PeterUbers

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Ugh .. I used to out accelerate GTP's (stock) from a stop .. mid-roll, etc in my modded 'S. Now i'm getting smoked by them, all over again.

We took it up to 50 mph .. that GTP low-end torque is a killer ..

neuronbob

That's OK, PeterUbers...our car has barely less low-end torque than many of us would like. Just wait until there are headers, exhaust, chip, and supercharger for our car!

Xpditor

OK, I'm sheltered. What is a GTB? Please don't say Infiniti.

SergeyM

Do not underestimate GTPs. I ran agains one of them at the E-Town race track and it ran 13.9. These cars are very easy and cheap to mod.

SergeyM

Are you saying that 04TL is slower than 02TL-S?

Norse396

SergeyM,

He said his S was modded.

Chet03TL-S

A modded Type S is faster than a 04 TL. Once Comptech gets those I/H/E done it should change the field.

DTGonzalez

It's the Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Performance) only 240hp. I have a '01 and desperately trying to sell it (hint hint).... since I bought a new '04 TL. :banghead:

PeterUbers

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Guys -- there will be NO headers from Comptech or anyone else -- the stock headers are WELDED onto the engine block. Do not expect anything other than a possible supercharger .. and w/ the 11:1 compression ratio of the stock '04 TL .. don't hold your breath for a supercharger.

my 02 TL-S had intake/headers/exhaust/pulley ... was spinning around 300-310 at the crank .. pulley like CRAZY after 4000 rpms and had a nice bite low-end w/ the pulleys. I miss the power of that car..plus the engine was loud so you knew something was up when i jumped on it.

PeterUbers

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An intake ain't gunna do jack for the 2004 TL .. neither is an exhaust kit ... the car already has a high-flow intake (cold-air from the factory) and a high-flow exhaust system

gjm

Looking at the exhaust design on vtec.net I think there is some gains that can be made with an exhaust upgrade. I wouldn't expect miracles though. Making better low end torque is much harder than high end HP. You always get more HP making the engine breath better but it is a balancing act, usually a gain in HP causes a little loss or no change in low end torque.

Want more torque, push more air in, aka supercharge it. There just isn't much space left in the engine bay.

cM3go

so what, who's car looks better and will last longer, your TL