower: 270 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
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Wow!! Enzo drivers beware!!
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Originally Posted by zima76
Man! The 04 MB E55 AMG is FAST! My TL kicked butt that money sucker about a quarter car length on my first and 2nd gear .
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
Now if you race a E320, that's a different story...
tru story
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
Not to bust on you, but I find it hard to believe your TL can roll up faster than the E55 AMG... especially the 2002+ models. Our TL TRQ is only 238 lb-ft and E55 is well equiped at 516 lb-ft. My cousin's gf drives a E55, and we've raced a few times a bit ago. Not to mention our HP is only 270 compared to their 469hp. Now, perhaps the driver in the E55 is an idiot or just let you go ahead of him first, our TL wil lose every time at the line.. either it's starting or top end.
Now if you race a E320, that's a different story...
tru story
Now if you race a E320, that's a different story...
tru story
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omg he was toying with you .... my friends arby has one htis kid is 19 and has owned an mb cl55 amg/ mb e55 amg / audi s4/ and hwen he had the e55 .. he toyed with evrything and bam it wasnt even close ... the e 55 amg is the fastest of the amg models and this is an amazing machine. but there is no way you could 0f even came close to him if you shifted on youre best day.
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I really like the MB E-Class...It looks sooo sweeeeeet...If I had the money, I would definitely purchase that car lol...It has the best of both worlds, power and class...
And ya, there is no way that the TL will even get close to the E55 AMG...you crazy!!!! lol
And ya, there is no way that the TL will even get close to the E55 AMG...you crazy!!!! lol
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You need to put the crack pipe down and step away, Pooky...
There is no way on God's green earth you could get an inch on the guy at all unless he was fast asleep at the wheel. My 86y/o grandmother could even hand your a$$ to you in that car...
There is no way on God's green earth you could get an inch on the guy at all unless he was fast asleep at the wheel. My 86y/o grandmother could even hand your a$$ to you in that car...
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Originally Posted by 2003TL-S
I have raced one of these before, and he was on it from the get go, there is no way you are even staying close to this guy if he was trying.
No doubt. Even those monstrous torque numbers trounces our horsepower ratings
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Originally Posted by 1nicetl
Agree with everyone!!! Even a stock E500 will mop us up.
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Originally Posted by J RIDE 81
Damn what does your cous girlfriend do for a living?
If I had my choice, I'd get S55, best car in class
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Originally Posted by 2003TL-S
On a clear day I could see the E55 AMG's tailpipe too, a quarter mile down the road after he beat the snot out of me.
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Yeah no way; it took my friend in his full bolt on LS-1 TA with a stall and on spray to stick by the back door of an E55 AMG from a dead stop.
Your guy just didn't want to waste his tires (or gas) ...
Your guy just didn't want to waste his tires (or gas) ...
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Originally Posted by zima76
Man! The 04 MB E55 AMG is FAST! My TL kicked butt that money sucker about a quarter car length on my first and 2nd gear . But, I got my butt kicked after I shifted my gear to 3rd. But, hey, my car is 1/3 price of that E55 AMG. So, who cares, right? Anyway, i am satisfied w/ my TL!
Here is the comparison:
2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Sport
MSRP $81,520.00* (Money Sucker!)
Engine AMG-built intercooled supercharged SOHC 5.4L 24-valve V-8 engine.
Net Power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
2004 Acura TL
MSRP $35,650.00
Aluminum Alloy 3.2-liter, 24-Valve, SOHC VTEC™V-6
Horsepower: 270 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
Here is the comparison:
2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Sport
MSRP $81,520.00* (Money Sucker!)
Engine AMG-built intercooled supercharged SOHC 5.4L 24-valve V-8 engine.
Net Power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net Torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
2004 Acura TL
MSRP $35,650.00
Aluminum Alloy 3.2-liter, 24-Valve, SOHC VTEC™V-6
Horsepower: 270 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 238 lbs-ft @ 5000 rpm
Originally Posted by PeterUbers
These threads are fricken stupid...... your TL is the best car in the world.
