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Old 11-09-2005, 09:16 PM
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90 is achievable, just not in ANY normal conditions.
Old 11-09-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shinybluecls
what onramp to the 10 are we talking about (area/city). If its the ones I'm thinking in the san gabriel area....taking it at 90 is just plain stupid. you're lucky no one got hurt...granted i take turns just as fast as any other corner loving psycho...but theres a difference between doing it in an isolated area where you're not endangering anyone except yourself and a public area where you're possibly putting many people at danger. that aside...you didn't drift...all it was is oversteer...big difference between oversteering and drifting

edit: actually thinking about it more...i highly doubt you took that 45 degree onramp at 90mph. I've sat in an nsx in the hands of a very very good driver and going into a 45 degree turn at most....was maybe 70...75mph. Being that was in an nsx...i highly doubt your tl actually remained planted doing 90 in a 45 degree turn. Not trying to attack you or anything...just stating that your story seems highly incorrect
yea it is the san gabriel 10 onramp. I dont know how fast i was ACTUALLY doing ON the ramp but i checked speed the second the car turned straight and i was at 90. that's why the +-10 people. and i didn't say drift, i said semi-drifted cauz i dont know how to call that thing i did. People need to read.
Old 11-09-2005, 09:21 PM
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and how come this dumbass' thread got to second page. you want to talk shit then talk in real life not on a forum. from the onramp entrance to the freeway itself is around 90 degrees give take 5~10 degrees. ill go through and take some pic some times when i got time. the friend i was chasing was in a freaking rx330 and i couldn't even catch up to him. explain that :\
Old 11-09-2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by clsdave
Ask your self is she is a good enough friend not to sue you if she got hurt with your stunt. If so let her try the same the same thing with you in the passenger seat. If not you better get more insurance. Lots more!
yea i did apologize to her afterwards and after i went home. then couldn't sleep and called her up again to apologize again lol. hindsight it was a really fucking dumb thing do to and yes both of us coulda been seriously hurt. so don't try this at home kids.
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You guys are lacking one critical data; how long is the on-ramp stretched out :\. I guess most people assume that it's like a short little one laner that's 50 feet long or something.
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Quote: the friend i was chasing was in a freaking rx330 and i couldn't even catch up to him. explain that :\

Ahh, your a crappy driver? RX330 does .75 on the skidpad and TL-Aspec does .90 (both results per C&D). The all over acceleration of the TL is also better than that of an RX330 by a LOT.
JK about the crappy driving, I really cant explain the inhibility to catch up though.
Old 11-09-2005, 10:11 PM
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yea i did apologize to her afterwards and after i went home. then couldn't sleep and called her up again to apologize

good deal. I was hoping you would say that. still I hope she gave you a good bish slap.
Old 11-09-2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiretapped
well, today i was trying to catch up to a friend. I'm going on the on-ramp of the 10 freeway which is around a 45 degree curve, and I ended up taking it around 90 mph! (maybe a bit less, but +- 10mph around) The car semi-drifted the turn and didn't slow down a bit. friend who was sitting in the passenger sit literally flew sideways. good thing she got her seat belt on. It was a pretty cool experience and just thought i'd share it. 05 stock non a-spec.
No you didn't... Shut up...
Old 11-09-2005, 10:29 PM
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oops, NON-aspec, either way doesnt compare to an RX330.
Old 11-09-2005, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiretapped
and how come this dumbass' thread got to second page. you want to talk shit then talk in real life not on a forum. from the onramp entrance to the freeway itself is around 90 degrees give take 5~10 degrees. that :\

LOL I have to admit this was such a fun thread...I hope reading the comments made you realize what a stupid thread you started. But its all cool...just don't do stupid things like that again...I know you are still a kid, but remember you only have one life.
Old 11-09-2005, 10:41 PM
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If he was doing 90 through the corner the RX330 must've been doing 110. People have always wanted SUVs to handle like sports cars, whodathunk it would have been the RX330 that would have answered that desire.

He still hasn't addressed the VSA question. If it's ON by default, why didn't it kick in if you did in fact oversteer the TL?
Old 11-09-2005, 11:04 PM
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:08 PM
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I bet we would be in close competition with a cayanne S turbo.
Old 11-10-2005, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Your car did not drift.. you experienced FWD oversteer, something that was common in the 1991-1995 Legend when pushed to its limits.

BTW, I wouldnt advise doing this ever again.
curious on how common cause I am buying a 94 legend
Old 11-10-2005, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
curious on how common cause I am buying a 94 legend
Common, the Legend is slightly tailhappy and will oversteer if you push it HARD. Otherwise VERY stable.
Old 11-10-2005, 08:37 AM
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All i can think of while reading this is the voice of Beavis telling the story

"well, today i was trying to catch up to a friend." yehh- yehh yehh !! " I'm going on the on-ramp of the 10 freeway which is around a 45 degree curve, and I ended up taking it around 90 mph! (maybe a bit less, but +- 10mph around) The car semi-drifted the turn and didn't slow down a bit. friend who was sitting in the passenger sit literally flew sideways. good thing she got her seat belt on. It was a pretty cool" yeh! yeh !! " experience and just thought i'd share it. 05 stock non a-spec."

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Old 11-10-2005, 10:17 AM
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oh com'on guys... don't be that nasty to him.
After all, he just oversteered and thought he drifted.....
Old 11-10-2005, 04:06 PM
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I think VSA was ON and VSA is to blame for the oversteer. On a front driver that naturally over steers when going around a curve and carrying a lot of speed you have to turn the steering wheel by a higher degree to overcome the understeer. VSA on the other hand tries to force the car to go where steering wheel is pointing it to. So VSA probably applied brakes to one side or just one rear wheel of his car causing the oversteer. I had a similar experience with 2002 TLS when car did not want to go into a turn and the suddenly oversteered almost sending me into a wall. All in all VSA is probably not very appropriate for FWD cars with heavy understeer.
Old 11-10-2005, 05:43 PM
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VSA and all stability controls reduce the risk for single car accidents significantly. Look up that report from the IIHS or NHTSA. VSA will not force you out of control. I'm not denying you might have had a bad experience, but in general, VSA does much more good than it will harm.
Old 11-10-2005, 05:52 PM
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C&D said the TL had very minimal understeer, they said with Aspec they even experienced a little oversteer. Dunno if they had the VSA on though.
Old 11-10-2005, 06:12 PM
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