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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Low in the snow.

Twill be my first winter driving a lowered car (~2.5") and driving a manual car. It's difficult enough in the summer avoiding pot holes, road obstructions, curbs, etc. Do you guys that live in snowy climates dread driving in the winter?
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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raise that motherfucker up! lol
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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raise that motherfucker up! lol
That's too much work! Maybe if I was on coils.

I realllllllly need to have an exhaust shop adjust the exhaust flange where it meets the catback. That's my lowest point. I could see some big problems with that in the winter.

The LSD should be a big help this winter!
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Quality winter tires will make the biggest difference. Also if there's any snow on the ground I usually launch in 2nd gear or you'll just be spinning tires. Being low won't make too much of a difference but just be careful of what's on the roads, you don't want to hit ice, snow bank or winter road debris and rip off your front bumper! (happened to me)
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Get a truck for the winter. That was my solution. Or at least an all around beater (old civic or something).
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nttstt444
Get a truck for the winter. That was my solution. Or at least an all around beater (old civic or something).
Better yet get a Honda CR-V 5MT 4WD and raise it! Would make a sick winter vehicle.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Yeah I would have gotten something along the lines of a subaru or something but I ultimately got the truck to plow with and I put the tl up for the winter. Iv since sold it tho.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I drove an Accord that was lowered a fair bit for several years, and this area can get quite a bit of snow. The first two years I raised it up for winter, but eventually I gave up, left the lip on and drove it at the same height year round. The last year I lowered it more and it wasn't a problem, but I don't see any winter pics from then. This was on 'high performance' summer tires that were typically balding by winter, and replaced in summer. If the snow was deep enough, it would rub on the underbody, especially in the rear, and cause the rear to be really loose. Usually not a big deal. However, USUALLY the streets get cleared fairly quickly so the typical inch or two is totally fine. I drove it daily, typically 50-80 miles.

That said, my TL is a bit more picky in the snow. The LSD makes things a bit complicated unless you want to go straight. The manual isn't a big problem, except I have stalled the vehicle once or twice with the pedal to the floor. Apparently the traction can be a bit aggressive under some conditions. Usually it works great and I leave it on. If you stop on an incline with a manual, turn it off.





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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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I <3 snow. Farmers Almanac is predicting a long, cold winter with very heavy snowfall. So the LSD actually hurts you in the winter? I figured it would help.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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The button I turn off when there is snow...I learned that quick last winter
The 6 speed your better off with, than an auto. You can control the gear/rpm's easier- obvi
The lowering may screw you up in the deep stuff
Tires are your best friend though. Perhaps consider a winter wheel set up. Much cheaper than another car/insurance.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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I had worn down blizzaks on my 5AT 07 TL-s and it was great. I'm thinking that next winter I will get a fully dedicated winter set up.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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^^ I had those once too for my 6spd maxima. Awesome tires
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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I was going to get coils than hurriicane sandy happend, so im forever scared of going low.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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I dread driving in snow, period.

The Farmer's Almanac says it's going to be an early Winter too........
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Howcome it doesn't snow here?! Over here we're lucky if it rains. Also when it does rain everyone gets all scared because they aren't used to driving in anything but sunny dry weather
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Your fears will disappear if you invest (yes i said invest) in ANY SNOW TIRES. The difference in start / stopping is night and day.

That is my .02cents x a million.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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oh, didnt know you were on springs
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
Your fears will disappear if you invest (yes i said invest) in ANY SNOW TIRES. The difference in start / stopping is night and day.

That is my .02cents x a million.
Couldnt agree more. Snow tires make all the difference. Im lowered and have never had an issue in the snow.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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Get blizzaks. I'll try to find some pics but I used to drive my slammed SRT-4 with 511whp in the snow all the time. It's all about tires and not being stupid. Just be cautious that's all
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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What springs drop 2.5"? lol
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Undying Dreams
What springs drop 2.5"? lol
seriously thought he was on coils.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
Your fears will disappear if you invest (yes i said invest) in ANY SNOW TIRES. The difference in start / stopping is night and day.

That is my .02cents x a million.
Knowing how to drive in the snow also helps. Have to write my late husband was great at it even without snow tires. Ice is not a good thing. We lived in the Pocono mountains for 11 years.

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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Knowing how to drive in the snow also helps. Have to write my late husband was great at it even without snow tires. Ice is not a good thing. We lived in the Pocono mountains for 11 years.
Fine I will bite, was your late husband driving an Acura TL?
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
Your fears will disappear if you invest (yes i said invest) in ANY SNOW TIRES. The difference in start / stopping is night and day.