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
What is a money sucker? I think that is money well spent on a E55. Grow up child.
$80K on a vehicle is a waste of money and a very unnecessary expenditure. I don't care if you are Puff Daddy or Vince Neil or some shit.
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
$80K on a vehicle is a waste of money and a very unnecessary expenditure. I don't care if you are Puff Daddy or Vince Neil or some shit.
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
What is a money sucker? I think that is money well spent on a E55. Grow up child.
I lurk and rarely post b/c of all this childish nonsense. And if you go back (don't do it Peter) its all over. Pathetic.
I lurk and rarely post b/c of all this childish nonsense. And if you go back (don't do it Peter) its all over. Pathetic.
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If I could afford the E55... i would ditch this POS TL in a heartbeat! I love the '55 ... why work so hard in life if you can't enjoy the rewards of life sometimes... the '55 is one of those rewards for me.. .. so is a nice vaction, a beach front property ... lots of things...
Just b/c one person thinks $80k is a waste of money doesn't make him right by any stretch. That's just his opinion (I hate to be talking to people like we're fifth graders... but sometimes it's necessary) .. and I really don't care for it.
Just b/c one person thinks $80k is a waste of money doesn't make him right by any stretch. That's just his opinion (I hate to be talking to people like we're fifth graders... but sometimes it's necessary) .. and I really don't care for it.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
If I could afford the E55... i would ditch this POS TL in a heartbeat! I love the '55 ... why work so hard in life if you can't enjoy the rewards of life sometimes... the '55 is one of those rewards for me.. .. so is a nice vaction, a beach front property ... lots of things...
Just b/c one person thinks $80k is a waste of money doesn't make him right by any stretch. That's just his opinion (I hate to be talking to people like we're fifth graders... but sometimes it's necessary) .. and I really don't care for it.
Just b/c one person thinks $80k is a waste of money doesn't make him right by any stretch. That's just his opinion (I hate to be talking to people like we're fifth graders... but sometimes it's necessary) .. and I really don't care for it.
Originally Posted by apwalsh
$80K on a vehicle is a waste of money and a very unnecessary expenditure. I don't care if you are Puff Daddy or Vince Neil or some shit.
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If 80k is a waste, I hate to see what u think of 300k vehicles. You just sound like, whats the term, "a hater".
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
$80K on a vehicle is a waste of money and a very unnecessary expenditure. I don't care if you are Puff Daddy or Vince Neil or some shit.
Keep lurking
Keep lurking
Better yet:
That said, welcome to the world of car enthusiasts. Check the beancounting at the door.
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
It is a bunch of 5th graders. Acura has a huge image problem and these people with no clue are part of the problem.
How old R U? Well answer me this, an Accord is just as good as our cars. We get a couple extra bells and whistles. They are built right next to one another. So why didn't YOU get an Accord, since I guess we are wasting money, since the basic same car could be had for less?????
If 80k is a waste, I hate to see what u think of 300k vehicles. You just sound like, whats the term, "a hater".
How old R U? Well answer me this, an Accord is just as good as our cars. We get a couple extra bells and whistles. They are built right next to one another. So why didn't YOU get an Accord, since I guess we are wasting money, since the basic same car could be had for less?????
If 80k is a waste, I hate to see what u think of 300k vehicles. You just sound like, whats the term, "a hater".
We get more than a couple of extra bells and whistles, and a similarly equipped Accord will cost about 29K, for an extra 2K for what we get in return, it is worth it.
I feel the same way about a 300K car as I feel about an 80K car. A complete waste of money. I sound like a hater? Please explain that to me.
There is no way you can argue that 80K on a car is a waste of money. You can however, argue that you believe that it's ok to waste 80K on a car. I'm not trying to tell everyone what they should do with their money and most people will know that already. I really don't care what anyone else does with their money, I just have different views and better things to do with my money than waste it. I understand people wanting to have nice things because they worked hard for their money. I just don't always agree with their choices of "nice things."
