AnothaTL

So my buddy called me up today and asked where I was at. I told him I was at work and he was like "I'll be there in fifteen!" So thirteen minutes later he pulled up in a brand new 07 G35s. Damn that is nice. Fit n finish is so much nicer than the previous model and the pipes out the back look straight off the coupe. I have a street behind our building that is kinda like a test track so we wanted to see what the car would do compared to mine. Now my 04 TL is auto and all I have done was put an AEM cold air in and some summer Yokohama's on for better grip. So knowing he still had to break the engine in the first couple trips he held back and I got him by half a car to about sixty. By the third trip he evidently got tired of seeing my taillights and opened it up. Damn that 07 G35s is fast. Moral to the story be careful with what you play with!

S1CK TypeS

do u know the specs on the 07? are we able to keep up with it? 3rd gen and 2nd gen type s

03bl AC k CL

aren't the 07's like 305 hp??

PPLAPW

Plus is he an Auto?

vsizzle

306 hp @ 6,800 rpm

268lb-ft @ 4,800 rm

Here is some info on the six speed from car and driver mag.

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...6mt-sedan.html

ILLustriousUA6

iTrader: (2)

wow, I can't believe he did that before breaking it in.... couldn't he jus wait???

EZZ

Yeah...kinda silly of him to open her up during the break in. Whats the point...the TL doesn't stand a chance against the new G. Thats why the TLS was made

AnothaTL

Yeah he thinks it is okay. Dumb ass, but hey it's his car he is messing up not mine! lolz

johnny--2k

break in is a sham. Did you know that Honda pulls one out of every x number of cars off the line, pulls the motor out, then runs it on an engine dyno for 45 minutes straight at redline, puts it back in the car, and sends it off to the dealerships?

They do it for testing etc to check for leaks and what not. From what I have heard, that is the best way to break in a motor, and that's the car you want to buy. 45 Min at redline and it still runs strong? That's one hell of a motor!

I have never broken in any of my cars, and not had any problems. The day I bought my S2000 i was at redline. It really is a crock if you ask me.

CUNextTuesday

07 G35 >>>>>>>>>>> Tl

JBlueCLS6

iTrader: (2)

it has been shown on numerous dynos cars that were beaten new compared to cars that were babied dyno higher (I can think of a 350z comparison in I believe was Import Tuner). Tell him to keep opening it up.

Rainbow Jimmies

Ill spank his ass with my Rainbow Jimmies

AnothaTL

I will then ask if I could do it myself to his car! lolz

juruki

iTrader: (2)

So how much did he pull on you?

AnothaTL

About one car length.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

HMm I really wonder how the new Type S will do against the new G35.

AcuraKidd

iTrader: (1)

i wonder the same...

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/acura/a...15933-pa2.html

The above link shows 0-60mph time for the 2007 TL Type S as 5.1 sec.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116681

This one says 0-60 for G35 is 5.6 sec.

But then I got these numbers from 2 different sources...so.......I am still waiting for a full comparison by C&D or MT.

EZZ

I saw C&D have it at 5.2 sec. I would think both cars would gravitate toward low 5s. The current G35 does it in 5.6 and the new one is DEFINITELY MUCH QUICKER. BTW, the trap was around 13.8 in the 1/4 so its about the speed of a well driven 350Z.

TheAcAvenger

I'm seriously with you johnny. I didnt break in my TL-S at all. I mean, maybe the first 10 miles... But after that it was "drive it like you stole it." 105k miles later, no problems other than the expected wear and tear.

Dave_B

5.1 0-60 in a FWD 286hp 3,700lb car? I think not. That "article" was purely estimating 0-60. The TL-S will be a 5.6 to 5.8 0-60 and 14.1-14.3@98-99mph car. Mark my word.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

5.2 for the TL S? or G35? or both? So the current G35 you are talking about is the 2006 model, with 298hp? The new one has 8 more hp and the weight is about the same right?

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Yea, 5.1 sec to me is too optimistic. And I think I will go with 14.1 for the 1/4 mile. The 5AT TL can do that in 14.6-14.8; the 6MT TL can do it in 14.3.

EZZ

The new G35 is about 5.2 in C&D. Also, the 298hp model was re-rated with the new SAE hp tests at about 293hp. So the new engine actually produces 13 more hp but seems the powerband is said to be better (80% new engine). I'd be a little surprised if the TLS is as fast as the new G.

sbuswell

the new G35 is 5.2-5.4 0-60 and high 13's stock. the new tl-s is 5.5-5.7 0-60 and low 14's stock. the new G35 is faster than the new tl-s. the new tl-s does not weigh 3700lbs though it is 3550lbs.

03_3.2_type-s

I guess the 3700lb was an estimate also . And i hope your talking about an auto, because a 6 speed tl-s will be well in the 13's

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Thanks guys, I never knew that the old G35 was rated with the old system. I believe the new engine is the VQ35HR with a 7500rpm redline? Now that engine is sweet.

