My Horrible 2007 TL TYPE S Runs at the track...
05-02-2007, 02:59 AM
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My Horrible 2007 TL TYPE S Runs at the track...
I have a 6MT 2007 TL TYPE S. My car is the 5373.
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-19" Volk Progressive ME
-Tein SS
-Kuhmo MX
I know next time I'm bringing 17" wheels. I was running with 25 PSI.
-On the 14.8 launch, (2000RPMS) I mashed the pedal and dumped the clutch, which led to a crappy 60'.
-My second run I lauch at 2000 RPMS again, but I give the car half throttle then I begin to floor it. I also missed 4th gear.
It was my first time at the track so I think I have the hang of things for next time and I expect to hit my 13.9
Mods:
-19" Volk Progressive ME
-Tein SS
-Kuhmo MX
I know next time I'm bringing 17" wheels. I was running with 25 PSI.
-On the 14.8 launch, (2000RPMS) I mashed the pedal and dumped the clutch, which led to a crappy 60'.
-My second run I lauch at 2000 RPMS again, but I give the car half throttle then I begin to floor it. I also missed 4th gear.
It was my first time at the track so I think I have the hang of things for next time and I expect to hit my 13.9
05-02-2007, 03:28 AM
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Nice runs. 19's will definitely do you no good at the track, and good driving can be worth even more time than that! 
High horsepower front wheel drive is really hard to master-
High horsepower front wheel drive is really hard to master-
05-02-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mr.almeida
I know next time I'm bringing 17" wheels.
05-02-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mr.almeida
I have a 6MT 2007 TL TYPE S. My car is the 5373.
Mods:
-19" Volk Progressive ME
-Tein SS
-Kuhmo MX
I know next time I'm bringing 17" wheels. I was running with 25 PSI.
-On the 14.8 launch, (2000RPMS) I mashed the pedal and dumped the clutch, which led to a crappy 60'.
-My second run I lauch at 2000 RPMS again, but I give the car half throttle then I begin to floor it. I also missed 4th gear.
It was my first time at the track so I think I have the hang of things for next time and I expect to hit my 13.9
Mods:
-19" Volk Progressive ME
-Tein SS
-Kuhmo MX
I know next time I'm bringing 17" wheels. I was running with 25 PSI.
-On the 14.8 launch, (2000RPMS) I mashed the pedal and dumped the clutch, which led to a crappy 60'.
-My second run I lauch at 2000 RPMS again, but I give the car half throttle then I begin to floor it. I also missed 4th gear.
It was my first time at the track so I think I have the hang of things for next time and I expect to hit my 13.9
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05-04-2007, 07:52 AM
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Which car was it that posted a 14.1 @ 112mph?
05-04-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Which car was it that posted a 14.1 @ 112mph?
05-04-2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mr.almeida
Here's the slips.
So, your runs were on heavier (I assumed 19s). That is probably good for about a .1 second and 1mph impact on ET/MPH vs the stock 17s.
Next, your 60' is pretty bad (as you already knew). If you continue to run street tires and use 17" rims, I think your realistic goal should be a 2.1 60'. Anything less than a 2.1 60 foot will be very hard to come by with the TLS FWD layout, peaky powerband, and a manual tranny. With slicks, then 1.7-1.8s are very possible assuming the tranny/axles can take it.
With lighter rims, a mid 2.1/low 2.2 60 foot, and similar conditions, I think you can realistically expect a low 14.2@99mph, maybe 100mph. If you go out when the temps are higher, the car will be slower (14.3-14.4s). Moroso is actually quite a fast track in the Fall when the temps are cool and the baro pressure is high. I think it would be very possible to see a 14.0@101mph is cool weather. A 13.9 is probably pushing it. With slicks and a 1.8 60 foot, 13.6-13.7 are entirely possible.
05-04-2007, 03:43 PM
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Hey guys thanks for all your feedback. The car that trapped the 112 mph was a M6 i don't know wtf he was doing. Dave B your information was very informative. I'll be at the track sometime this month again and try to hold it down for Acura!
05-05-2007, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
First off, conditions at Moroso- West Palm (sea level) were upper 70s, 66 degree dew point, and a 30.08 baro during your runs. The calculated density altitude was ~1,200'. That will suck out about .1 seconds and about 1mph. So basically, conditions weren't a huge influence on your run.
So, your runs were on heavier (I assumed 19s). That is probably good for about a .1 second and 1mph impact on ET/MPH vs the stock 17s.
Next, your 60' is pretty bad (as you already knew). If you continue to run street tires and use 17" rims, I think your realistic goal should be a 2.1 60'. Anything less than a 2.1 60 foot will be very hard to come by with the TLS FWD layout, peaky powerband, and a manual tranny. With slicks, then 1.7-1.8s are very possible assuming the tranny/axles can take it.
With lighter rims, a mid 2.1/low 2.2 60 foot, and similar conditions, I think you can realistically expect a low 14.2@99mph, maybe 100mph. If you go out when the temps are higher, the car will be slower (14.3-14.4s). Moroso is actually quite a fast track in the Fall when the temps are cool and the baro pressure is high. I think it would be very possible to see a 14.0@101mph is cool weather. A 13.9 is probably pushing it. With slicks and a 1.8 60 foot, 13.6-13.7 are entirely possible.