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Originally Posted by F23A4
You sound like an Accountant. To MANY, a $35,000 Honda sedan is a 'waste of money' and a 'very unnecessary expediture'. If you want to focus on what's practical, get a Honda Civic.
Better yet:
That said, welcome to the world of car enthusiasts. Check the beancounting at the door.
Better yet:
That said, welcome to the world of car enthusiasts. Check the beancounting at the door.
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
What's pratical depends on your situation, and a Civic is just not practical for alot of people, but I hear what you are saying.
BTW, I rode that bike several times and it IS the Caddy of bicycles. (Caddy Deville anyway )
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have you guys seen how SICK the new 65's are ... and look at these #'s.. i mean why get a lambo, or ferrarri when you can have it all. luxury, inside room. damn...
SL65 AMG
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12 engine
Net Power 604 hp @ 5500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
CL65
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12
Net Power 604 hp @ 5,500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
wow.. how would it feel to have 740lb-ft or torque.. you think you ge whiplashed everytime you step on it?
But think about it. the lambo;s are about 250k to 300k. this guys are about 170k.
And something i didnt understand they are about 1/3 the price of the SLR McLaren $450,750.00.. for
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5,439-cc 36-valve 90°V-8.
Net Power 617 hp @ 6500 rpm
Net Torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 - 5,000 rpm
one day... dammit... one day........
SL65 AMG
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12 engine
Net Power 604 hp @ 5500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
CL65
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12
Net Power 604 hp @ 5,500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
wow.. how would it feel to have 740lb-ft or torque.. you think you ge whiplashed everytime you step on it?
But think about it. the lambo;s are about 250k to 300k. this guys are about 170k.
And something i didnt understand they are about 1/3 the price of the SLR McLaren $450,750.00.. for
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5,439-cc 36-valve 90°V-8.
Net Power 617 hp @ 6500 rpm
Net Torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 - 5,000 rpm
one day... dammit... one day........
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What does age have to do with anything? My age is right under my name.
We get more than a couple of extra bells and whistles, and a similarly equipped Accord will cost about 29K, for an extra 2K for what we get in return, it is worth it.
I feel the same way about a 300K car as I feel about an 80K car. A complete waste of money. I sound like a hater? Please explain that to me.
There is no way you can argue that 80K on a car is a waste of money. You can however, argue that you believe that it's ok to waste 80K on a car. I'm not trying to tell everyone what they should do with their money and most people will know that already. I really don't care what anyone else does with their money, I just have different views and better things to do with my money than waste it. I understand people wanting to have nice things because they worked hard for their money. I just don't always agree with their choices of "nice things."
We get more than a couple of extra bells and whistles, and a similarly equipped Accord will cost about 29K, for an extra 2K for what we get in return, it is worth it.
I feel the same way about a 300K car as I feel about an 80K car. A complete waste of money. I sound like a hater? Please explain that to me.
There is no way you can argue that 80K on a car is a waste of money. You can however, argue that you believe that it's ok to waste 80K on a car. I'm not trying to tell everyone what they should do with their money and most people will know that already. I really don't care what anyone else does with their money, I just have different views and better things to do with my money than waste it. I understand people wanting to have nice things because they worked hard for their money. I just don't always agree with their choices of "nice things."
That is why I asked how old are you. If your parents bought your car, I understand.
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Originally Posted by GunnmeTaLCURA04
have you guys seen how SICK the new 65's are ... and look at these #'s.. i mean why get a lambo, or ferrarri when you can have it all. luxury, inside room. damn...
also, it's just amazes me that the thread orignator said he had an head start on the E55, FYI, go to this link www.visionboy.com and click the COMPILATION 1 VIDEO, there is a clip of a TURBO-CHARGED IS300, that barely beats a stock E55
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Originally Posted by GunnmeTaLCURA04
have you guys seen how SICK the new 65's are ... and look at these #'s.. i mean why get a lambo, or ferrarri when you can have it all. luxury, inside room. damn...
