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Old 01-20-2010 | 11:11 PM
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Hydro-Seized my baby!

A friendly word of advice to those in California with the rain. If sporting the CAI, mine AEM, stay away from the deepend. I never had a problem with water or rain. Been through many storms. Yesterday, I misjudged the depth (didn't even look like a puddle/pool). Next thing I know, i see smoke and Im home taking off my CAI and plugs to try and crank over.
I've never water shoot so far. Final word, I made an insurace claim today for a brand new engine.
I drowned my kid, "uplandTLsleeping"
Old 01-20-2010 | 11:24 PM
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That sucks. I live in NJ and would never put a CAI on unless it has a bypass valve. When it rains here for more than a day local roads start to flood and it gets nasty.
Old 01-20-2010 | 11:26 PM
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ouch...yeah the storm in socal is pretty horrible right now. it's gonna be even worse tmr...=/

gl!
Old 01-20-2010 | 11:26 PM
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That sucks man, me and one of my friends were talking about hydro-lock today cause he had his bumper off and we were looking at his CAI. The weather in CA's been terrible lately! Down here in SD, we actually have a hurricane (or tornado, I can't remember) warning in place. This is ridiculous! . But yeah, I hope you get that new engine. Possible J35 swap? hahaha

EDIT: To all you socal guys. In conditions like we currently have, is it even possible to drive your car with a CAI?
Old 01-20-2010 | 11:28 PM
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Sorry to hear that. This is why I won't install a CAI. Let us know what happens with the insurance claim.

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Old 01-20-2010 | 11:59 PM
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How low are you guys? My CAI is long but I would need a very deep puddle to submerge the filter.
Old 01-21-2010 | 12:04 AM
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It's pretty flooded here. Sorry to hear, OP.
Old 01-21-2010 | 12:50 AM
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I hear cars are gettin buried underwater pretty much over in cali. That has to suck.
Old 01-21-2010 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gotkilled
ouch...yeah the storm in socal is pretty horrible right now. it's gonna be even worse tmr...=/

gl!
OP, sorry man! It'll all work out though

As for YOU (lol), how you like them apples, huh? a little bit of Seattle weather for you (that we get like, every day). HAW! lol jp
Old 01-21-2010 | 03:47 AM
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this is why the removed resonator box in the intake is the cheap and smart ~cai~
- it uses the stock airbox which is pretty high up, you just get direct airflow to the 2 stock holes in airbox bottom
as well as the plastic panel on bottom of car has drain holes~
Old 01-21-2010 | 05:19 AM
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Im sittin on Tein SS, Nitto 245 45 18, enkei RPF1 type II. The CAI was moved around a bit do to my endless electrical and optical battery.When I committed to the turn,even with my torque and power I was S.O.L. Immed stall and smoke, all that was left was to push my chick out and help me push to level ground. My insurance though is being way cool. They said I wasnt the victim. Now begins the shopping. Any thoughts. I was 1 in irriplacible machine!!Even worse, I have more mods being delivered today..
Old 01-21-2010 | 06:41 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Let us know how the new engine is.
Old 01-21-2010 | 07:30 AM
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Damn Dude, Sorry to hear that. Hope everything works out pretty well. At least you get a brand new engine. Also just wondering what they will put down on your carfax report flood damage or engine problem.
Old 01-21-2010 | 09:02 AM
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I mis-judged the depth of this hole to..

Think I was about 23 at the time of misjudgement.








Old 01-21-2010 | 09:35 AM
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^ wtf?
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bender
I mis-judged the depth of this hole to..