So, your runs were on heavier (I assumed 19s). That is probably good for about a .1 second and 1mph impact on ET/MPH vs the stock 17s.
Next, your 60' is pretty bad (as you already knew). If you continue to run street tires and use 17" rims, I think your realistic goal should be a 2.1 60'. Anything less than a 2.1 60 foot will be very hard to come by with the TLS FWD layout, peaky powerband, and a manual tranny. With slicks, then 1.7-1.8s are very possible assuming the tranny/axles can take it.
With lighter rims, a mid 2.1/low 2.2 60 foot, and similar conditions, I think you can realistically expect a low 14.2@99mph, maybe 100mph. If you go out when the temps are higher, the car will be slower (14.3-14.4s). Moroso is actually quite a fast track in the Fall when the temps are cool and the baro pressure is high. I think it would be very possible to see a 14.0@101mph is cool weather. A 13.9 is probably pushing it. With slicks and a 1.8 60 foot, 13.6-13.7 are entirely possible.
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I agree with most of the things you said. The only thing I would disagree with is if he was to run slicks. I doubt he would pull a 1.7 - 1.8 60 ft. but I definitely can see 1.9 - 2.0 60ft and that is assuming you learns to launch better. Besides that everything else is pretty much dead on it!
This is for the gentlemen who made this post. Do you know how to feather the clutch? Dumping the clutch is what is hurting 60 ft time. Learn to feather the clutch to control the tires from breaking traction. Good Luck next time!
05-05-2007, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by southern_info
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I agree with most of the things you said. The only thing I would disagree with is if he was to run slicks. I doubt he would pull a 1.7 - 1.8 60 ft. but I definitely can see 1.9 - 2.0 60ft and that is assuming you learns to launch better. Besides that everything else is pretty much dead on it!
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I agree with most of the things you said. The only thing I would disagree with is if he was to run slicks. I doubt he would pull a 1.7 - 1.8 60 ft. but I definitely can see 1.9 - 2.0 60ft and that is assuming you learns to launch better. Besides that everything else is pretty much dead on it!
If you want bragging rights and the quickest NA car, the cheapest way to go is with slicks, not power mods. If you're like me and have an auto, you're screwed because slicks won't help you because you can't launch at a high rpm.
05-08-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
First off, conditions at Moroso- West Palm (sea level) were upper 70s, 66 degree dew point, and a 30.08 baro during your runs. The calculated density altitude was ~1,200'. That will suck out about .1 seconds and about 1mph. So basically, conditions weren't a huge influence on your run.
So, your runs were on heavier (I assumed 19s). That is probably good for about a .1 second and 1mph impact on ET/MPH vs the stock 17s.
Next, your 60' is pretty bad (as you already knew). If you continue to run street tires and use 17" rims, I think your realistic goal should be a 2.1 60'. Anything less than a 2.1 60 foot will be very hard to come by with the TLS FWD layout, peaky powerband, and a manual tranny. With slicks, then 1.7-1.8s are very possible assuming the tranny/axles can take it.
With lighter rims, a mid 2.1/low 2.2 60 foot, and similar conditions, I think you can realistically expect a low 14.2@99mph, maybe 100mph. If you go out when the temps are higher, the car will be slower (14.3-14.4s). Moroso is actually quite a fast track in the Fall when the temps are cool and the baro pressure is high. I think it would be very possible to see a 14.0@101mph is cool weather. A 13.9 is probably pushing it. With slicks and a 1.8 60 foot, 13.6-13.7 are entirely possible.
So, your runs were on heavier (I assumed 19s). That is probably good for about a .1 second and 1mph impact on ET/MPH vs the stock 17s.
Next, your 60' is pretty bad (as you already knew). If you continue to run street tires and use 17" rims, I think your realistic goal should be a 2.1 60'. Anything less than a 2.1 60 foot will be very hard to come by with the TLS FWD layout, peaky powerband, and a manual tranny. With slicks, then 1.7-1.8s are very possible assuming the tranny/axles can take it.
With lighter rims, a mid 2.1/low 2.2 60 foot, and similar conditions, I think you can realistically expect a low 14.2@99mph, maybe 100mph. If you go out when the temps are higher, the car will be slower (14.3-14.4s). Moroso is actually quite a fast track in the Fall when the temps are cool and the baro pressure is high. I think it would be very possible to see a 14.0@101mph is cool weather. A 13.9 is probably pushing it. With slicks and a 1.8 60 foot, 13.6-13.7 are entirely possible.
If you stripped down the TL, could probably drop 150 or more lbs (I know that front seat is heavy, and the spare tire isn't that light...) That would help your 60' and possibly (with great traction) drop you to a 14 flat or maybe 13.9xx. I wouldn't be terribly surprised.
