My car dropped almost $10,000 in value in 5 seconds
#41
Is anyone surprised that some one at the DMV office made a mistake? I am not.
One of my friends went to DMV about 3 month ago to renew his expired driver's license. After standing in line and handing over an application he noticed that person behind the counter became very nervous. Then DMV person went to the back and was talking to other DMV officials for a while and everyone start looking at him with some kind of suspicion. Turns out he was DEAD in a DMV system. He had to go do social security office to sort things out.
One of my friends went to DMV about 3 month ago to renew his expired driver's license. After standing in line and handing over an application he noticed that person behind the counter became very nervous. Then DMV person went to the back and was talking to other DMV officials for a while and everyone start looking at him with some kind of suspicion. Turns out he was DEAD in a DMV system. He had to go do social security office to sort things out.
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paperboy42190 (07-20-2012)
#42
Racer
If the car indeed had "water damage" that doesn't necessarily mean it took a swim in a river or something of that nature. I've seen a couple of cars that were totaled by the insurance companies due to "water damage" that didn't actually have anything wrong with them.
From what I understand, many insurance companies will total a vehicle if it gets flooded up to the wheel hubs. This is mostly to cover their own ass, because damage from that kind of flooding is unpredictable. The car could be completely fine in some scenarios, or major parts costing thousands of dollars could be ruined in others.
You might have gotten a "flooded" car that has nothing wrong with it. I would advise that you check your transmission fluid on the dipstick, as transmissions often get flooded, and the water is almost impossible to get out.. If it's relatively clear then that's good. If it's sort of milky/opaque, then that means that the trans has been flooded. I would also look under the body for obvious signs of rust or water-logging.
Either way, even if it is a good flooded car, the dealer definitely owes you some money back, as the salvage title kills resale.
Good luck.
From what I understand, many insurance companies will total a vehicle if it gets flooded up to the wheel hubs. This is mostly to cover their own ass, because damage from that kind of flooding is unpredictable. The car could be completely fine in some scenarios, or major parts costing thousands of dollars could be ruined in others.
You might have gotten a "flooded" car that has nothing wrong with it. I would advise that you check your transmission fluid on the dipstick, as transmissions often get flooded, and the water is almost impossible to get out.. If it's relatively clear then that's good. If it's sort of milky/opaque, then that means that the trans has been flooded. I would also look under the body for obvious signs of rust or water-logging.
Either way, even if it is a good flooded car, the dealer definitely owes you some money back, as the salvage title kills resale.
Good luck.
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justnspace (07-19-2012)
#45
Three Wheelin'
DO NOT SIGN over the title.
Why can't they just mail it to you. I would definitely inspect the carpet for any wet stains.
I'm just curious on your initial post that a previous owner encountered the same thing?
Why can't they just mail it to you. I would definitely inspect the carpet for any wet stains.
I'm just curious on your initial post that a previous owner encountered the same thing?
#46
Also, I called the DMV myself to double check, and they said that the rebuilt / water damage was only on the title issued on 07/02/2012, and all the previous titles were clean, meaning it was mistakenly applied, right?
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Sounds like it, yes
#48
07 tl-s in
Not a rebuilt but the dealer/dmv messed up my title...I bought my car new in 07 and when I finally paid it off, I got the title with a notarized revision stapled to the back. Hopefully all works out for you.
#49
Suzuka Master
glad the title turn out to be DMV fault.
#52
05 Acura TL: a-spec
What happens when you list this car for sale a few years down the road and one of those databases has your car listed as salvaged due to the DMV mix up? Or the next buyer goes to register it like you did and they receive a salvage title from the DMV? I don't know about you, but if someone tried to tell me "It's a DMV mix up, I swear, it's not a salvage title this happened when I bought the car too!"... I would demand my money back or refuse to buy the car depending on what stage of the sale it was discovered (if discovered). Just trying to think long term for you. If you can still return the car, it might be less of a headache than trying to sell it later on down the road. Plus if you can get your 19k back you could purchase a 07/08 type-s from a private party depending on your local private listings (might need 1-3k more depending on your area).
#53
Suzuka Master
There is no differences between 05-08 seat may be for extra cushion? or the newer 08 cushion didn't wear as much as 05-06. Type S receive extra stitching compare to base model.