Think I was about 23 at the time of misjudgement.
How in the world did you ever clean that up?? Was that Jeep totaled?
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:19 AM
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^ that sucks more

and i never knew u wud need a new engine if water got in
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:24 AM
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When we had the really bad rain storms here some time in October of '09, it really made me not want to install a CAI. Now that I'm lowered, I'll stick with the stock box to avoid this from happening.
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:25 AM
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that sucks man. ive been driving conservatively during the ran and slow down when i see cars plowing through water. i slow down and check how deep they go before i go.
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:44 AM
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bender- that looked fun! we did alot of boggin' when i was in college.
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:46 AM
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How in the world did you ever clean that up?? Was that Jeep totaled?
You should have seen the amount of mud that came off at the spray wash. Like 2 inches on the ground when I left LOL. A few wires were melted and I had to splice them back, it was only running on 5 cylinders when we got it out.
Took a couple weeks and a rebuilt front diff. Took the seats/carpet out, drilled holes in the floor board and pressure washed it out. Rhino lined it after that and put boat plugs in the holes. I had it for another 6 years after that. Ran great.
Old 01-21-2010 | 10:50 AM
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HMMMM, anyone ever hydrolock with an AEM V2. Since it has a floating pipe within a pipe, I would think it would be harder to get water free flowing up the pipe.... Let me see If I could find a dissected image.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:01 AM
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Couldn't find an image. but here is an explanation.
second mark : 14s - 27s

Please don't flame for postin this vid. This is simply for a better understanding of how water would have to almost fill the bottom larger diameter tube significantly before it can find its way into the floating inner "smaller diameter" tube.

I am aware of the CAI dispute. HP or no HP, I like the way it sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4ru6Q3NTII
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:02 AM
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You should have seen the amount of mud that came off at the spray wash. Like 2 inches on the ground when I left LOL. A few wires were melted and I had to splice them back, it was only running on 5 cylinders when we got it out.
Took a couple weeks and a rebuilt front diff. Took the seats/carpet out, drilled holes in the floor board and pressure washed it out. Rhino lined it after that and put boat plugs in the holes. I had it for another 6 years after that. Ran great.
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How in the world did you ever clean that up?? Was that Jeep totaled?
Yea, it was great fun. I had more fun in the Carolina trails, less mud. If I get another jeep like that I'm gonna lower it and stroke it out. There was a guy on the jeep boards with a 5.9 stroked and supercharged. He ran 1/4 mile in under 12 sec.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TRIOD3SIGNS
Couldn't find an image. but here is an explanation.
second mark : 14s - 27s

Please don't flame for postin this vid. This is simply for a better understanding of how water would have to almost fill the bottom larger diameter tube significantly before it can find its way into the floating inner "smaller diameter" tube.

I am aware of the CAI dispute. HP or no HP, I like the way it sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4ru6Q3NTII
I wonder how he sleeps at night telling lies like that.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bender
You should have seen the amount of mud that came off at the spray wash. Like 2 inches on the ground when I left LOL. A few wires were melted and I had to splice them back, it was only running on 5 cylinders when we got it out.
Took a couple weeks and a rebuilt front diff. Took the seats/carpet out, drilled holes in the floor board and pressure washed it out. Rhino lined it after that and put boat plugs in the holes. I had it for another 6 years after that. Ran great.
Even after all that mud got on my K&N, I never once had hydro lock or mechanical problems with the motor. When I would take off the filter and run my hand in the tube, you could see the road dust on my fingers from inside the tube. K&N definitely does not filter the best. Sold the jeep with 225K miles on it still running strong.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bender
I wonder how he sleeps at night telling lies like that.
LOL, I knew I was guna get flamed for it

I am aware of the CAI dispute. HP or no HP, I like the way it sounds. In my opinion the sounds adds a mental 35hp.... JK

Thanks Bender... smart ass LOL










Sooooo. back to the topic on hand. Would the V2 with a dual sleeve resist Hydrolock more than an Original CAI with a single tube?

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Old 01-21-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TRIOD3SIGNS
LOL, I knew I was guna get flamed for it

I am aware of the CAI dispute. HP or no HP, I like the way it sounds. In my opinion the sounds adds like 35hp.... JK

Thanks Bender... smart ass LOL









Sooooo. back to the topic on hand. Would the V2 with a dual sleeve resist Hydrolock more than an Original CAI with a single tube?
I didn't mean you were the LIAR! LOLZORS.

It seems like he said it was raised up higher more so yea harder to lock up.

