Is it just me, or....
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Is it just me, or....
Guys,
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
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I am verily over 5000 all the time.. I hit redline often. That's cuz I get so sick of these yobo's down here who do 10mph down these long ass onramps, and I wail past them trying to merge into traffic. Then when you get behind them when 5 people are driving side by side by side down the interstate and you finally get a little space and just do a 5th to 3rd and gnaw on their asses and disappear into the horizon.
They wouldn't have put vtec up there if they didn't want us to use it.
They wouldn't have put vtec up there if they didn't want us to use it.
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Its imperative that i have my daily dose of VTEC.
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anything below 4000, and you will never really know your cars potential.... it has been designed and built to be driven at elevated levels... redline is there to tell you when you go to far... i go above 4k anytime i feel like it... my previous car (2000 contour svt) loved anything above 4000, as it was a dog below.
#11
Uhm... I call it inertia.
Once I am going 60 mph, it doesn't take as much oomph to get to 80 as it would if I were doing 20.
Hence the low RPM when you are at cruising speed.
Once I am going 60 mph, it doesn't take as much oomph to get to 80 as it would if I were doing 20.
Hence the low RPM when you are at cruising speed.
#12
normal commute to work i have kept it below 3500 to save gas. but letting the engine spin past 4K is where the motor's power is. so when i am not on my commute i let it loose and rev the bad boy a little more.
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On the automatic, it is difficult to get the revs up unless you put it into manual shift mode...
That is why the 0-60 on an automatic feels good... but the 40-60 sucks if you are used to a manual... The car is constantly in the upshift... You gotta pound the pedal to tell the auto to downshift...and then, once you lift your foot, it ends up upshifting again anyway...
For spirited driving (assuming the original thread starter has an automatic), shift into manu-matic...
That is why the 0-60 on an automatic feels good... but the 40-60 sucks if you are used to a manual... The car is constantly in the upshift... You gotta pound the pedal to tell the auto to downshift...and then, once you lift your foot, it ends up upshifting again anyway...
For spirited driving (assuming the original thread starter has an automatic), shift into manu-matic...
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Originally Posted by badboy
Guys,
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
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Its not that I can't get to high rpms, its just that there is no need for it. I guess what I mean to say is that I am satisfied with the oomph I get when staying under 3500 rpms. I wanted to see what the majority does, and it looks like we have a lot of people going in high rpms, which is fine I do it at times as well. I do have the 5AT.
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Originally Posted by MikeekiM
On the automatic, it is difficult to get the revs up unless you put it into manual shift mode...
That is why the 0-60 on an automatic feels good... but the 40-60 sucks if you are used to a manual... The car is constantly in the upshift... You gotta pound the pedal to tell the auto to downshift...and then, once you lift your foot, it ends up upshifting again anyway...
For spirited driving (assuming the original thread starter has an automatic), shift into manu-matic...
That is why the 0-60 on an automatic feels good... but the 40-60 sucks if you are used to a manual... The car is constantly in the upshift... You gotta pound the pedal to tell the auto to downshift...and then, once you lift your foot, it ends up upshifting again anyway...
For spirited driving (assuming the original thread starter has an automatic), shift into manu-matic...
it slams it into the lowest safe/acceptable gear, and that puppy just takes off. once its in that gear, i toss it back to D and just let it go on its own. who am i to tell the higly advanced computer when to upshift.
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Originally Posted by rets
You prolly drive 5AT. Without the big foot, your TL will always keep your RPM low and upshift gears as early as possible in regular driving basis. Try SS mode?
"Planned" VTEC use is much better in SS
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I wouldn't say I never go above 4k, but it's pretty rare. Mine's a 5AT so it just does its own thing. I find no reason to beat on my cars any more. The TL is a family car. If it was an S2K or the like it would spend most of the day in the 6-8k range.
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The main road out of my housing area is 55 and then quickly 65 so I have to punch it to get into traffic and frequently go over 4k in 2nd , 3rd and 4th while doing it.
