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Old 11-23-2009, 07:31 PM
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Haters..lol

I got kids at my school taking shots at the TL left and right saying it's "heavy and slow", while I will admit it's not the fastest car, it's definitely not the slowest. To make a long story short I wanna know if I stand a chance against the following;

1) 96 or 98 328i 5-speed MT. With Intake/Exhaust. And I think a drop..? Haven't really paid much attention

2) 05-06 G35 auto. Stock with a drop. I think that's all he's got.

3) 08 Lancer GTS 5MT. All Stock.

4) 06 Altima 2.5. Idk any details about this one yet.

These guys seem to want it the most and I usually just brush it off cause I don't want my insurance going sky high but just for the hell of it, could I race these guys and stand a chance? I got a '04 5at. All Stock.
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you should win against all of those cars listed except the g35. g35 might give you a run for your money lol
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the 328 5mt will probably get a good jump off the line but i am confident you'll catch up

you will probably be even with the g35 or ithe G will be ahead by a little

Lancer GTS? 168 horsepower. you do the math.

the altima 2.5s you should walk him easily.
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Honestly, the only I'd waste gas on would be the G35. The other three should be kills for a 3G TL 5AT.
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Originally Posted by bb4_vtec
the 328 5mt will probably get a good jump off the line but i am confident you'll catch up

you will probably be even with the g35 or ithe G will be ahead by a little

Lancer GTS? 168 horsepower. you do the math.

the altima 2.5s you should walk him easily.
Alright got it. Any tips on how to get the most out of an AT transmission except flooring it? lol. Should I keep it in SS? and what gears/rpm should I start around.

1 more guys, my best friends got a 2000 v6 solara auto. I've seen him beat a G (WTF) and I know someday we'll end up going at it so, can I kill that solara? lol
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It depends how crazy the driver is.
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solara might be supercharged. if he beat the G that youre mentioning then u will have no problem beating the G as well. those solaras are a joke
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You will walk all over all of them except the G35. Thats the only one worth it unless you race the others for money, quick cash grab then mod it to beat the G35

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Any tips on how to get the most out of an AT transmission except flooring it? lol. Should I keep it in SS? and what gears/rpm should I start around.
Make sure your ESP/VSA is turned off. Hold the brake down hard and keep the RPMs around 1800-2000.

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i'm fully bolted on, and i barely kept ahead of an auto g35. i got the jump too...we stayed even for quite some time...and then quit!
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You will walk all over all of them except the G35. Thats the only one worth it unless you race the others for money, quick cash grab then mod it to beat the G35



Make sure your ESP/VSA is turned off. Hold the brake down hard and keep the RPMs around 1800-2000.

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I like the idea man. I guess I'll put $20 down per race hahah. I need the money right now anyways. lol

SHIT! no wonder why I was launching so terribly tonight! I had my VSA on the whole time.

With the brake thing, should I keep my foot on the brake while revving in first gear and then just floor it when I launch?
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hmnnnnnn not sure about street racing tips for a 17 year old.
keep it safe and dont do anything stupid
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Like most people said, the G35 is the one that will probably beat you. You'll smoke the rest of them
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Originally Posted by pohljm
hmnnnnnn not sure about street racing tips for a 17 year old.
keep it safe and dont do anything stupid
I know where you're coming from, but we're not doing it out in the open. We gotta' few back road spots that are barren at night in Poway, Sabre Springs, and Scripps. My insurance is high enough as it is, so I won't be doing this during the day or when there's a lot of traffic around.

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SG and Alex:
Thanks guys. If possible I'll get vids.
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1) 328i: I raced a new 335i down I-90 & took him a few times in my 08 TL-S. Driving skills helped that time a bit, as there were a few cars on the highway.
2) G35: raced one that either had an intake or exhaust & was about 1/2 car to full car ahead a couple times. This was in my 05 TL with drop in k&N filter.
3) 08 Lancer GTS: a joke!
4) 06 Altima 2.5. a joke as well.
so yep, G35 is the best match-up as all others have said. My dad has a G35 coupe with a Nismo CAI but we havent had the chance or he lets off too soon. Good luck! Post vids & pics!
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The best part about the TL is that everyone understimates them, I have story after story of "fun" driving. Try to get him on a long stretch, our mid range in the TLs (3rd gear) is huge. If you want a little more advantage make sure you're using premium fuel & have less than 1/4 tank in. Do you have any mods?
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:24 PM
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He's stock.

G should be close, but my bet is he'll walk you, especially from a launch. FWD vs. RWD, and he's got about 20 horses on you, maybe a bit less.

