My 07 TL Is a Lemon
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My 07 TL Is a Lemon
Bad luck eh?
My windows sqeekkkkk, so i had them check it out, they put lubricate in them, worked for a day, than took it back, they ordered new regulator parts, replaced them, a week later, same sqeeks,.... so thats 3 times... = lemon
not to mention im having a tapping noise in the car, like something is loose, vibrations 2,
my fm/am SUCKS, its all static
my back 2 speakers blew for no reason
i sent in the lemon papers, i hear they might offer me a type-s so i keep the loan
My windows sqeekkkkk, so i had them check it out, they put lubricate in them, worked for a day, than took it back, they ordered new regulator parts, replaced them, a week later, same sqeeks,.... so thats 3 times... = lemon
not to mention im having a tapping noise in the car, like something is loose, vibrations 2,
my fm/am SUCKS, its all static
my back 2 speakers blew for no reason
i sent in the lemon papers, i hear they might offer me a type-s so i keep the loan
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sorry to hear about the troubles with your car. good luck in getting the Type-S
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i dont think your gonna win that lemon law....i truthfully think they will just laugh at you...maybe if you had something a bit more troublesome than a window squeek, and Honda is currently investigating the window concern, the dealer should have received a notice and shouldn't have even replaced the regulator. as of now there's no fix, until honda can pin point what the noise is....
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:every state differs on attempts, but it is a standard policy that it has to be an issue that affects the way the car runs, a good way to find this stuff is look into the powertrain warranty, thats what lemon law covers.
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Originally Posted by csmeance
:every state differs on attempts, but it is a standard policy that it has to be an issue that affects the way the car runs... .
Not quite - at least not here.
.... a defect or condition substantially impairs the value of the motor vehicle to the consumer ....
To the OP: Google "YourState Lemon Law", check the Lemon Law Warranty booklet that came with your car and Search AcuraZine for "Lemon Law".
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in defense of black07tl, i have the same issues on my '07 type s on an intermittent basis. my windows squeak, my fm reception is inadequate, and i get an occasional rattle which actually sounds like it is coming form the center of my steering wheel. i only have 1000 miles but when it goes in for it's first serice i will ask the dealer to address those issues. although these are not conditions which have diabled my car, they are annoying and borderline embarrassing for a new premium car brand. frankly, i did not expect this from acura.
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Gentleman- we do not treat new members this way- period. If you can offer some help to him then do so, otherwise move on.
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Gentleman- we do not treat new members this way- period. If you can offer some help to him then do so, otherwise move on.
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i will also retract my original post now that he edited the original post. the original post only said "Bad luck eh?"...and being a first post, well, he appeared to be asking for it. BUT, it apparently was a posting error.
back on topic...
if my windows were making bad sounds i would be very unhappy...i think it's a valid complaint. throw in the stereo problems and i'd be even more unhappy. i don't think a lemon law will apply (isn't it just for "driveability" issues related to the motor and such?). not sure, but i'd work with the dealer. perhaps they will come through with the TL-S swap for you. if i was you, i'd be happy with just an even-up exchange for another TL.
back on topic...
if my windows were making bad sounds i would be very unhappy...i think it's a valid complaint. throw in the stereo problems and i'd be even more unhappy. i don't think a lemon law will apply (isn't it just for "driveability" issues related to the motor and such?). not sure, but i'd work with the dealer. perhaps they will come through with the TL-S swap for you. if i was you, i'd be happy with just an even-up exchange for another TL.
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Gentleman- we do not treat new members this way- period. If you can offer some help to him then do so, otherwise move on.
I wouldn't mind getting a type-s with a TL loan ... hellya ...
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sorry to shoot off topic but....i didn't know people still listened to "FM"...lol..jk jk....but seriously...i hear better songs on XM then FM anyday....and no commercials...loving that....and if i get tired of XM...I just play MP3's and WMA's in the CD player...
#23
Hmm....it's pretty simple to find out the reason why a window would squeak. Sometimes it's the inner molding. If someone could help you take it out and try moving your windows up and down, it will determine if it's a mechanical defect. For the speakers blowing, what volume was your headunit set at? For the AM/FM static, check to see if the static is the same as you drive. That will determine if it's a mechanical issue or if it's just an area issue.
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I have a friend that went through the lemon law process in Illinois for a leaking sunroof panel on his '06 Scion tC. They tried to fix it like 6 times. It took about 6 months, a hundred phone calls and a ton of fighting to win. In the end, they bought his car back, but subtracted around $3800 for the 16K miles he had on the car.
