izmyttz

thanks for the support. Yeah I never said that the kit you got looks bad at all. I actually like it. I was just pointing out that they have a real carbon fiber kit. Hell I know how it is. When I got my MOMO wheels I got the crap bashed out of them..then people started to actually like them. It's a community of support on here. That's what I aim to do. Support and provide info on products and help on problems. Sorry if you took what I said as bashing but I was just providing alternatives. Looks great!

izmyttz

just to make sure i contribute to this thread..here was the website that had the real and simulated carbon fiber kits for the TL..the 04-06 should be the same as the 07-08 interior..if i'm wrong someone please correct me with the reason why.

http://www.customautotrim.com/dashki...4-2005/dk1580/

IlovemyAcura

I hate the wood in my car

CF would look 1000000% better

Steven Bell

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This is the same diagram that came with my kit. I see the real carbon fiber is $367.41...Wow!

TrevorT

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From what I've seen and experienced a real carbon fiber overlay is pretty expensive and they are never "easy" to bend due to the resin being very hard.

Wish some of the people selling these kits these days were better informed and/or not liars!

Thanks for sharing the kit with us.

sensualscorpion15

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BEAR-AvHistory

Sorry you are unhappy Niel but if someone says something is real for $285 but real actually costs almost $100 more its important to let people know its a fake so they don't make an uninformed purchase. Especially when there are less expensive fakes available.

vinnier6

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hey steve, glad you like it, it does appear to be a little overkill for me, but thats what taste is all about....

it does indeed appear to be faux carbon fibre, and yes, real carbon fibre is not flexable at all, its very stiff...that would be abs plastic, with carbon look overlay....just like the oem stuff...which i dont mind, its not any different then the faux wood that most cars come with....

ndabunka

Ah, you DO realize that what you put on IS "fake" Carbon-Fiber pieces, right? REAL CF doesn't "bend" at all...

Steven Bell

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vinn, thanks for your input. I knew you might think it's alittle over the top. I actually sat in my car again and looked at the kit. To be honest, the pieces on the facing center console (where the Nav screen and the radio are) blend in, so much to the point where I don't see them that much. The one piece that might be overkill is above the glove compartment. I originally tried to install pieces that fit only over the fake carbon fiber that came in the car originally.

Ironically, I actually went back and read my own original posting. Guys, if you look at the title of the post and what I originally said, I did NOT say this was real carbon fiber. I simply said that this is much better than what was in the Type S originally. So if I led anyone in the wrong direction-I'm sorry my comments were misconstrued.

But a few people at the beginning of the post asked where I got the kit and how much it cost and I simply answered their question.

Again, sorry for the confusion. Actually, I was excited to show you the kit. Now.....

FiveLiterCheater

So you put more fake CF on top of fake CF

o4Komodo

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It's okay Steven Bell! I think it looks pretty good [minus some areas such as the side vents]. Some areas look pretty good in CF, though.
It's your own personal opinion, if you like it that's great! Some like it .. some don't, some are neutral.... it was bound to happen.
If your attitude is good about it then that's awesome, unlike someone in the past with the WDP.
On the bright side, atleast you didn't overkill it for real with CF everywhere imagineable such as---entire dash, armrest, door panels, roof, steering wheel... the plastic thing aruond the seats. See, now THAT would've been an issue!

ttribe

So? If the OP thinks it looks better, who cares if it's fake over fake.

Steven Bell

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THANK YOU TTRIBE !!!

Yes, I put fake stuff over fake stuff-it looks MUCH better than what you get with the car.....MUCH BETTER.

Kennedy

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Actually guys... You're both right... Or both wrong. Clearly you guys have never dealt in CF parts before.

What you have Steve is CF Overlay. It's one simple peice of CF that has been domed with an epoxy then cut with a special machine. That kit isn't worth more than $100 bought, and more than $20 to make (if you have the proper machine that makes these kits)...

