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05-20-2008, 12:21 PM
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3674 lbs - 3480 lbs
That's nearly 200 lbs difference between the regular trim 6MT and Type-S 5AT. The '07~'08 regular trim models weight tiny bit more than the '04~'07 models because there are some additional components are installed on the newer model. The weight difference also affects depending on the amount of fluid in the vehicle. The better way to determine cars weight is to base on the manufacturer's website or brochure. Those are new cars. Used cars weight will differ.
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That's nearly 200 lbs difference between the regular trim 6MT and Type-S 5AT. The '07~'08 regular trim models weight tiny bit more than the '04~'07 models because there are some additional components are installed on the newer model. The weight difference also affects depending on the amount of fluid in the vehicle. The better way to determine cars weight is to base on the manufacturer's website or brochure. Those are new cars. Used cars weight will differ.
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05-20-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
I knew without a doubt that the regular trim 6MT version is considerably lighter than the regular trim 5AT version. Difference ranging from 100~ 110 lbs for the 2006 models.
The difference is a difference. It's nothing like what Dave_B has mentioned "40 lbs". He doesn't even admit that he's been wrong the whole time.
This is ridiculous..... this doesn't even need to be an argument. It's so obvious the 6MT version is so much lighter. Case closed.
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The difference is a difference. It's nothing like what Dave_B has mentioned "40 lbs". He doesn't even admit that he's been wrong the whole time.
This is ridiculous..... this doesn't even need to be an argument. It's so obvious the 6MT version is so much lighter. Case closed.
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Okay, reading comprehension completely owns you. See post #20.
Originally Posted by Dave_B
Looks like we're both wrong, Chief. According to Honda themselves, a 2005 5AT weighs in 3582lbs and the 6MT at 3489lbs or about 93lbs between the too. A far cry from the 170lbs+ you swear by.
As for listed curb weight, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's pretty much up to the manufactuer how they want to list the weight. It really doesn't matter to the DOT as long as you're not under-reporting the weight. Some cars are listed at dry weight; some "wet" or full of fluids; or in BMW's case, and the weight is listed with a 160lb driver. The only way you'll really know is to pay $10 and put the car on the truck scales.
I'm done with you.
05-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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I am not supporting anybody here but everytime I read a post by Dave B, its either he would be putting down Honda/ Acura or defending Nissan/Infiniti. I think he should only post in the Nissan/Infiniti forums if he does not like Honda/Acura to avoid offending Acura fanboys over here..No offense meant Dave B but I i can't help but see your definite bias for Nissans which I reckon, you have all the right in the world to have. But if you put down a Honda or Acura in an Acura forum, I think this is REALLY wrong.
05-20-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Okay, reading comprehension completely owns you. See post #20.
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Looks like we're both wrong, Chief. According to Honda themselves, a 2005 5AT weighs in 3582lbs and the 6MT at 3489lbs or about 93lbs between the too. A far cry from the 170lbs+ you swear by."
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Looks like we're both wrong, Chief. According to Honda themselves, a 2005 5AT weighs in 3582lbs and the 6MT at 3489lbs or about 93lbs between the too. A far cry from the 170lbs+ you swear by."
And why can't you stay on topic instead of the personal attacks like attacking me in this thread and PMing me and telling me to "f@ck off"?
You really can't be 31.
It is comical how you choose to bend the data to support your claims about weight and basically say you're right and Honda is wrong.
I was man enough to admit my 40lbs guessimate was off and I posted links from Honda themselves showing the correct data.
I was man enough to admit my 40lbs guessimate was off and I posted links from Honda themselves showing the correct data.
You choose to take the lightest TL 6MT and compare it to the heavy TL-S 5AT which by the way has a good bit more HP/TQ and more useable powerband to negate that additional weight.
I think you need to get yourself back to logic school because you're making any sense.
As for listed curb weight, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's pretty much up to the manufactuer how they want to list the weight. It really doesn't matter to the DOT as long as you're not under-reporting the weight. Some cars are listed at dry weight; some "wet" or full of fluids; or in BMW's case, and the weight is listed with a 160lb driver. The only way you'll really know is to pay $10 and put the car on the truck scales.
I'm done with you.
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05-20-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cuteguy1414
I am not supporting anybody here but everytime I read a post by Dave B, its either he would be putting down Honda/ Acura or defending Nissan/Infiniti.