SL65 AMG
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12 engine
Net Power 604 hp @ 5500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
CL65
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12
Net Power 604 hp @ 5,500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
wow.. how would it feel to have 740lb-ft or torque.. you think you ge whiplashed everytime you step on it?
But think about it. the lambo;s are about 250k to 300k. this guys are about 170k.
And something i didnt understand they are about 1/3 the price of the SLR McLaren $450,750.00.. for
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5,439-cc 36-valve 90°V-8.
Net Power 617 hp @ 6500 rpm
Net Torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 - 5,000 rpm
one day... dammit... one day........
SL65 AMG
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12 engine
Net Power 604 hp @ 5500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
CL65
Engine AMG-built twin-turbocharged 6.0L SOHC 36-valve V-12
Net Power 604 hp @ 5,500 rpm
Net Torque 738 lb-ft @ 2,000 - 4,000 rpm
wow.. how would it feel to have 740lb-ft or torque.. you think you ge whiplashed everytime you step on it?
But think about it. the lambo;s are about 250k to 300k. this guys are about 170k.
And something i didnt understand they are about 1/3 the price of the SLR McLaren $450,750.00.. for
Engine AMG-built supercharged 5,439-cc 36-valve 90°V-8.
Net Power 617 hp @ 6500 rpm
Net Torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 - 5,000 rpm
one day... dammit... one day........
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IMHO, age of a person does not have too much to do in this matter.
It's more of how you are, how you've always been living you life, and your priorities.
I, maybe able to buy a BMW 745 iL, if I reduce some of my (and my family's) life's luxuries; or I can just get a Civic and use the saving to get me a HDTV or Harley.
I bought the TL because I think for what I was getting out of the car (not just the car itself) and what I needed to pay, it's a no-brainer.
I used to hate the commute. Now I sometimes take the longer route to work, since I like te TL so much.
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It's more of how you are, how you've always been living you life, and your priorities.
I, maybe able to buy a BMW 745 iL, if I reduce some of my (and my family's) life's luxuries; or I can just get a Civic and use the saving to get me a HDTV or Harley.
I bought the TL because I think for what I was getting out of the car (not just the car itself) and what I needed to pay, it's a no-brainer.
I used to hate the commute. Now I sometimes take the longer route to work, since I like te TL so much.
My $0.02
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Why would you even mention a race with an E55. Those cars cost 80k and can run side by side with a Ferrari 360 on the drag strip. Lets not get carried away.
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Originally Posted by Tecworld
Why would you even mention a race with an E55. Those cars cost 80k and can run side by side with a Ferrari 360 on the drag strip. Lets not get carried away.
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Originally Posted by zima76
Simple!! I just want to compare the performance difference in between $80K car vs. $35K car. Yes, I wish I could win E55 AMG.
There is no comparison!
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
Well, if a 80k car is a waste, so is a 30k car. A corolla or civic makes perfect transportation. If you didn't want to TRULY waste money as you state, it makes no financial sense to buy a 35k TL when your 25. Dump that money into a home or invest it and watch the money grow. Most ANY car= poor investment.
That is why I asked how old are you. If your parents bought your car, I understand.
That is why I asked how old are you. If your parents bought your car, I understand.
You also do not know what my financial situation is to infer that it doesn't make financial sense for me to spend 30K on a car. What does it matter what age I am? It doesn't matter, plain and simple. I am lucky to have a good job, that I love, and I'm good at it. I have been dumping my money into investments since I was 15 and make 5.00/hr working at a deli. I value every dollar I have, because each one was paid for with my sweat.
I apologize for the rant, but I felt that young, dumb and full of cum shit coming from you.
Enjoy your E55, sir.
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its rediculous to say, "80k is waste of money for car even if you are puffy daddy." its all relative. an e55 to puff daddy is .000001% of his net worth, while an acura TL to you might be 10%, which is the greater waste of money.