I personally wouldn't even bother with street racing. It's totally pointless. So you win, you lose. What does it matter?
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
1) 328i: I raced a new 335i down I-90 & took him a few times in my 08 TL-S. Driving skills helped that time a bit, as there were a few cars on the highway.
2) G35: raced one that either had an intake or exhaust & was about 1/2 car to full car ahead a couple times. This was in my 05 TL with drop in k&N filter.
3) 08 Lancer GTS: a joke!
4) 06 Altima 2.5. a joke as well.
so yep, G35 is the best match-up as all others have said. My dad has a G35 coupe with a Nismo CAI but we havent had the chance or he lets off too soon. Good luck! Post vids & pics!
1) BMW: The 328i is a 96 or 98, I can't remember.
2) G35: That's sick bro! I used to think our TL's couldn't hang with G's.
3) Lancer GTS: He's my boy though haha. He swears he'll win cause it's a stick.
4) Altima: Good. lol

I'll try man! You do the same when you get a chance with your dad!

Speaking of dad's, could I take my dad's '07 ES350? Not really gonna' try, I just wanna' mess with him. haha
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
The best part about the TL is that everyone understimates them, I have story after story of "fun" driving. Try to get him on a long stretch, our mid range in the TLs (3rd gear) is huge. If you want a little more advantage make sure you're using premium fuel & have less than 1/4 tank in. Do you have any mods?
All Stock.

Thanks for the tips man!


Share some stories bro, I'm bored over here anyway. lol
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He's stock.

G should be close, but my bet is he'll walk you, especially from a launch. FWD vs. RWD, and he's got about 20 horses on you, maybe a bit less.

I personally wouldn't even bother with street racing. It's totally pointless. So you win, you lose. What does it matter?
Thanks for the input man.

In truth, it doesn't. You're right, but with all due respect I still wanna' do it haha. Can't help myself. It's just one of those things, a phase I guess.
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Originally Posted by AMAN1
He's stock.

G should be close, but my bet is he'll walk you, especially from a launch. FWD vs. RWD, and he's got about 20 horses on you, maybe a bit less.

I personally wouldn't even bother with street racing. It's totally pointless. So you win, you lose. What does it matter?
Things like: fun, excitement, thrill, bragging rights, desire to win, desire to be first...all things canadians wouldn't understand
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
Things like: fun, excitement, thrill, bragging rights, desire to win, desire to be first...all things canadians wouldn't understand
Damn man! that's being blunt! hahahahaha

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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
All Stock.

Thanks for the tips man!


Share some stories bro, I'm bored over here anyway. lol
What do you consider a "race"? Side by side from take-off or pulling up next to someone on the highway and seeing who gets ahead? Regardless, be safe, think ahead & be free of distractions. I've had fun against Mustang Cobras, G35s, 335is, IS300s, Maximas, M3s & many more.
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
What do you consider a "race"? Side by side from take-off or pulling up next to someone on the highway and seeing who gets ahead? Regardless, be safe, think ahead & be free of distractions. I've had fun against Mustang Cobras, G35s, 335is, IS300s, Maximas, M3s & many more.
Both, lol. Basically when 2 or more drivers are competing against each other anyway. A very vague definition. Thanks again for the tips man. STORIES NOW! lol
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g35 would be a good race
and you'd smoke the other cars
i know from experience
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The first time I got to see what my 05 TL could really do was on a road trip from Chi to Cali. In Wyoming on a looong smooth straight away with no one around for miles I hit it. I did about 148mph all alone no racing. Once this M3 thought he'd leave me in the dust but much to his surprise i was on his tale...never passed him but literally was like 5' behind him the entire time, which was where i started. He hit it after he saw i was tailing him & i stayed right with him. Another had a Mustang Cobra punch it at a red light where two lane merged into one up ahead, he ended up behind me in shock. More to come....hahahahaha.
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Originally Posted by YUNG.MONEY
g35 would be a good race
and you'd smoke the other cars
i know from experience
Well, it's good to know someone's got kills on these cars before.

Just a Q, does a drop greatly affect the acceleration of the car. I know the handling is increased greatly.
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
The first time I got to see what my 05 TL could really do was on a road trip from Chi to Cali. In Wyoming on a looong smooth straight away with no one around for miles I hit it. I did about 148mph all alone no racing. Once this M3 thought he'd leave me in the dust but much to his surprise i was on his tale...never passed him but literally was like 5' behind him the entire time, which was where i started. He hit it after he saw i was tailing him & i stayed right with him. Another had a Mustang Cobra punch it at a red light where two lane merged into one up ahead, he ended up behind me in shock. More to come....hahahahaha.
Damn dude, E46???