OK, here's the stats for G35:
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...ecs-page4.html

so, weight is 3583lbs
0-60: 5.2
1/4 mile: 13.9@103mph

And I coudnt ginf an article about the TL Type S in C&D. All I have found is its weight, which is 3559lbs.

So, TL has 20 less hp, 12lbs.ft less torque, 24lbs less in weight.

But I also believe a FR car has more power loss when compared with a FF (correct me if I'm wrong). So I guess the G35 will do better from a standing still because it's a FR, but from a roll, I'm not too sure. Any ideas?

Wyman

Thanks for the facts on the G35S iforyou.
Has anyone seen factual data on the TL-S 0-60 times yet?
And the TL-S likely weighs in about 50lbs more than last year?

SergeyM

FWD should be beter than RWD going backwards. What is FF anyway?

Leo Type-S

word. stupid move.

TheAcAvenger

I've seen so many articles going against the whole Break-in theory. I'll admit to not breaking in my TL-S, really at all. 105k miles later, I havent had any issues other than with the tranny.

But on the topic of a TL-S running a 5.1, I really dont see any stock FWD car doing that. The HP and TQ arent even there to pull off such a feat. I can see a 5.4, but I really cant see a 5.1. Thats S4 territory. And a TL-S is not an S4

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

FF means "Front engine, front wheel drive."

the 2006 TL 6MT is 3483lbs (http://autos.yahoo.com/acura_tl_6_sp...s-specs/?p=ext)

2007 TLS 6MT is 3559lbs as stated before
http://autos.yahoo.com/acura_tl_type...K7KH49EF?p=ext

2007 TLS 5AT is 3674lbs
http://autos.yahoo.com/acura_tl_type...K7KJ49EF?p=ext

2007 TL 5AT is 3623lbs
http://autos.yahoo.com/acura_tl_5_sp...K7KE49EF?p=ext

so difference in weight between non-type S and type S models is around 50-70lbs, depending on the gearbox. Note that they dont make any 6MT TL in 2007.

I also notice that it's more of a deal to get a Type S here in Canada. A normal TL is $43-44k here. The Type S is $47-$48k. The difference is just around $3.5k, and the navigation system is already included. So basically, for $3.5k more, u get a navi system, better performance and handling, a body kit, larger rims/wheels, etc. But in the States, the difference is $4.5k, and that's in US currency!

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

I see what you are saying about TL-S running 5.1 sec from 0-60. I personally thing that's impossible too. So I'm still waiting for a more detailed test from C&D or MT.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

I see what you are saying about TL-S running 5.1 sec from 0-60. I personally thing that's impossible too. So I'm still waiting for a more detail test from C&D or MT.

juruki

iTrader: (2)

The 0-60 on the TL-S is 5.7. A lot of members here timed it and get consistent 5.7 on the AUTOMATIC.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

That's very good for a AT TL. Without the torque converter and with one more gear, I really wonder what the manual one would do.

Dave_B

"Timed" with what? A stop watch? A G-tech? 0-60 is pretty much meaningless and varies significantly due to traction and shift points. It's the 1/4 mile time which is important and I can guarentee you that nearly all the NA automatic 3rd gen TLs and 2nd gen TL-S' are not running sub 6 second 0-60 times seeing that most auto TLs (regardless of year) are stuck in the upper 14s/lower 15s. To pull a 5.6-5.8 0-60 means the car is running in the 14.0-14.3 range and that is a rarity for a TL regardless of year or tranny.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

I don't have too much problem accepting 0-60mph in 5.7 sec with the TL-S AT. The 2G TL-S according to C&D does it in 6.2 sec. The new one has better and wider tires (meaning more grip for better acceleration, and trust me, this means a big difference), more torque and hp, as well as other subtle changes. And like you've said, different factors might help too.

IMO both 0-60mph and 1/4mile are both important. But it's more of an opinion. I also think acceleration from a roll is important too.

2G TL (non type S) does 1/4mile in the lower 15 seconds range, but not the type S. Well, unless the driver isn't all that good.

Years ago, there's a C&D comparision between the CL-S (TL coupe version) 6MT vs BMW 330i MT coupe. according to them, the CLS did 0-60 in 5.9 sec. And fi I remember correctly, that was in the summer, meaning the engine wouldn't run as well for obvious reasons.

For sure 14 sec would be exaggerated for any stock TL or TL-S, but somewhere between 14.2-14.5, I think it's believable.

Klutch TLS

our cars are not race cars.... so who cares?

haha

and the 2007/2008 TLS 5AT is the fat kid in the TL(S) family haha!

i drove both the 5AT and the 6MT type-s. i had to get the 6MT TLS because the 5AT TLS was just ridiculously... slow as shit.

anx1300c

iTrader: (2)

Pointless thread revival FTL.