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Old 05-17-2008, 09:52 PM
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Looks like I'm "converted" again...

It's been a great ride! I enjoyed the TL-S very much, but the constant need for more power, and a truly "fun" car to drive, drove me to trade my TL in yesterday...

The dealer offered me a great trade-in price, and I couldn't resist any longer...

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That's sure to be one fast car. Any reason you didn't go with an Evo X MR? Just curious. And congradulations on the new car.

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Old 05-17-2008, 10:33 PM
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nice choice! it's a very fun and fast car to drive!
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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Number of reasons...

STI is much faster stock, as much as a half-second to 60 and even more in the quarter mile...

The modding capabilities of the new STI's is ridiculous! Chip alone, gives it 50hp/70tq... with exhaust and intake added, car can be tuned to 380hp/400tq on pump gas (flywheel).

Mitsubishi is NOT known for their reliability... everybody I know that's had one, has been a piece of crap, with all kinds of stuff falling apart. That, and the interior is just WAY cheaper, and offers less driving features like the STI does...

The STI tranny's are bulletproof! Good for 500+whp easily... they're just nearly impossible to break.

That, and I had a WRX for 5 years, that was modded like crazy, and I really just miss my Subaru, and the exhaust note that can't be beat!
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STi FTW! It's got serious power, but I don't like the new body though... previous gen is much more sexier and aggressive. :tounge:
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Number of reasons...

STI is much faster stock, as much as a half-second to 60 and even more in the quarter mile...

The modding capabilities of the new STI's is ridiculous! Chip alone, gives it 50hp/70tq... with exhaust and intake added, car can be tuned to 380hp/400tq on pump gas (flywheel).

Mitsubishi is NOT known for their reliability... everybody I know that's had one, has been a piece of crap, with all kinds of stuff falling apart. That, and the interior is just WAY cheaper, and offers less driving features like the STI does...

The STI tranny's are bulletproof! Good for 500+whp easily... they're just nearly impossible to break.

That, and I had a WRX for 5 years, that was modded like crazy, and I really just miss my Subaru, and the exhaust note that can't be beat!
Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. Glad you enjoy the car. I almost got a legacy spec b but I ended up with my TL.

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Old 05-17-2008, 11:14 PM
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Sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. Glad you enjoy the car. I almost got a legacy spec b but I ended up with my TL.

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I suppose I'm just not completely ready to grow up yet! lol

I'm really digging the hatchback now, after having it just one day! I already used it for Costco today. lol
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i wish i could get a STI. Nice choice.. post more pictures please.
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I saw one in a video and it was doing a 4 wheel drift/slide around a turn on a dirt road. It was pretty sick.

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Old 05-17-2008, 11:27 PM
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Old 05-18-2008, 02:32 AM
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I'll get some pics soon.... My camera battery is dead...
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Nice car but the new body style is kind of imo
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i dunno you guys don't like the new body style... I think it is damn sexy... although slightly heavier they added the weight in the right places...

automasteramr.com has one they've been doing little things too... and from the youtube vidoes... looks like nothing but goodness
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:41 AM
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it's a great car!!! as you said, the aftermarket is huge. 600-800whp easy.

I need to check out automasteramr to see what they are doing.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:03 PM
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i dunno you guys don't like the new body style... I think it is damn sexy... although slightly heavier they added the weight in the right places...

automasteramr.com has one they've been doing little things too... and from the youtube vidoes... looks like nothing but goodness
The '07 was 3351 lbs curb....

The '08 is 3395 lbs, but with the BBS wheel options, it loses 7lbs per wheel... so,

The '08 with BBS is 3367 lbs... a difference of only 16 lbs!

The plus side, is the increased handling (slalom speed much higher) yet a more comfortable smooth ride, the better braking, the new DCCD controls, and WAAAYYYY more room on the inside.

Compared to the '07, the '08 rides SOOO much nicer, as I'm sure you've seen if you read any reviews. How they got better handing, while making the ride smoother, I have no idea.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:38 PM
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Those are AWSOME cars. A buddy of mine had his engine completely rebuilt from the ground up and makes over 500WHP on 110octane racing fuel. They replaced the turbo with a larger one, chipped, turned, etc. He let me drive it last time I was in Orlando. Zero to sixty in about 3.8seconds and something like a high 10 or low 11 second quarter. Of course, he spent almost as much rebuilding the engine as he did on the car itself but to him it's worth it.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:06 PM
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Isn't the new STI a Hatchback?

What an ugly looking car... No wonder you only posted a picture of the STI Logo. I sure wouldn't be caught dead driving a Hatchback...
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Subaru's are tin cans with oversized rice-boy engines. POS, IMO.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:11 PM
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Everybody is entitled to their opinion but to dahvaio and 2008 TL : He just got the car and it might be better if you dont help with his Buyers remorse (If he has any).

