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Old 08-30-2010, 11:13 AM
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Help me decide: 2008 TYPE-S or 2011 Camaro 2SS?

Looking for some input... Found a 2008 Type-S 6 Speed in bronze with ony 19K miles. At first I got pretty excited about it, as I had leased a "regular" TL and liked it. But then seeing a Camaro 2SS, V8, 6 speed, in Cyber Gray made me all nice and tingly all over.

Now I can't decide... Front Wheel Drive on a "sleeper" performer with looks (and $10K less price sticker) my accountant would approve.... or rear wheel drive "I eat asphalt for breakfast, lunch, and dinner" Camaro 2SS?

Keep in mind, this will be my daily driver and I live in snow-prone Philly region.

So, do I respond to a sensible side or do I get a 2 door monster?
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well, your asking acura enthusiasts a question comparing acuras (which we all obviously own) to another car, i'm not saying you wont get un-biased opinions here, but a lot of them are.

It really depends on what YOU prefer, drive them both and see which you like better, i personally don't like the camaro styling at all, havn't seen the interior but nothing could convince me otherwise based on the outside looks.

TL is classy, timeless, and plenty fun enough to drive.
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I say go for the TL ... you will have the mix of sports luxury and the 6 speed. And during the snow no issues that you will face with RWD
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you are comparing 2 very different cars....

i would get the camaro just for a fun car....but the TL is more of a daily driver....plus if you live in philly where u get crazy amount of snow i would venture into a 4WD....

just my
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I know where you are coming from. Before I decided to go with my 08 TL-S, I was looking at the 2010 Challenger R/T. I drove both and realized one very important thing. Looks, styling, and front/rear wheel drive aside, they drive completely different. I had American muscle before and loved it. The question was, do I want my daily driver to drive like my other car, or do I want something that will drive like a sports car?

For me, this was an easy question to answer. Although I really enjoy driving rear wheel drive cars, I was looking for a car that handles more like a sports car rather than a Cadillac.
Ultimately you will buy a car that is very hard to find(TL-S) in great condition, low miles, and a rare model, or a car that is a classic American muscle car that can be fun to drive in the snow.

Lastly, for me to consider the SS, I know I would have to dump $$$ in order to bring it up to standards with the TL-S.
Hope that helps.

BTW, I always said I would eventually buy another American muscle car when I could afford to find the exact car I wanted and then upgrade it to the max but now that I have found the TL-S, I much rather go the sports car/luxury path.
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if you have the money for a muscle car....you should be looking at a 2011 GT.....not the camaro aka overweight pig that cant handle and gets teabagged by the 11 GT in all facets of being a performance vehicle.

aside from that....you live in philly. how the hell are you going to get around in the winter in a muscle car?

this thread is borderline stupid. 2 totally different vehicles for 2 totally different types of purposes.
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2011 Challenger SRT 8 6.4L hemi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I say TL-S. I was looking at all kinds of vehicles before my purchase last month. But i also wanted something practical. I tossed around the idea of a C5 Vette, SRT-8 Jeep and a few others, but im happy with what i ended up with.
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Tl-s ftw!!!
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Originally Posted by justnspace
2011 Challenger SRT 8 6.4L hemi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes! Haha!

In all seriousness... Like others have said... Apples to oranges... what are you in the mood for?

TL-S for practicality and Fun! And a great online community
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Welcome, OP. In a snow prone region, go with the FWD car.
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TL-S. unless you want to be driving from inside a pillbox which is what you will feel when you drive the Camaro. visibility is nil.
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That Camaro gets the front of my shirt all wet too but as a daily driver in snow country,,,,,it's the '08 TL-S (also my daily ride).
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TL-S...even though the SS would be tons-o-fun. And think about this...you will be looking at the inside of the car WAY more often than you will be looking at the outside, and the TL is WAAAAYYYYY better looking inside than the Camaro. So what do you want, performance...or everything else?
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Hey everyone, thanks for the input. I understand that it's hard to compare the two and each is in a class of it's own. I guess what I'm looking for is opinions on a "fun factor", since practicality and Camaro do not really fit into the same sentence, for the most part.