That is my .02cents x a million.
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Couldnt agree more. Snow tires make all the difference. Im lowered and have never had an issue in the snow.
Originally Posted by 06nhtsx
Get blizzaks. I'll try to find some pics but I used to drive my slammed SRT-4 with 511whp in the snow all the time. It's all about tires and not being stupid. Just be cautious that's all
I'm really considering getting another set of Blizzak WS-60s. They were great, confidence inspiring tires in the winter.

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oh, didnt know you were on springs
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What springs drop 2.5"? lol
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seriously thought he was on coils.
I'm on HR Sport Springs for a base TL, Koni Yellow Shocks on the lowest perch, and 255/40 tires. Between the combination of the three, I'm dropped about 2.5".
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Should keep both tl one for the summer and the other for winter beater.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Fine I will bite, was your late husband driving an Acura TL?
No but over the years, numerous fwd, fwd, awd, 4wd vehicles. Some of them were volvos, Mazda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, list goes on
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
No but over the years, numerous fwd, fwd, awd, 4wd vehicles. Some of them were volvos, Mazda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, list goes on
For what it's worth I drove a Ford Taurus (FWD/96 year flavor) for many years and drove in many winters.. Never needed snow tires in any of them and I had 100% confidence on the road. In the TL+winter - it was a serious turd..

My point is winter driving and the type of car used plays a significant roll in terms of handling and confidence.

My current winter tires are cooper weathermaster st/2's (if you Google for it you will see my 2videos in real life testing scenarios)

I'm on HR Sport Springs for a base TL, Koni Yellow Shocks on the lowest perch, and 255/40 tires. Between the combination of the three, I'm dropped about 2.5".
Make sure you get 225/235's if and when you buy snow tires. Less rubber contact to the road is king!
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
For what it's worth I drove a Ford Taurus (FWD/96 year flavor) for many years and drove in many winters.. Never needed snow tires in any of them and I had 100% confidence on the road. In the TL+winter - it was a serious turd..

My point is winter driving and the type of car used plays a significant roll in terms of handling and confidence.

My current winter tires are cooper weathermaster st/2's (if you Google for it you will see my 2videos in real life testing scenarios)



Make sure you get 225/235's if and when you buy snow tires. Less rubber contact to the road is king!
yeah, I will likely be going with 235s so I still have some rim protection. I was looking at the Nokian Hakkapeliitta although they may be overkill.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Check Craigslist, but bring your guns and friends with guns! I've seen sets going for 200bux on a consistent basis.. You want to look for the people who just sold their car's and need to get rid of their 2nd set of tires.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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I just bought a brand new set of blizzak ws70's 235/45/17's off craigslist. They have 11/32nds tread left so basically new 12/32nds is new. I payed $300 for them, if you sort through the crazies there will be some good deals on there.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lusid
For what it's worth I drove a Ford Taurus (FWD/96 year flavor) for many years and drove in many winters.. Never needed snow tires in any of them and I had 100% confidence on the road. In the TL+winter - it was a serious turd..

My point is winter driving and the type of car used plays a significant roll in terms of handling and confidence.

My current winter tires are cooper weathermaster st/2's (if you Google for it you will see my 2videos in real life testing scenarios)



Make sure you get 225/235's if and when you buy snow tires. Less rubber contact to the road is king!
In my numerous travels in the snow, the majority of accidents are SUVs. Just because you own one does not make it accident proof when it snows. Slow down, there always can be icy spots or black ice
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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I used to plow snow in my accord and civic, they were pretty much never raised up for winter and without winter tires. My TL last year was only raised up to where there was no wheel gap, no traction whatsoever without the winter tires, did fine plowing through snow with a good set of winter tires after though, only had 2 front only too and got them for $80 off Craigslist. Also as long as your alignment is good, you should be fine.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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Just buy proper snow tires. Done.

You're going to push some snow. It's inevitable when lowered.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Unless you're slammed you'll do fine on normal snowy roads. Just don't be a hero and try to drive unplowed roads.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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I considered winter wheels and tires for my 07 6mt Type S, but I just ended up buying a $5,000 dollar grand cherokee overland. Thing is super comfy, tons if power from the 4.7 HO engine, and has a surprising amount of luxury options. I almost can't wait to try it out in the snow. The TL will get to stay all cozy indoors.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
I dread driving in snow, period.

The Farmer's Almanac says it's going to be an early Winter too........
Hell, you're telling me. It SNOWED last Thursday here where I'm at. And that's saying something, since it snows here nonstop November 1st through May.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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I'm hoping for a winter wonderland, I love the snow. Driving in it isn't so much fun unless you've got a fun vehicle for it.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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I was kinda hoping ebelp would have chimed in this thread since hes so low and in upstate NY lol.

We don't get much snow here so I've never had a problem. But I dread driving my car in the snow if its 1" or 10."
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