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First post here so I'll start with a simple hey. I just purchased a '04 WDP base a few months ago and have since spent my time lurking on these forums gathering as much information as I can.
I've done the 3x3 and pressure switches and a couple other things all from what I've learned here - it's been very helpful.
I've come across a set of Brembo calipers for sale that come with the caliper (freshly powder coated in white with black ACURA lettering), pads, rotors, brake lines, and the knuckle required for the caliper.
Aside from brake fluid is there anything else I would need for this swap? The price is somewhat within reach for me and while I have small plans for small mods to this car I want to keep it within reason (i.e. mods include tint, TEIN SA coils, XXR 530's, and this brake upgrade). I also want to ensure that the price for this brake swap won't exceed what the price for this 'kit' is.
If I'm missing anything for this swap please let me know!
PS - Yes I've searched and didn't really come up with much on this topic so I figured it was time to make a post.
PSS - Yes, this thread is worthless without pics but I'm at work so I'll post some when I get home.
I've searched this site many times using that method, sadly that was the ONLY thread that came up on the topic and for it being as old as it was it wasn't very indepth.
Glad to hear this is all I'll need though!
Originally Posted by polobunny
But then also why? Never had brake fade with the TL.
Looks is some part of it but I also came from a car with Brembos on it and would like to have them again if I can.
I'm able to have this entire kit for $600 shipped, all things considered I think it's a good deal. As the RL calipers route when I priced it out was more expensive than that.
Im in the process of doing the RL stuff myself. Should I be doing it? probably not as theres no real advantage or upgrade but when its done its gonna look
I'm aware of this, I have no expectations of turning the TL into a race car, I have a second vehicle for that.
Am I to assume that this swap kit is over priced and/or not worth the cost and effort?
If you're doing it for looks alone, spend the money you want on it.
If you're doing it for performance reason, skip this mod. Don't buy into the marketing.
I have absolutely no brake fade on the TL (no track) and if you can make your tires screech when braking then your brakes are doing their job just fine. Once you lose traction, it means your brakes are doing a better job than your tires are, and I have yet to see someone who has an issue with the TL brakes (who once again, doesn't track it).
If you're doing it for looks alone, spend the money you want on it.
If you're doing it for performance reason, skip this mod. Don't buy into the marketing.
I have absolutely no brake fade on the TL (no track) and if you can make your tires screech when braking then your brakes are doing their job just fine. Once you lose traction, it means your brakes are doing a better job than your tires are, and I have yet to see someone who has an issue with the TL brakes (who once again, doesn't track it).
It's a mix of both reasons, I'll have to give it some serious thought. I figured a simple pad/rotor/fluid change would allow me better braking than stock if I REALLY wanted it. But, maybe the want of Brembos will win out in the end, not sure.
Originally Posted by Oh Sickest TL
if thats for everything you need then yes thats not a bad deal. I think I paid 3 for just the calipers
Good to hear, just don't wanna get raked over the coals since I'm not quite up to speed on going rates for TL parts.
Hope you're aware of the aluminum-steel galvanic corrosion that plagues brembo calipers. Factory torque spec on Acura brembo bolts is 125 ft/lbs and with time and heat cycling you may want to buy a Time-Sert kit(#1415 M14 x 1.5) to have on hand. The best solution is to drill out and tap threaded steel sleeves(Time-Sert) so your steel caliper bolts will be contacting steel, not aluminum and reducing the chance of your bolts welding themselves to the aluminum threads in the caliper and ending up like this guy: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...d-pics-890815/
Hope you're aware of the aluminum-steel galvanic corrosion that plagues brembo calipers. Factory torque spec on Acura brembo bolts is 125 ft/lbs and with time and heat cycling you may want to buy a Time-Sert kit(#1415 M14 x 1.5) to have on hand. The best solution is to drill out and tap threaded steel sleeves(Time-Sert) so your steel caliper bolts will be contacting steel, not aluminum and reducing the chance of your bolts welding themselves to the aluminum threads in the caliper and ending up like this guy: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...d-pics-890815/
I am aware of the issue, wasn't aware that they made a Time-Sert kit for them. How hard is the Time-Sert install?
But then also why? Never had brake fade with the TL.
That because you drive a Base AT TL seriously this time, the TL brembo actually have some clamp power to them. I almost flew out my seat if wasn't for the seat belt hold me back when I tried a doing a hard braking.
As promised here's some pictures of the car. She's nothing pretty (yet) but it's a good base to start on. She's had her paint sealed and a few layers of wax tossed on along with removal of some nasty scratches around the door handles.
If you're doing it for looks alone, spend the money you want on it.
If you're doing it for performance reason, skip this mod. Don't buy into the marketing.
I have absolutely no brake fade on the TL (no track) and if you can make your tires screech when braking then your brakes are doing their job just fine. Once you lose traction, it means your brakes are doing a better job than your tires are, and I have yet to see someone who has an issue with the TL brakes (who once again, doesn't track it).
aside from brake fade, it sure DOES look good when driving.
also, the rotors and pads are alot bigger so i imagine they will last longer and dissapate heat better before warping. They last longer than regular calipers but if they do give you trouble, it's not so easy to replace/rebuild.
As promised here's some pictures of the car. She's nothing pretty (yet) but it's a good base to start on. She's had her paint sealed and a few layers of wax tossed on along with removal of some nasty scratches around the door handles.
Did someone destroy your paint with an orbital polisher? ouch
I am aware of the issue, wasn't aware that they made a Time-Sert kit for them. How hard is the Time-Sert install?
I did all 4 bolts on my front brembo calipers and taking my time it took about 3 hours from removal, installation of Time-Sert, re-assembly and bleeding brakes. The hardest part of the whole job is drilling the caliper hole straight. If you can trust yourself to do that, the job is relatively simple, otherwise it may be worth it to take the calipers to a shop and have them install the Time-Sert kit.
It is a huge relief not having to worry if your next brake job is going to strip out your brembo calipers and shit all over the rest of your weekend afternoon(learned the hard way).