Anyway, i heard there are tons of suspension and throttle settings to fiddle with in the car,
Somewhere near 75 combinations of settings that can be configured !!
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:22 AM
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Sometimes I wish I got the Sti instead of the TL.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:42 AM
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Great choice. The new STi's look much better than the old ones (it's growing up ), and the hatch is much more useful than most Americans want to admit. Good luck with the new car!
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:24 AM
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Convert it to S205.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:29 AM
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Great car, almost bought one myself a year ago. My dad is an engineer at the Subaru plant in Lafayette, IN and gets a pretty good discount. Might be the next car I get!
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:37 PM
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Took the STI to costco... the hatchback RULES... lol

No buyers remorse whatsoever... in fact, the wife and I just went for a 3 hour drive this morning, on some mountain roads near my house and we both had an AWESOME time, and even my wife said, "I really like your car a lot more, now"...

She was upset at first, because the TL was "pretty" and she liked it... but now she realizes how much more fun we can have together taking long drives like we did today... it was really fun.

Plus, it's just cool getting the "thumbs up" from people, and I like how all the fellow Suby owners are really cool, and wave, and want to talk to you... never got ANY of that, with the Acura crowd.

Looks is all opinion... but there's NO disputing the performance, and ridiculous amount of fun the STI offers, that the TL will never be able to even come close to achieving...
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:43 PM
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congrats...any plans for the STi?

post some REAL pics too haha
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:10 PM
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without reading any of the previous posts aside from the op...you got a hatchback?...which is fine...jw haha
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:47 PM
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All the STI's are hatchbacks now...

Plans?

The dealer I purchased from will warranty up to a Stage 2 set-up (chip/exhaust) which will put the STI at 380hp/400tq...

I'll be happy there!
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:50 PM
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More pics please!!! I love STI's
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:49 AM
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I don't have any more of MINE yet (will tomorrow) but here's one of the same color/wheels that I bought...





Anybody who doesn't find that front profile mean as hell... has issues!
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:37 AM
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Very nice car! New STi hatch is sooo much sexier than the previous Gen STi sedans. The hatch provides better performance compared to the sedan too
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:55 AM
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sexy, makes me want to get my weekend car now
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Hmmm front is sexy...but I don't dig the hatchback style kind of car. I don't really find a hatchback to be sexy or sporty looking. A big change from a TL loaded with luxury to the STI. To me that is a huge drop. But it looks like you are looking for speed. And your the one who drives the car and if you like it, then that's all it matters. Enjoy it either way!!
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what deal did u get for the sti?
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the new STI look has grown on me. not as agressive or eye-catching as the 2004-2005 model, but attractive nonetheless.

although, try some awd launches and let us know how bulletproof your STI tranny is then. my buddy launched his in a movie theater parking lot (probably his 5th or 6th time?) and totally demolished his tranny. hello 5k repair bill.

up until the EVO IX, i would have taken an EVO hands down, but the EVO X looks horribly stupid.
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Originally Posted by sol_da_man
the new STI look has grown on me. not as agressive or eye-catching as the 2004-2005 model, but attractive nonetheless.

although, try some awd launches and let us know how bulletproof your STI tranny is then. my buddy launched his in a movie theater parking lot (probably his 5th or 6th time?) and totally demolished his tranny. hello 5k repair bill.

up until the EVO IX, i would have taken an EVO hands down, but the EVO X looks horribly stupid.
I've probably done about 10-12 HARD launches already... 200 miles on the clock... lol

One thing the STI is known for, are their bullet-proof tranny's... your buddy either did something REALLY strange with his DCCD settings, or it was a fluke... they're amazing set-ups.

I've had subies for years, and you sorta have to know what you're doing and not just rev to red-line and side-step the clutch over and over...
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Hmmm front is sexy...but I don't dig the hatchback style kind of car. I don't really find a hatchback to be sexy or sporty looking. A big change from a TL loaded with luxury to the STI. To me that is a huge drop. But it looks like you are looking for speed. And your the one who drives the car and if you like it, then that's all it matters. Enjoy it either way!!
Well, the nav-unit I've getting will be much better than the TL had... so all my bluetooth, nav, siruis, traffic stuff will be far superior... plus, it will have ipod integration, back-up camera, etc, etc...

The ONLY difference, is the driving experience, and the quiet/comfort compared to the TL. The new STI is leaps and bounds better than previous models, though... in noise AND comfort.

I really liked the TL's interior as a whole... all the leather and dash surfaces were VERY nice! Definitely not as nice in the STI, but again... it's not a luxury car.
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Originally Posted by kosstick
what deal did u get for the sti?
Sticker was $38,5xx with BBS/Fog package, ipod, and some other goodies...

Negotiated to $37,050! Pretty good, considering the limited numbers and amount they're selling!
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So theres NOTHING that you miss about the TL?
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i guess it's a trade-off & the OP made his choice ... now whether all of us agree with him or not, that's another thread ....

Good luck with your new ride & I've to say those HP are maddening .... LOL
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Congrats on the STI. Stop by from time to time but at this point this is turning into an off topic discussion.
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