I think he should only post in the Nissan/Infiniti forums if he does not like Honda/Acura to avoid offending Acura fanboys over here..
Btw, thank you for your comments.
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05-20-2008, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Okay, reading comprehension completely owns you. See post #20.
And why can't you stay on topic instead of the personal attacks like attacking me in this thread and PMing me and telling me to "f@ck off"? You really can't be 31. It is comical how you choose to bend the data to support your claims about weight and basically say you're right and Honda is wrong. I was man enough to admit my 40lbs guessimate was off and I posted links from Honda themselves showing the correct data. Instead, you choose to take the lightest TL 6MT and compare it to the heavy TL-S 5AT which by the way has a good bit more HP/TQ and more useable powerband to negate that additional weight. I think you need to get yourself back to logic school because you're making any sense.
As for listed curb weight, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's pretty much up to the manufactuer how they want to list the weight. It really doesn't matter to the DOT as long as you're not under-reporting the weight. Some cars are listed at dry weight; some "wet" or full of fluids; or in BMW's case, and the weight is listed with a 160lb driver. The only way you'll really know is to pay $10 and put the car on the truck scales.
I'm done with you.
And why can't you stay on topic instead of the personal attacks like attacking me in this thread and PMing me and telling me to "f@ck off"? You really can't be 31. It is comical how you choose to bend the data to support your claims about weight and basically say you're right and Honda is wrong. I was man enough to admit my 40lbs guessimate was off and I posted links from Honda themselves showing the correct data. Instead, you choose to take the lightest TL 6MT and compare it to the heavy TL-S 5AT which by the way has a good bit more HP/TQ and more useable powerband to negate that additional weight. I think you need to get yourself back to logic school because you're making any sense.
As for listed curb weight, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's pretty much up to the manufactuer how they want to list the weight. It really doesn't matter to the DOT as long as you're not under-reporting the weight. Some cars are listed at dry weight; some "wet" or full of fluids; or in BMW's case, and the weight is listed with a 160lb driver. The only way you'll really know is to pay $10 and put the car on the truck scales.
I'm done with you.
05-20-2008, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I'm gonna have to call you on that. Base 6MT generally dynos~225 stock vs. ~235 for the TL-S 5AT. Torque disparity is roughly the same, giving the Base 6MT an ever so slight power/weight advantage and once you factor in the slushbox factor, the base model is a bit quicker. Conservatively speaking, we'll say 14.5 vs. 14.6.
05-20-2008, 06:27 PM
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^ He was talking about regular trim 6MT vs. Type-S 5AT. The 14.3 @ 98 mph, like you said, was done on a good track,... and it was MODDED. It's not pure stock. He also empty out the trunk, no spare tire, removed all mats, near empty tank of gas, etc. It's not a STOCK factory original state as if it just came out of a factory. The extra torque and hp on the Type-S 5AT isn't enough to take out the super-efficient regular trim 6MT cars. I was gonna correct you on that too, but forgot to mention it. You just got corrected again. To wrap up, anx1300c is correct. He got you corrected as well. Double pwnage.
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05-21-2008, 12:29 AM
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I won't worry too much about power under the curve for most Honda engines. Even their 4-cylinder engines make quite a bit of torque throughout the rpm range. For instance, the K24 in the TSX makes more torque at every single rpm than the 2.5L V6 engine in the IS250 6MT.
05-21-2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Stop with this smart a$$ comment. Don't post anything in this thread. Don't post anything in ALL threads in Acurazine website. You don't know much.
05-21-2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
14.2 is a possible number with a great driver. There is a stock 04 AV6 6MT that hit 14.24 and 14.27 stock with a 2.08 60ft!
They are the same car? Wow, I didn't know that.
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05-21-2008, 06:24 PM
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MODERATOR'S NOTE: Manual Transmission will be on hiatus away from Acurazine for about one week. Verbal abuse of and hostility towards other board members WILL NOT be tolerated here on Acurazine.
05-22-2008, 10:24 AM
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05-22-2008, 10:27 AM
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do you know how much that would cost??
http://www. v 6 p erformance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=127276
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05-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
F23A4 - Hey bro, why can't we link any thread from V 6 p e r f o r m a n c e . net?
Every time I try to put in the link it automaticaly deletes the name unless I space it like that.
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Every time I try to put in the link it automaticaly deletes the name unless I space it like that.
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