I know that from a practicality standpoint there are not too many cars that fit the bill as nicely as a TL Type S, while offering fun and good looks. And deep down on a very secret level this thread wouldn't even exist, had I found an identical TL in blue (as it is my favorite TL Type S color).

However, having driven a V8 Camaro 6 Speed I couldn't help but grin silly, while driving a TL was more of a disconnected experience, no offense to TL or it's die hard owners. I also suspect that this fact has a potential of significantly boosting revenues of various speed enforcement agencies...

Perhaps I should mention an ace in my back pocket - I got an RSX Type S right now, which could be my "winter/bad weather" daily driver. Which wouldn't be needed if I had a TL. So, not only it's $10K more but also cost of additional insurance +potential value of RSX.

Yes, I know - practicality speaks for itself, TL Type-S is the way to go... but you only live once, no? Wouldn't you wanna have a little fun? Kind of fun that Acura, as nice as it is, just wouldn't be able to provide?

It's like a girl who's classy and polite and educated but very timid in the sack vs that rowdy and loose girl that's dangerous, hot, not the kind you'd bring home to mom... but who will put a smile on your face every time you ride 'er...

I just can't decide... damn it.
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Originally Posted by cynep
Keep in mind, this will be my daily driver and I live in snow-prone Philly region.
enough said???
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If you have the RSX then I think the Camaro is a no brainer. I hope you have a garage. I put a Camaro 2SS in the "stupid to leave it out in the bad weather" category.

If it were going to be the only car you owned then I would definitely say the Type-S though.
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If you live in an area with snow in winter, neither are the best options...
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sounds like you already made up your mind, with the fun car.

this all is on you and your decision.
if you can afford the car, then go ahead.
if you cant, get the cheaper of the two.


again, the weight is on YOU. not us.

I think its silly when people ask these kind of questions.
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The Camaro is a cool weekend car, but its not a great DD and you will get sick of filling it with gas all the time
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Drove the Camaro as a rental. 6 cyl had plenty of balls and one of the most responsive 6 speed autos.
Sub 6 second 0-60, 28 mpg hwy and the ride was decent. SO there's a third option if you're trying to be somewhat responsible and still have fun.

That said, you live in Philly. Yes there's snow but the roads are cleared pretty fast...it won't matter if you drive the TL or the Camaro in what's left on the roads. Neither will be terrible. Drive the RSX in the shit, or just stay home if it's that bad.
I went TL because I have to take customers out and needed a 4-door. I would have gone 6cyl 2LT RS otherwise.

Just my opinion
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Dude if you have a DD then hell yes go for the camaro....better yet....Ford Mustang GT ?
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Originally Posted by sixsixfour
TL-S. unless you want to be driving from inside a pillbox which is what you will feel when you drive the Camaro. visibility is nil.
Interesting you mentioned that, my friend said the exact same thing in terms of visibility from inside to out. Apparently the dashboard was designed poorly so that you don't get an efficient view out the windshield.

The most basic model camaro can spank the TL-S bone stock to bone stock, but with the camaro you are paying for the engine and the exterior styling. The interior in terms of looks and feel when you are behind the wheel are shit.

With the TL-S, you get the best of both worlds, sacrificing a little bit of engine power.
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I think the TL would make a better daily overall, and FWD is better in snow. But, I like the Camaro SS's, so I'm undecided. But I say help yourself out economically and get something you can afford.
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2011 mustang shelby GT500!!
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GT500 gets expensive....50K for a new one....

i would go with just the GT...which is ~28K...and it has a 5.0L v8 .... i think you get the bang for ur buck !!!
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take the tl-s but im bias Camaro sexy though but not a good daily driver....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
GT500 gets expensive....50K for a new one....

i would go with just the GT...which is ~28K...and it has a 5.0L v8 .... i think you get the bang for ur buck !!!
true and look up the stock 11 GT 5.0L beats the Camaro's 6.2L in the quarter mile
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the camaro is damn sexy....but im gonna have to say the TL =)
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If you can keep your RSX(a perfect daily driver) and afford a new car why not get a RWD?