#54
Burning Brakes
Glad to see you got it resolved. For future reference, and anyone else who seems to have an issue, i have found that the threat of being sued is just a joke to many dealerships. The real way to get them to step their game up is to contact the local news. Bad publicity for a dealership can run them out of business. I was scammed, twice. Once i paid cash for an older Infiniti and when i received the title it had a leinholder listed. Another time i was sold a car which the transmission blew the next day. They claimed it was a coincidence and that it wasnt the tranny but instead a line, which isnt covered by the ny lemon law. Well finally i got them to agree to have it fixed, took it to their shop, and it sat there for a whole month bc the dealership then refused to pay the mechanic. Whole big headache took monthssss with no resolve, until i told them i was calling the news so dress nice tomorrow when the cameras come in to put u on tv. It was paid in the 2 min following my exit LOL.
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Safety Car
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Safety Car
#58
Those 2007 seats are different than the ones pictured!!! I am not sure if Type S has different than regular TL.
Either way, I would 100% take that car back. They need to give you your $$$ back, plus some extra. If they give you any hassle, I would simply have a lawyer write a letter stating the facts... Bought the car as a perfect car, title stated rebuilt.
You can further your case if the car was CPO. They it was REALLY misrepresented.
Either way, I would 100% take that car back. They need to give you your $$$ back, plus some extra. If they give you any hassle, I would simply have a lawyer write a letter stating the facts... Bought the car as a perfect car, title stated rebuilt.
You can further your case if the car was CPO. They it was REALLY misrepresented.
#59
'07 TL Type-S
Clear the issue up with the seats before you sign the title.
#60
Suzuka Master
yes Type S front and rear seat received extra stitching vs base model on 07-08.
#61
Your S seats look different than mine 2008 regular TL. If it is in fact a DMV's fault then he doesn't have any legal ground to return his car. 1. Dealer sold good car 2. Buyer bought good car. 3. DMV made mistake. It is very easy to tell if the car has been painted or rebuild.
#63
e92 335i
brother let me clarify everything for you in this one post
on the bottom of your seat if it has 2 panels then its from an 04 model year car
on the bottom of your seat if it has 3 panels then you need not worry
type s is the only one with 4 panels for all you others out there
04 TL
05/06 + TL + 07/08 Base TL (with different headrest and bolster design)
07-08 Type-S
trust me i know this car
on the bottom of your seat if it has 2 panels then its from an 04 model year car
on the bottom of your seat if it has 3 panels then you need not worry
type s is the only one with 4 panels for all you others out there
04 TL
05/06 + TL + 07/08 Base TL (with different headrest and bolster design)
07-08 Type-S
trust me i know this car
Last edited by ladiesman217; 07-19-2012 at 11:41 PM.
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#64
Safety Car
there it is. So because the angle of his pic, you cant tell, so when Acura-OC said...........
he was correct.
Op, just confirm that there is or isn't, an extra stitch on the bottom of your seats. I really doubt the seats are from an '04.
Op, just confirm that there is or isn't, an extra stitch on the bottom of your seats. I really doubt the seats are from an '04.
Last edited by A SiQ TL; 07-19-2012 at 11:58 PM.
#65
There is an extra stitch. 3 panels lol
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#67
Not true, maybe your state or county has that law but there is no Federal law against selling salvage/rebuilt title cars. I have a friend that does this for a living. He discloses that they are rebuilt to the buyer however.
Last edited by kaza; 07-20-2012 at 07:09 AM. Reason: add more info
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Acura-OC (07-20-2012)
#69
'07 TL Type-S
That must be it because there are dealers around here who sell salvage cars too. Most don't, but a few do. But they obviously say beforehand that it is salvage.
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Acura-OC (07-20-2012)
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God damn it guys stop purposely looking for things to pick at, he alrdy has the right seats and the DMV made a mistake, stop being so skeptical about everything. How would you guys feel if you just bought a new car and instead of people welcoming you to the forum they keep finding bad things to say about the car. Based on what I read in this thread I honesty feel that the DMV made a mistake, so I mean so what? Doesn't mean he needs to return the car now. Car looks great, probably better than some of you guys here who are critiquing his car. People are probably just jealous his seats look to be in better condition than their seats. Most 04 seats are pretty worn out by now.
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#75
'07 TL Type-S
While I know people are just trying to help, he's decided to keep it. So just welcome him and let him enjoy it.
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