Is there any way to put a manual transmission into my 2008 3.2 TL

 

yes, ACCURATEin did it

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-photograph-gallery-96/04-5at-05-6mt-transformation-has-commenced-689508/

 

I'm pretty sure he had two WDP - one 5AT and one 6MT. He didn't swap his transmission.

As for the swap, you'd be the first I believe. IIRC the problem with the swap is having to reprogram the ECU; the swap itself is fairly straightforward.

 

Define straight forward.. LoL

 

Where there is a will there is a way..

But just trade it in for a manual is your best/easiest/most cost effective option..

 

Easier than programming the ECU to make it believe it came as a manual from the factory

The parts are more readily available, at least. With a skilled mechanic, it shouldn't be overly complicated. i.e. master cylinder, transmission, clutch pedal, clutch, clutch cables, flywheel, MT gauges.

Mind you, this isn't cheap. You're better off trading in your car unless if you really want to spend the money to keep your own.

 

trade in your car and get what you want (04-06 MT or Type -S MT). it's not worth it.

 

This is not a change you would want to consider. As most said, consider locating and buying a manual TL rather than try to go through this. There are so many things involved with this change, from installing new gauges and console to hanging the pedals to you name it. Not worth it.. find one you like and buy it.

But you can't have mine.. an '04 manual TL in pristine condition.

 

With all the trouble of it, why would someone even consider this???

 

where theres money, there is a way

 

sell it and get a what you want

 

I have to much work into my car to trade it in for another. ATLP J-pipe and exhuast AEM CAI, HR race springs, and soon sts turbo

 

turbo on a 3G TL? Do elaborate?

 

too much work? That is probably a days worth of work to take all those mods off your car. Even if you payed someone to transfer them to a a MT TL it would cost you less than it would to pay someone to put an MT in. Oh, and good luck with that turbo.

 

Haven't been on Azine for long but this comes up every month.. seriously.. why would anyone swap out an A/T for a M/T.. Take ggesq advice! We should post this as a sticky and name it <Don't Ask About Swapping a A/T with a M/T>

 

Well .. money he's got .. his next thread.. how to swap out 3.2 with 3.5 due to cracked manifold and blown head.. (.. giggity giggity ..)

 

No he did not. As mentioned he had a 5AT and went and bought a 6MT. Then he moved his mods from the old car to the new car.




No way it's be worth it. You'll lose less on a trade to an MT than you will spend in a transformation.


No offense, but the OP should've bought the car he wanted in the first place. Now if he goes MT, he's going to lose money.

 

 

Aren't the STS turbo kits the ones that mount in the rear of the car running fairly low boost?

 

We can't even put a turbo on our car. And with all the cots the transformation is gunna cost, i would just buy more upgrades, and make it faster then a 6m/t.

 

Sure.. let us knwo how that turbo comes along... LoL

 

How're those upgraded floormats working out for you? Faster than an MT yet?

 

to me, a stock 6 m/t would be more enjoyable than a slightly faster auto. Its just more envolving to drive and is a whole different experience than driving auto. I will never buy an auto unless forced to.

 

I said that 10 years ago. I'm no longer on that boat. Probably just pure laziness.

 

I have owned one automatic in my life as my personal driving machine. Unless I am somehow physically unable in the future to own a manual, I shall never purchase another automatic again. The only reason I bought the automatic (1983) was because I thought I was going to tow a boat with it. As it turned out, we wound up towing with my wife's car.

 

Eric and I swapped his nav from his auto to his 6 speed. In doing so we needed to tap into some wires on the harness because the harness in the two cars are different.....backup light, vss, etc...You would need an electrical harness as well. No way would I attempt this even if the car was givin to me.


TL/GTX- a six speed is a lot quicker than an auto even with it's mods....it's been proven here many times. The TL-S auto on the other hand is a different story....but we are talking about base models here.

 

How does a base TL 6 spd compare to the Auto Type-s?

 

^ someone said that they are "almost" the same but I dont know I have never driven the type-s.

 

yea they pretty much are the same the type s has an earlier torque point than the 3.2 in stick but the power feels the same to me....i drove the type s when it was new. a friend of mine bought it and then drove mine....he was surprised that they felt the same as well...

 

This reminds me of the other smart alecks who thought they were being cunning by not spending the extra $$$$ for navigation that wound up banging their heads into the wall afterwards wishing they had.

Lesson learned here: GET WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO BEGIN WITH!

 

Ballpark figure would be maybe $10,000+lots of headaches. I agree... just trade the car in for something else!

 

You most def. can put a turbo on this car. No need for a turbo manifold on an STS turbo. With a 3.2 I could easily spin a GT45R and push around 18 psi with a waste gate spring upgrade. Can you say SLEEPER

 

hell, you could bolt 14 turbos onto the car in various places, the problem is tuning and fuel delivery. Unless you eliminate all the electronics in the car and run a standalone custom ECM, you can't tune the TL well enough.

 

You can put in the transmission if you want to spend loads of $$$. Many things differ from the automatics to the manuals, suspension geometry and parts differ, electrical harnesses and maybe structural parts of the car differ too. Since you have an 08 base, the car is softened up and not as stiff as the 04-06 and further away from the type-S. Expect to spend more than 10K with labor and all the stuff. It's easier to get into a TL with 6sp.

 

Sure you can, all you need is a Greddy E-Manage Blue and some dyno time.

 

If it was this easy, blackacuraTL-S (WDP type s) would havd done it, or stillhere would have...

 

What is stopping them? What makes it so hard to tune the TL?

A lot of issues with newer cars is the DBW, which is easily modded back to a cable system.

 

i'm pretty sure that was...his point? haha

 

LOL I see what you're saying. He seemed like he was serious though so I misread it

 

They're pretty close from a standing start. A base 6MT will generally trap 1 or 2 mph higher, so from a roll, most of the time, it'll pull the 5AT Type-S slightly. We're assuming a pretty skilled manual driver here.