GM cars don't hold their values well though. I wouldn't buy those things new.
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Originally Posted by swoosh
GT500 gets expensive....50K for a new one....

i would go with just the GT...which is ~28K...and it has a 5.0L v8 .... i think you get the bang for ur buck !!!
and you can get a supercharger from Ford for $8,000 and wipe the floor with most things out there.


OP, If you already have a DD beater then I'd get the Camaro.
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Originally Posted by cynep

It's like a girl who's classy and polite and educated but very timid in the sack vs that rowdy and loose girl that's dangerous, hot, not the kind you'd bring home to mom... but who will put a smile on your face every time you ride 'er...

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That's exactly right.

Now let me help you out. You already have a front wheel drive rsx. Sure getting the TL-S would be an upgrade, but not really worth buying, especially since you're unsure.

Get the SS, or mustang , change the gears to lets say, 3.43 and treat her like she slept with your brother.

Remember, she likes it rough, so give her what she wants.

That's what I did to my 1985 Chevy Monte Carlo SS and she loved it. She has since moved on to hopefully a better life where her ass won't break lose every chance I got and over heat.

BTW, yes I'm talking about the car.
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^ lmao
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My only complaint about the new Camaro (have a V6 in the driveway) is the shit for visibility and the manuals don't feel right in them. However it has some nice haunches to stare at if you adjust the side mirrors in a bit. Definitely can be made to look very aggressive. Steering is very touchy in them too - not necessarily a bad thing. They just need to release a good SC kit for the 6.

Also, forget about any normal sized humans sitting in the back. I am 5'11 and my head is smashed against the roof if I try to sit in the rear.
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Also, forget about any normal sized humans sitting in the back. I am 5'11 and my head is smashed against the roof if I try to sit in the rear.
lol

type-s all the way.
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See, I'm not the only one who has a soft spot for Camaro. I'm not a Ford person, never was - therefore no mustang (or charger, for that matter) for me. Just something about Camaro that I like. I think for now, I'll get a type s and see how it goes... until next summer, when Z24 and convertible are due out.

Thanks everyone for your comments - believe it or not but it helped make up my mind.
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I would stick with the TL as the daily driver. To me the camaro is depreciating too fast to want to sink money into it. Also when you start having a beater and a fun car you or at least I always ended up in the beater everywhere i went...

I didnt want to get the "fun car" dirty, dinged, mileage, blah blah blah....
so I never drove it...it was beautiful in my garage and I smiled silly every time I opened the garage and drove it...but it was one day out of 15 and less then that in Denver's winter (i was actually more nervous about rocks hitting it on the highway there).

The TL-S makes me smile with its thoughtfulness all the time...it does things that I think are just cool and it makes me smile even when I am not dragging...
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The Camaro is a cool car and all, but I smile every time I get in the 6spd TL. Our Camaro does not do that... maybe if it were the V8? Not sure, I'm assuming no since I've drooled over having a 6spd TL for years.
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Too be honest, when I bought my car I had a whole long list of cars I wanted and "thought" I'd like. Of course, the Camaro was not released at that time (the newer version at least). I chose the TL because of the reliability, looks, and longevity that the car brings. At that time, 3-4 years till Med School I didn't want a car that will break down on me in a crucial time in my life either. The Type-S is even a bigger plus as I bought just the base. Either way it is always up to you, but the Type-S wins hands down in a budget, luxury, and best bang for your buck class. I wouldn't trade my car for any car until it starts in the M3 price range. I don't care for the IS series, the Camaros, def. not the mustangs (POS), or any Benz/3 series bimmers (even though 335i's are nice and was 2nd on my list when I bought my car).


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