That being said, I would be terribly surprised if they give you a more expensive car for your 'troubles'. (btw...my passenger window on my '05 TL had an intermittant squeek...that they could never fix.)
That being said, I would be terribly surprised if they give you a more expensive car for your 'troubles'. (btw...my passenger window on my '05 TL had an intermittant squeek...that they could never fix.)
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Originally Posted by paradigm
i will also retract my original post now that he edited the original post. the original post only said "Bad luck eh?"...and being a first post, well, he appeared to be asking for it. BUT, it apparently was a posting error.
back on topic...
if my windows were making bad sounds i would be very unhappy...i think it's a valid complaint. throw in the stereo problems and i'd be even more unhappy. i don't think a lemon law will apply (isn't it just for "driveability" issues related to the motor and such?). not sure, but i'd work with the dealer. perhaps they will come through with the TL-S swap for you. if i was you, i'd be happy with just an even-up exchange for another TL.
back on topic...
if my windows were making bad sounds i would be very unhappy...i think it's a valid complaint. throw in the stereo problems and i'd be even more unhappy. i don't think a lemon law will apply (isn't it just for "driveability" issues related to the motor and such?). not sure, but i'd work with the dealer. perhaps they will come through with the TL-S swap for you. if i was you, i'd be happy with just an even-up exchange for another TL.
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thanks for the replies, im in the state of FLORIDA, and i called in, they told me ANY PROBLEM on a NEW CAR, more than 3 TIMES serviced = a LEMON!!!
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
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Originally Posted by Black07TL
thanks for the replies, im in the state of FLORIDA, and i called in, they told me ANY PROBLEM on a NEW CAR, more than 3 TIMES serviced = a LEMON!!!
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
Also, if you do a search for lemon law you will find a few other threads that might be helpful
#28
ell it does happen
As anyone really knows, even with a quality manufacturer like acura sometimes bad things happen. My LF window on my 05 tl does make noise and it is the inner molding that for some reason makes noise. Which i was concerned about didnt want to ruin my tint. Anyway, lemon-law wont cover it, Acura might be trying to retain its good standards of service, that and as the earlier gen 3 owners will tell you the dealers have buy-back programs, and are particularly interested in 05-06 gen 3's. (obviously yours is newer) So offering you a new one is a save face probablity. For those that made fun of the situation. Shut-up. Stuff happens, and you dont have to be childish. As for the rest, i wouldnt trade my squeeky window on my Blue-pearl, 6sp-navi, comptech supercharged, lowered, swayed, cambered, short-shifted, 18inch, washed regularly screaming eagle of a bitch Acura. So leave the guy alone. Dude, hope you get the type-s, but, i wouldnt trade mine for it. Good Luck
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Originally Posted by Black07TL
thanks for the replies, im in the state of FLORIDA, and i called in, they told me ANY PROBLEM on a NEW CAR, more than 3 TIMES serviced = a LEMON!!!
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
I WAS WONDERING HAS ANYONE ELSE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH ACURA?
Try to keep all conversations professional and at a businesslike tone. Research exactly what your state Lemon Law says. You should be able to find it on the internet. It's likely will have to go through the Acura customer service representative who will be contacted by the dealer. I think the process involves arbitration prior to a decision being made. A replacement is usually a last step rather than 1-2-3 take it back. Hope this helps some.
FWIW - I doubt that you will ever find a perfect example of any individual automobile for the price you are able/willing to pay. I don't think that the construction process for mass produced items reaches perfect. If they thought they could build perfect, there would be an unconditional warranty.
#30
'07 TL Type-S 5A/T
Originally Posted by vrusso
in defense of black07tl, i have the same issues on my '07 type s on an intermittent basis. my windows squeak, my fm reception is inadequate, and i get an occasional rattle which actually sounds like it is coming form the center of my steering wheel. i only have 1000 miles but when it goes in for it's first serice i will ask the dealer to address those issues. although these are not conditions which have diabled my car, they are annoying and borderline embarrassing for a new premium car brand. frankly, i did not expect this from acura.
#31
Hey, if I just bought a new car for 30K+, I'd be unhappy if it had any defects...especially squeaks and rattles which really bother me. Fortunately, all of the cars I've bought have been pretty damm good. Give the guy a break...he came to this forum looking for advice, not nasty comments. I hope he gets his car fixed, but I doubt if Acura is going to give him a new Type-S for a squeaky window...they just aren't that generous.
#32
I had rattles in the front passenger and driver windows. The dealer fix the rattles on my last visit.
