Manual Transmission
01-12-2009, 04:30 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
I'm pretty sure he had two WDP - one 5AT and one 6MT. He didn't swap his transmission.
As for the swap, you'd be the first I believe. IIRC the problem with the swap is having to reprogram the ECU; the swap itself is fairly straightforward.
As for the swap, you'd be the first I believe. IIRC the problem with the swap is having to reprogram the ECU; the swap itself is fairly straightforward.
01-12-2009, 05:27 AM
#6
Burning Brakes
Easier than programming the ECU to make it believe it came as a manual from the factory 
The parts are more readily available, at least. With a skilled mechanic, it shouldn't be overly complicated. i.e. master cylinder, transmission, clutch pedal, clutch, clutch cables, flywheel, MT gauges.
Mind you, this isn't cheap. You're better off trading in your car unless if you really want to spend the money to keep your own.
The parts are more readily available, at least. With a skilled mechanic, it shouldn't be overly complicated. i.e. master cylinder, transmission, clutch pedal, clutch, clutch cables, flywheel, MT gauges.
Mind you, this isn't cheap. You're better off trading in your car unless if you really want to spend the money to keep your own.
01-12-2009, 06:53 AM
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trade in your car and get what you want (04-06 MT or Type -S MT). it's not worth it.
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01-12-2009, 07:16 AM
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This is not a change you would want to consider. As most said, consider locating and buying a manual TL rather than try to go through this. There are so many things involved with this change, from installing new gauges and console to hanging the pedals to you name it. Not worth it.. find one you like and buy it.
But you can't have mine.. an '04 manual TL in pristine condition.
But you can't have mine.. an '04 manual TL in pristine condition.
01-12-2009, 12:15 PM
#14
too much work? That is probably a days worth of work to take all those mods off your car. Even if you payed someone to transfer them to a a MT TL it would cost you less than it would to pay someone to put an MT in. Oh, and good luck with that turbo.
01-12-2009, 12:25 PM
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Haven't been on Azine for long but this comes up every month.. seriously.. why would anyone swap out an A/T for a M/T.. Take ggesq advice! We should post this as a sticky and name it <Don't Ask About Swapping a A/T with a M/T>
01-12-2009, 12:28 PM
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Well .. money he's got .. his next thread.. how to swap out 3.2 with 3.5 due to cracked manifold and blown head.. (.. giggity giggity ..)
01-12-2009, 12:36 PM
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No way it's be worth it. You'll lose less on a trade to an MT than you will spend in a transformation.
No offense, but the OP should've bought the car he wanted in the first place. Now if he goes MT, he's going to lose money.
01-12-2009, 03:32 PM
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01-12-2009, 03:37 PM
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to me, a stock 6 m/t would be more enjoyable than a slightly faster auto. Its just more envolving to drive and is a whole different experience than driving auto. I will never buy an auto unless forced to.
01-12-2009, 06:31 PM
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I have owned one automatic in my life as my personal driving machine. Unless I am somehow physically unable in the future to own a manual, I shall never purchase another automatic again. The only reason I bought the automatic (1983) was because I thought I was going to tow a boat with it. As it turned out, we wound up towing with my wife's car.
01-12-2009, 06:42 PM
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Eric and I swapped his nav from his auto to his 6 speed. In doing so we needed to tap into some wires on the harness because the harness in the two cars are different.....backup light, vss, etc...You would need an electrical harness as well. No way would I attempt this even if the car was givin to me.
TL/GTX- a six speed is a lot quicker than an auto even with it's mods....it's been proven here many times. The TL-S auto on the other hand is a different story....but we are talking about base models here.
TL/GTX- a six speed is a lot quicker than an auto even with it's mods....it's been proven here many times. The TL-S auto on the other hand is a different story....but we are talking about base models here.
01-13-2009, 07:57 AM
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yea they pretty much are the same the type s has an earlier torque point than the 3.2 in stick but the power feels the same to me....i drove the type s when it was new. a friend of mine bought it and then drove mine....he was surprised that they felt the same as well...
01-13-2009, 08:34 AM
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Lesson learned here: GET WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO BEGIN WITH!
01-13-2009, 08:41 PM
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You most def. can put a turbo on this car. No need for a turbo manifold on an STS turbo. With a 3.2 I could easily spin a GT45R and push around 18 psi with a waste gate spring upgrade. Can you say SLEEPER
01-13-2009, 08:50 PM
#33
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hell, you could bolt 14 turbos onto the car in various places, the problem is tuning and fuel delivery. Unless you eliminate all the electronics in the car and run a standalone custom ECM, you can't tune the TL well enough.
01-13-2009, 08:53 PM
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You can put in the transmission if you want to spend loads of $$$. Many things differ from the automatics to the manuals, suspension geometry and parts differ, electrical harnesses and maybe structural parts of the car differ too. Since you have an 08 base, the car is softened up and not as stiff as the 04-06 and further away from the type-S. Expect to spend more than 10K with labor and all the stuff. It's easier to get into a TL with 6sp.
01-13-2009, 09:17 PM
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You can put in the transmission if you want to spend loads of $$$. Many things differ from the automatics to the manuals, suspension geometry and parts differ, electrical harnesses and maybe structural parts of the car differ too. Since you have an 08 base, the car is softened up and not as stiff as the 04-06 and further away from the type-S. Expect to spend more than 10K with labor and all the stuff. It's easier to get into a TL with 6sp.
Sure you can, all you need is a Greddy E-Manage Blue and some dyno time.
01-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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01-13-2009, 11:51 PM
#38
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i'm pretty sure that was...his point? haha
01-13-2009, 11:56 PM
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