What people here tend to confuse as fake vs real, is the implied cost of creating a CF PART. Creating a casting then layering CF/epoxy over and over again to build up a stong PART that would replace a stock piece costs... well a fortune to make. these are considered "real" parts. Clearly, you can't have real parts everywhere you installed them, unless you replaced the dash, so in many cases and overlay

Also recognize, the hatin is usually based on CF parts being installed to replace heavy parts. The performance implications of replacing parts with equally strong CF parts is raw weight savings. Installing a CF overlay with no implied performance is... well ricey in many's eyes. Fo other's it's apurely an aestetic styling que... as it was with Acura engineers, considering the OEM pieces.

You likely have real CF, but it's a real CF overlay. That shit on ebay is likely real CF, but is a simple cheap overlay too. They're likely sourced from the same manufacturer... I'd suspect mimousa.com.

I have a set of (mimousa) real CFoverlays on my a-pillars... They looks sharp. I think the stock interior CF, albeit fake, looks more real than the REAL CF overlays you installed... but that's my opinion.

Hope it's clear now. $285 was a lot of money for that kit, and there ain't no difference in those kits between 04 and 08.

FWIW... I went the extra mile to repalce my fake wood with the fake OEM CF.





The fake overlay kits are even cheaper in they don't use real CF as the underlayment. They use vinyl that looks like CF... which makes the end product even cheaper to make

Steven Bell

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Kennedy...You Rock sir !!! Thank you for everything you wrote and the pictures as well. I think you have the final word on everything in this post, which is great. I wish I had talked to you BEFORE I bought my kit-I could have saved alot of money.

Thanks again for everything. I really appreciate it.

izmyttz

great idea! looks hot. How much did it run you to do all the doors and the center console?

TLAdvanced

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[/QUOTE]
The fake overlay kits are even cheaper in they don't use real CF as the underlayment. They use vinyl that looks like CF... which makes the end product even cheaper to make[/QUOTE]
Kenedy I agree with this part of what you say. He has a fake overlay kit. "real" carbon fiber is a woven fabric. In the case of these overlay parts there are 2 options real "woven fabric" or fake "vinyl" coated in epoxy. I think what everyone is trying to say is that his dash kit is vinyl covered in epoxy. I'm not tryng to be rude or say it doesn't look good, just stating facts....

chillout24

I think I'd rather have fake wood than fake CF...at least when people see it they know what it's supposed to be, not shiny black plastic.

Flavour

lol. sorry for this to be my first post but i was thinking the same thing. and the sticker around the navi screen is awful.

the tl-s interior is great stock, some things just don't need to be messed with.

Clean>Rice

everyone is entitled to their own dude. dont offer a biting critique on someones car, it really hurts to hear people trash your car. if YOU like it stock, thats your opinion. you dont need to use 'awful' to describe someone's car. and this doesnt only apply to you, there are others attacking his car.

personally, i think that Steven Bell's new setup looks great, making his car more aggressive. i really appreciate how much effort he put into this mod and his willingness to help others on this forum. nice pictures were posted, along with prices and contact information. he did his research- give him the credit he deserves for all he has done.

now about the CF...it might not be real, but at least he took the initiative(along with others with CF now) to do something. Everyone else here is just bashing his car and his tastes. its a shame how some ppl on this forum lack maturity.

again, to Steven Bell, i personally think that the CF looks great, even though i wont do the mod myself. your car looks aggressive and if YOU LIKE IT, that is all that seriously matters. there will always be haters.

constructive criticism ppl...seriously. no rude diction plz.

blue.fired

Nothing, i would presume.

Seriously, somebody on the forum used the slot for a switch that cycled between video sources when paired with a Nav2go.
For the 04-06 the stalk is where the fog light switch is (US Spec, i remember reading the canadian market got DRL's from 04)

Very interested in the price and source as well, it really looks better than the carbon fiber on my car.

Kennedy

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ismttyz,
for all 4 doors trims, and the the two dsh cubby's, it was about $300 or so as I recall.

The fake overlay kits are even cheaper in they don't use real CF as the underlayment. They use vinyl that looks like CF... which makes the end product even cheaper to make[/QUOTE]
Kenedy I agree with this part of what you say. He has a fake overlay kit. "real" carbon fiber is a woven fabric. In the case of these overlay parts there are 2 options real "woven fabric" or fake "vinyl" coated in epoxy. I think what everyone is trying to say is that his dash kit is vinyl covered in epoxy. I'm not tryng to be rude or say it doesn't look good, just stating facts....[/QUOTE]

My a-pillar overlay kit is real CF that has been domed in epoxy. His looks the same as mine. I fail to see...