Damn, what happened to all that muscle under the hood. Killing a cobra must have been tight as hell since straights are what there built for, right?

It's like a series now haha. Initial D: Izzy Status.
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I love it cause no one has a clue how much these cars can move, the ignorants look over & think oh just another sedan.
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I love it cause no one has a clue how much these cars can move, the ignorants look over & think oh just another sedan.
lol. The element of surprise man. haha
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You're only 17 though, be careful...the tickets & accidents are not worth it! Got stories for those too, although no accident was my fault, got no tickets for that...just speeding.
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
Well, it's good to know someone's got kills on these cars before.

Just a Q, does a drop greatly affect the acceleration of the car. I know the handling is increased greatly.

i wouldnt call them kills, id call it straight murder lol
the 328i altima 2.5 lancer gts n even the solara would get raped. I got a drop for the looks, i haven't noticed any increase in acceleration though.
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Originally Posted by VQ35 Maxima
you should win against all of those cars listed except the g35. g35 might give you a run for your money lol


Originally Posted by bb4_vtec
the 328 5mt will probably get a good jump off the line but i am confident you'll catch up

you will probably be even with the g35 or ithe G will be ahead by a little

Lancer GTS? 168 horsepower. you do the math.

the altima 2.5s you should walk him easily.
its a 98... the G is his biggest concern
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
Well, it's good to know someone's got kills on these cars before.

Just a Q, does a drop greatly affect the acceleration of the car. I know the handling is increased greatly.
Handling is not increased greatly.

Taken from another forum:

Lowering will indeed make the car "feel different" and you'll perceive it as "better" for your normal driving routine ...where the car is rarely pushed to its handling limits. However, the engineering invloved guarantees that lowering always compromises the suspension geometry to the point where the camber curve is less effective, bump steer increases and tire loads are saturated much more abruptly when speeds increase and the handling limits of the chassis are pushed. Even at normal speeds, handling performance on roads with elevation changes, bumps and wet surfaces worsens as well. Anyone would agree that these things make for a car that handles worse overall, and is further worsened should you not chose to upgrade to better tires as a first step.
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
I got kids at my school taking shots at the TL left and right saying it's "heavy and slow", while I will admit it's not the fastest car, it's definitely not the slowest. To make a long story short I wanna know if I stand a chance against the following;

1) 96 or 98 328i 5-speed MT. With Intake/Exhaust. And I think a drop..? Haven't really paid much attention

2) 05-06 G35 auto. Stock with a drop. I think that's all he's got.

3) 08 Lancer GTS 5MT. All Stock.

4) 06 Altima 2.5. Idk any details about this one yet.

These guys seem to want it the most and I usually just brush it off cause I don't want my insurance going sky high but just for the hell of it, could I race these guys and stand a chance? I got a '04 5at. All Stock.

they say ur car is heavy n slow...lol
tell them to put their money where their mouth is if they think theyre cars are so much faster haha
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Originally Posted by Izzy-Type-S
You're only 17 though, be careful...the tickets & accidents are not worth it! Got stories for those too, although no accident was my fault, got no tickets for that...just speeding.
I feel you man.
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Handling is not increased greatly.

Taken from another forum:

Lowering will indeed make the car "feel different" and you'll perceive it as "better" for your normal driving routine ...where the car is rarely pushed to its handling limits. However, the engineering invloved guarantees that lowering always compromises the suspension geometry to the point where the camber curve is less effective, bump steer increases and tire loads are saturated much more abruptly when speeds increase and the handling limits of the chassis are pushed. Even at normal speeds, handling performance on roads with elevation changes, bumps and wet surfaces worsens as well. Anyone would agree that these things make for a car that handles worse overall, and is further worsened should you not chose to upgrade to better tires as a first step.
wow, you learn something everyday . Thanks man.

BTW, nice G.

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Damn yung money, straight murder? haha that's tight man.
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Don't forget to use the sportshift so you can rev it out lol and keep VSA off! Should be a good race if you launch right.
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
I know where you're coming from, but we're not doing it out in the open. We gotta' few back road spots that are barren at night in Poway, Sabre Springs, and Scripps. My insurance is high enough as it is, so I won't be doing this during the day or when there's a lot of traffic around.

Thanks.

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Perhaps not street racing, but I am sure you are aware of the three high schoolers recently killed in separate accidents in the area as well as the mom on the sidewalk yesterday! most probable cause is inexperienced drivers so just be careful or take it to Qualcom for 1/8 mile drags
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