05-09-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
Another means of lowering your time is do some weight reduction before you go. When I had my 02 Maxima, I pulled the passenger seat, rear bench and seatbacks, emptied washer fluid, pulled jack, spare, tire wrenches, all the removable carpeting, and anything else I could think of. At the track, I folded in the side mirrors (minimal, but lots of little things add up). I managed a 14.1 @97.5 that day, about 4/10 faster than my previous best without all the weight reduction. Also pulled a 2.1xx 60' time that run, but still, the weight reduction absolutely helps.
If you stripped down the TL, could probably drop 150 or more lbs (I know that front seat is heavy, and the spare tire isn't that light...) That would help your 60' and possibly (with great traction) drop you to a 14 flat or maybe 13.9xx. I wouldn't be terribly surprised.
If you stripped down the TL, could probably drop 150 or more lbs (I know that front seat is heavy, and the spare tire isn't that light...) That would help your 60' and possibly (with great traction) drop you to a 14 flat or maybe 13.9xx. I wouldn't be terribly surprised.
05-13-2007, 08:16 PM
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05-13-2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Sure he can. There are quite a few 200 to 220whp 95-99 Maxima 5MT/6MT yanking 1.7 and 1.8 60 foots on 26" slicks. Granted the 95-99 Maximas are about 500lbs lighter than the TLS, the TLS has about 240-250whp (correct?) therefore the power to weight ratios are similiar and I think the TLS gearing may be a little deeper too. I won't lie though, it's abusive as hell on the car though because you need to launch at 5000-6000rpms with a near clutch dump. The Maxima's tranny can handle it, but I don't know about the TLS 6MT.
If you want bragging rights and the quickest NA car, the cheapest way to go is with slicks, not power mods. If you're like me and have an auto, you're screwed because slicks won't help you because you can't launch at a high rpm.
If you want bragging rights and the quickest NA car, the cheapest way to go is with slicks, not power mods. If you're like me and have an auto, you're screwed because slicks won't help you because you can't launch at a high rpm.
05-14-2007, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I thought 95-99 maxima has a 3.0L engine making 190hp and 4AT or 5MT only. Are you talking about a modded maxima? Anyways, yea, best way is to get better tires.
The 220whp 4th gen Maximas I'm talking about are ones with a different style intake manifold (off of the 00-01 Maxima) and headers.
05-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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Pretty impressive 4G Dave.
12-16-2007, 03:43 PM
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the TL is not a drag car.
if you just want to have time slips to brag about buy an EVO.
if you want a nice car that can put a smjile on your face, but is a great car for DAILY DRIVING, which you use yoru car fo r99% of the time, keep the TL.
if you want to have an ideal drag car, which you will do 1% or LESS of the time, but is a crappy ass rice burner that people will think you are a punk when htey see you in it, then get the EVO.
if you are rich get both.
if you just want to have time slips to brag about buy an EVO.
if you want a nice car that can put a smjile on your face, but is a great car for DAILY DRIVING, which you use yoru car fo r99% of the time, keep the TL.
if you want to have an ideal drag car, which you will do 1% or LESS of the time, but is a crappy ass rice burner that people will think you are a punk when htey see you in it, then get the EVO.
if you are rich get both.
12-16-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 23109VC
the TL is not a drag car.
if you just want to have time slips to brag about buy an EVO.
if you want a nice car that can put a smjile on your face, but is a great car for DAILY DRIVING, which you use yoru car fo r99% of the time, keep the TL.
if you want to have an ideal drag car, which you will do 1% or LESS of the time, but is a crappy ass rice burner that people will think you are a punk when htey see you in it, then get the EVO.
if you are rich get both.
if you just want to have time slips to brag about buy an EVO.
if you want a nice car that can put a smjile on your face, but is a great car for DAILY DRIVING, which you use yoru car fo r99% of the time, keep the TL.
if you want to have an ideal drag car, which you will do 1% or LESS of the time, but is a crappy ass rice burner that people will think you are a punk when htey see you in it, then get the EVO.
if you are rich get both.
12-16-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprtan-117
what the hell is power shifting? and how do i do this?
Originally Posted by groovyone789
the M6 only had a 14.1???? google is showing me high 12's for that. interestingly you kept it close haha. so i agree.... what was he doing haha
12-17-2007, 02:34 PM
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Just practice the driving and start off with normal air pressure. Lowering on regular radials usually hurts traction. 99mph will get you a 13.9 with practice. My first pass ever at a strip was a 16.3 which after 7 runs I turned into a 13.9 with no changes to the car. And one last thing, drive around the water box if you're on radials. The RWD cars will appreciate it. 
12-17-2007, 04:10 PM
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At least take out the spare and everything else in the trunk, and get to the track with 1/4 tank gas or less. Take off the engine cover and ice down the intake manifold before you run, and maybe consider the UR crank pulley and a CAI. Try again and let us know!
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How do you ice down the intake manifold??
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Originally Posted by P.R.E.A.M.
take a bag of ice and put it on it
Uhmmm, yeah, thanks, I kinda of get the *concept*. lol.
I guess what I wonder about is: Won't the bag melt?
I can't quite figure out how to do it if the bag is going to melt -
. Hep me!
03-04-2008, 04:43 PM
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The purpose would to be cool down the manifold, not get it frosty 
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