Our engines warm up quickly. I have to drive about 1/2 mile to the 4 lane road and then I sit there for less than a minute to wait for a clearing in traffic and already the engine is warm by the time I'm in second and on the way to work.
Our engines warm up quickly. I have to drive about 1/2 mile to the 4 lane road and then I sit there for less than a minute to wait for a clearing in traffic and already the engine is warm by the time I'm in second and on the way to work.
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The main road out of my housing area is 55 and then quickly 65 so I have to punch it to get into traffic and frequently go over 4k in 2nd , 3rd and 4th while doing it.
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Originally Posted by MyJohnson
The main road out of my housing area is 55 and then quickly 65 so I have to punch it to get into traffic and frequently go over 4k in 2nd , 3rd and 4th while doing it.
Our engines warm up quickly. I have to drive about 1/2 mile to the 4 lane road and then I sit there for less than a minute to wait for a clearing in traffic and already the engine is warm by the time I'm in second and on the way to work.
Our engines warm up quickly. I have to drive about 1/2 mile to the 4 lane road and then I sit there for less than a minute to wait for a clearing in traffic and already the engine is warm by the time I'm in second and on the way to work.
In a half a mile, and less than a minute waiting, it is not much warmer and thinner than when you started.
I had an Alfa with an oil temp gage and after 15 miles on the autobahn in winter the oil temp needle was just starting to lift off the peg.
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Originally Posted by Ron A
Your engine may be warm, but your oil is still cold (cold=thick). Takes a lot longer for oil to warm up to operating temperatures than it does for water.
In a half a mile, and less than a minute waiting, it is not much warmer and thinner than when you started.
I had an Alfa with an oil temp gage and after 15 miles on the autobahn in winter the oil temp needle was just starting to lift off the peg.
In a half a mile, and less than a minute waiting, it is not much warmer and thinner than when you started.
I had an Alfa with an oil temp gage and after 15 miles on the autobahn in winter the oil temp needle was just starting to lift off the peg.
my 81 280zx had both a oil pressure gauge (actual #'s!!!!!) as well as an oil temp gauge... on many occations the peg on the temp gauge didnt move on short trips, even if the car was left idling for a bit (my car at idle didnt produce much heat). it wasnt until i got running for a bit, 10-15 min, that the temp started to register.
also i could tell it was cold by looking at the psi gauge for the oil. the oil pressure sender was very close to the pump (it told what the pump was doing). on cold start up the oil psi jumped to about 50-60 psi and stayed there at idle. as it warmed up the pressure dropped to about 25-30 at idle. the oil was so thick (20w-50 mobil 1) when cold, that it didnt flow through the engine fast enough. so it was backing up near the pump and showing high psi reading. at full throttle the peg would sweep up to 80-90 psi. i never ran the car hard cold....
later as i began to auto cross with it, i added a higher volume oil pump (auto cross pump), high flow water pump and an engine oil cooler with cold start valve. the valve didnt allow oil through cooler until it reached a certain temp (kinda like a thermostat for your engine oil). i had to add these components as the car began to run to hot. especially with the mods that i had added (headers w/ full exaust and cat delete, performance cam, port and polish, milled the head, top end freshining, bigger thorttle body, intake, advanced the timing, upgrade fuel injection computer). the car was dead until about 3500-4000 rpm thats when it "came on to the cam" it pulled hard all the way to its 7200 redline (up from stock) and this was all on a stock bottom end with over 180,000 miles on it...
all in all it was a fun car which taught my alot, especially when it came to oil management.
the bmw m3 wont let you run it hard until its oil reaches a certain temp... the computer starts off with a low redline (6000 i think) and will raise that in 500 rpm increments until it reaches its proper temp.
dont run your car hard until you know its warmed up
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Originally Posted by badboy
Guys,
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
I don't know about you guys, but I hardly find myself going over 3500 rpms in the TL. Trust me, I am not a slow driver either. I was wondering how many people actually go above 4000 rpms on a regular basis. I can count how many time I have gone past 5000 rpms; it doesn't happen often. I am satisfied with the power delivery I get, which is why I do not see the need in producing higher revs.
Thanks.
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