Here's what it said on my invoice:
Customer states there is a rattling sound from the top rear of corners of both front doors.
Found door panel or B-Pillar rattles, ticks, or buzzes - Replace the driver side and passenger side B-Pillar uppper, 84161-SEP-A02ZA garnish.
You can search the part number on AcuraOEMparts.com
Here's what it said on my invoice:
Customer states there is a rattling sound from the top rear of corners of both front doors.
Found door panel or B-Pillar rattles, ticks, or buzzes - Replace the driver side and passenger side B-Pillar uppper, 84161-SEP-A02ZA garnish.
You can search the part number on AcuraOEMparts.com
#33
Originally Posted by 05gen3nova
As anyone really knows, even with a quality manufacturer like acura sometimes bad things happen. My LF window on my 05 tl does make noise and it is the inner molding that for some reason makes noise. Which i was concerned about didnt want to ruin my tint. Anyway, lemon-law wont cover it, Acura might be trying to retain its good standards of service, that and as the earlier gen 3 owners will tell you the dealers have buy-back programs, and are particularly interested in 05-06 gen 3's. (obviously yours is newer) So offering you a new one is a save face probablity. For those that made fun of the situation. Shut-up. Stuff happens, and you dont have to be childish. As for the rest, i wouldnt trade my squeeky window on my Blue-pearl, 6sp-navi, comptech supercharged, lowered, swayed, cambered, short-shifted, 18inch, washed regularly screaming eagle of a bitch Acura. So leave the guy alone. Dude, hope you get the type-s, but, i wouldnt trade mine for it. Good Luck
#35
Originally Posted by JD TL-S
The Lemon law is for the same problem 4 times. Like a bad trans, or differential. Not a squeekie seat spring.
It's not just about 'important' mechanical items.
#36
Originally Posted by 04Enthusiast
I had rattles in the front passenger and driver windows. The dealer fix the rattles on my last visit.
Here's what it said on my invoice:
Customer states there is a rattling sound from the top rear of corners of both front doors.
Found door panel or B-Pillar rattles, ticks, or buzzes - Replace the driver side and passenger side B-Pillar uppper, 84161-SEP-A02ZA garnish.
You can search the part number on AcuraOEMparts.com
Here's what it said on my invoice:
Customer states there is a rattling sound from the top rear of corners of both front doors.
Found door panel or B-Pillar rattles, ticks, or buzzes - Replace the driver side and passenger side B-Pillar uppper, 84161-SEP-A02ZA garnish.
You can search the part number on AcuraOEMparts.com
#37
Originally Posted by SuperStar
Here's some bad news, I've had my windows 'fixed' 4 times by Acura. It keeps coming back.
wow... same thing..... i just got mine back.... SAME PROBLEMS NOTHING FIXED!!!
i sent in the lemon papers , you should do it 2!
i have vibrations all over
rattling
all that
#39
Window squeeks/rattles are very hard to track down and are a royal pain in the rear. Here is one lengthy thread that may help: https://acurazine.com/forums/acurazine-clubs-meets-15/belated-photos-la-meet-84527/
and here is my post in that thread that worked for me: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=85 . I was overjoyed when I fixed that squeek. I also fixed a very bad rattle in the center speaker (also documented over in the fixes area). I also have the classic 'drivetrain vibration' problem, and my dealer has told me it's not an issue; I'm pondering my next step on that one.
I think it's bad enough I had to spend upwards of 4 hours tracking down and fixing these problems in a brand new $35k car, and if I had your additional problems I'd be very upset.
Mods - can you guys not remove some of the negative posts rather than just chastising - eg, the "Come back when you have a real problem" post - no 'continuity' would be lost by deleting that thread entirely.
and here is my post in that thread that worked for me: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=85 . I was overjoyed when I fixed that squeek. I also fixed a very bad rattle in the center speaker (also documented over in the fixes area). I also have the classic 'drivetrain vibration' problem, and my dealer has told me it's not an issue; I'm pondering my next step on that one.
I think it's bad enough I had to spend upwards of 4 hours tracking down and fixing these problems in a brand new $35k car, and if I had your additional problems I'd be very upset.
Mods - can you guys not remove some of the negative posts rather than just chastising - eg, the "Come back when you have a real problem" post - no 'continuity' would be lost by deleting that thread entirely.
#40
I just got it back from the shop 3 days ago, no problems fixed, vibrations + rattles still intact, right window still sqeeking, they only replaced one speaker instead of both... by the way this is ORANGE PARK ACURA IN FLORIDA