1) What difference it makes, they look nearly identical.

2) How you can tell from the pics he posted. If you look really close, you can see the mesh weave. Looks like real CF overlay to me.

vinnier6

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the key here being looks real....haveing dealt with real carbon fibre in many other applications, it doenst look like real cf, but again, either does the oem stuff....either way, i dont really care, i like the look, but its a little to much for my taste, but again tast is well, taste...like the shift knob, i liked it soo much i put the same one on my car, but some didnt like it...

Steven Bell

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For those of you who like the Interior Kit, you might consider purchasing a kit for your car, but not using all of the pieces. Originally, I put on ONLY the pieces where there was already fake carbon fiber in the TL. That looked really good and AGAIN, I personally feel like it's a HUGE upgrade from what comes standard in the car.

From there, I just layed other pieces that came with the kit onto the car without permenantly applying them-just to see how they looked. At that point, you can make your own judgement call.

As I originally said (which is also the name of this thread), the Interior Kit is a big upgrade to what comes on the car-in my opinion. You don't have to use all the pieces that come in the kit.

izmyttz

i don't see that..i see little silver blocks that are in rows

TLAdvanced

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x2!!
I'll post this again...
UA6Spec's carbon fiber interior...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...l+carbon+fiber

Clean>Rice

its the weaving dude.

Kennedy

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and again... the difference between a molded carbon fiber PART (as in what UA6spec made) versus a simple CF overlay. Two completely different animals.

sensualscorpion15

Clean Rice You Said It All And All That You Said Is Soooo True!!!!!!!!.....props To You For Being The First One On This Whole Thread To Make Any Sense!!!!!!..............if You Like It.......real Or Fake Doesnt Matter,and You Can Purchase It,if You Dont,then Go About Your Business,dont Buy It And Just Move On........no Need For Any Harsh Or Offensive Comments............anyone Can Bash Anyone Elses Car And Say,hey Mines Newer That Your Old Bomb.........now Would That Make Any Sense Or Get Anyone Anywhere????..............no .........so With That Lets Just All End It.................dead Issue...............

playa4real

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i prefer the stock stuff..what you have is just a little too much for me. but hey if you like it then

as for the ppl that are bashing him..come on now..there are plenty of uglier things ppl have done to their cars..

not your cup of tea? then dont do it

TLAdvanced

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I believe the only molded part is the 2 next to the shifter. The rest are overlays... Whatever, I think what I am referring to is NOT the point of them being molded or overlays. What I am saying almost sems as if it should be discussed in Ramblings. I am just saying as you did that there is a difference between real carbon fiber a (woven fabric) and fake carbon (a vinyl). It makes absolutely no difference for this discussion if it is a molded PART or an overlay. Real carbon fiber can be an overlay too.........

izmyttz

weaving my a**! maybe on the stock stuff..on the simulated carbon kit it's little painted silver checks...duh

Flavour

wow, sensitive bunch here. i hardly called his car awful, just the carbon fiber sticker around the navi. i thought someone named clean>rice would appreciate that

and actually, now that i read the first post again, he called what i have "fake crap" (irony anyone?), so please feel free to write the same thing to him

rockyfeller

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Anytime someone talks/puts pics up about these dash kits there is always this kind of polarized discussion.

I just have to say that that I believe there has to be a medium. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and free say. At the same time I think it is very easy to be really rude and insulting. Why can't people learn to compromise between the 2??? If you don't like something, sure you can say so, but there's a way to do it. Or you can say whatever you want, and trust me, nobody in life is going to like you very much.

My opinion is those who don't like dash kits at all must love Saabs. Those interiors are so plain and dead. I like accents in the car, keeps things alive and interesting. I think ua6spec's interior is great because of the shimmer of the real stuff. I would have kept the aluminum accents and not done the blue. I'd like to see someone try this. I would do it if I was more interested. I'm just fine with my car as-is. As for Steven's car I think it looks good overall though I would have used less pieces.

Now can we all talk like this children? Thank you.

ggesq

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OP has requested that this thread be closed.

Ron A

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