We all should just pipe a snorkel out of the hood up to the roof.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:17 AM
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That sucks. I've never had an issue in northern or southern california when the rains came but I generally avoided the deep puddles.
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SNORKEL FTMFW!!! TRY HYDROLOKIN IN THIS LOL
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:29 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:43 AM
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Im in downtown LA, trust me, IT"S flooded almost everywhere around the produce areas, Vernon city, Alameda and all those.

1 month ago when it started raining i took out my AEM CAI and just put in the stock air box with filter, the piping that goes down the hole by the battery is not there, just the hole in the box.

You have no idea how much i think about the decision at the time, and how close i was to not doing it because i didnt think it was going to rain that bad.

I can tell you with the way i have the stock box without the stupid resonator the car would have to be under water up to where the the wheel well is and stil be ok.

Good luck with the claim, and swapping the CAI with the stock box only took 20 minutes, so it's something you can do during the rainy season and put back the CAI after.
Old 01-21-2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
this is why the removed resonator box in the intake is the cheap and smart ~cai~
- it uses the stock airbox which is pretty high up, you just get direct airflow to the 2 stock holes in airbox bottom
as well as the plastic panel on bottom of car has drain holes~
Originally Posted by SpecTro

I can tell you with the way i have the stock box without the stupid resonator the car would have to be under water up to where the the wheel well is and stil be ok.
Whew! You guys made me feel a lot better now. lol. I'm currently running the stock intake with the resonator delete and I wasn't too sure about whether or not I was at as much of a risk as a traditional CAI in wet conditions. But come to think of it, you guys are right. The stock intake tubing is really high up w/o the resonator. But anyways, thanks for the re-assurance. . This change in weather is making me heavily re-consider buying a traditional CAI..I might run a custom icebox set-up like Spiike... let me see if I can find his thread.

EDIT: found it. How do you guys think this set-up would fair against bad weather? And, would I be losing performance by using this instead of a traditional CAI?

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/2007-acura-tl-s-icebox-cai-done-pics-vid-629582/

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Old 01-21-2010 | 01:03 PM
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the puddle doesnt even have to be that deep, its also the speed you hit it that makes the difference. i killed my engine last year for this very same reason. hit a "puddle" that turned out to be as deep as the underside of the car, but hit it going 30-40mph. i had no clue it was there and BAM! car was dead right in the middle. car ran fine after it was cleaned out but 2 or so months later i blew a rod. unfortunately i didnt get a new engine, just a slightly newer than original engine...but still used. good luck!
Old 01-21-2010 | 01:07 PM
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I have a CAI, and Im lowered, been driving all over in this rain with no problems. As long as you don't drive in any deep puddles you will be fine. I drove for 4 years in a lowered Camaro with a CAI when I was younger and never had problems. Anyways, if you are worried, a good solution is to throw the stock airbox on for a few days until this rain subsides. If I lived somewhere else besides SoCal where the weather is worse more often, I would probably run a stock airbox. Its not that bad here though.

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Old 01-21-2010 | 03:44 PM
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This was the 1st time. I was making a left from the center divider into a service street that gathered debris and a whole "lotta water" It was to late once I commited into the turn.
Old 01-21-2010 | 03:47 PM
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Next time Im hittin the NOS button
Old 01-21-2010 | 04:24 PM
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lol, NOSSSS!

I made a right turn from the next lane over to avoid a big puddle earlier. Luckily the CAI is on the left side and most of the water accumulates on the right side of the road.

Most of my commute to work is on the freeway though I drive over the hill from 405 and Victory to 405 and Wilshire. Thankfully there is no water build up on the freeway anywhere.
Old 01-21-2010 | 04:37 PM
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I don't get it guys....how can you misjudge the depth of the puddle by 2 feet? If there is standing water, or worse moving water, turn around and find another route. Technically you should never drive through anything deeper than the hubs, and even that is pushing it.
Old 01-21-2010 | 06:33 PM
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damn your title totally mislead me lol. I thought hydro (as is u didnt pay ur bills for hydro on time) repossesed your car. Im glad its not as bad but sorry for your baby. g luck with the fixin


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