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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 12:48 PM
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My 2008 TL Type S (6MT with 93,400 miles) has significant hail damage to the whole car and the damage is just over $10,000. All the glass is ok except for the windshield which is cracked in two places and I will be replacing that soon. Everything else works fine and runs perfect.

The car was in great shape before the storm. I just paid it off with clear title in hand.

What do you guys think my car is worth without repairing the hail damage?

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 12:53 PM
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KBB of car - $~10,000?
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About $34.50?

You do realize that that was such a broad question with no pictures whatsoever and very light information right? It's hard for us over the interwebz to evaluate the condition of your car let alone the multitude of variables involved in determining the "value" of a car. Are you selling it?. Trading it in? Private party? Dealer?


"What's it worth" is highly subjective unfortunately.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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lol ya man put some pics up
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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A lot of hail cars can't be repaired paintless. So need to repaint the whole car = $2000-$3000. Add dents repair on top. Plus other damage repair if any (mirrors for instance).

It's easy to grab a car for ~ $5000 less when it got damaged by hail.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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So need to repaint the whole car = $2000-$3000.
way more. its costing me pretty much that to paint a few sections of my TL. (front bumper, hood, fenders, mirrors, side skirts, quarter panel) sure you can get your whole car painted for 2-3k that but it won't last
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 01:36 PM
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way more. its costing me pretty much that to paint a few sections of my TL. (front bumper, hood, fenders, mirrors, side skirts, quarter panel) sure you can get your whole car painted for 2-3k that but it won't last
Gotta shop around more. Ok quality is around $2K, good quality is $3K. I've had friends repaint cars and they all held fine when going with a $3K paintjob. Nobody in their right mind would want a showroom quality repaint on a hail car.

Some shops offer $1K paintjobs, stay clear from these if you intended to keep the car obviously...
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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yea it depends on where ur located too i suppose.. in MTL theres prob a lot of shops i would assume.. here in saint john nb theres literally only 1 shop who can do showroom quality work and the rest are just run of the mill poop shops who don't give a fuck..

gotta pay to play i guess.. In my case i didnt even bother shopping around bcuz I only trust this one shop to do the job right

i do have some rust thats getting taken care of too so that cost a bit to take care of as well
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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Gotta shop around more. Ok quality is around $2K, good quality is $3K. I've had friends repaint cars and they all held fine when going with a $3K paintjob. Nobody in their right mind would want a showroom quality repaint on a hail car.
3k for a full paint job is asking for a decent paint job, at best. It will not even be close to OEM paint. Tthat means they're just masking the car off instead of properly removing parts and repainting. If you're ok with overspray and just overall mediocre work, go for it.

Honestly, to repair a hail damaged car, I'm guessing you're looking to pay 10k to do so. It's ALOT of work. most times hail damaged cars just get written off. Most of the time its not even worth repairing a beat up hood, trunk, doors- they just replace them or reskin them. Not cheap.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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3k for a full paint job is asking for a decent paint job, at best. It will not even be close to OEM paint. Tthat means they're just masking the car off instead of properly removing parts and repainting. If you're ok with overspray and just overall mediocre work, go for it.

Honestly, to repair a hail damaged car, I'm guessing you're looking to pay 10k to do so. It's ALOT of work. most times hail damaged cars just get written off. Most of the time its not even worth repairing a beat up hood, trunk, doors- they just replace them or reskin them. Not cheap.
I've seen 3K paintjob, they're fine. They're obviously not OEM, as I noted, if you want showroom this won't cut it. But you have to be a special kind of person to want to put $10K on a $15K car...
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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I've seen 3K paintjob, they're fine. They're obviously not OEM, as I noted, if you want showroom this won't cut it. But you have to be a special kind of person to want to put $10K on a $15K car...
I wouldn't pay that. But my insurance company would, unless they deem the vehicle a write off. But then they're paying me 15k anyway, lol (which to be honest, if my car had 10k worth of damage, I'd prefer that)
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
3k for a full paint job is asking for a decent paint job, at best. It will not even be close to OEM paint. Tthat means they're just masking the car off instead of properly removing parts and repainting. If you're ok with overspray and just overall mediocre work, go for it.
I agree , shop doing my work is not masking nothing off, its all coming apart. Nothing worse than shitty paint work

but were talking about a hail damaged car which is a whole diff ball game than what I'm in
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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In regards to paint jobs, I've seen some pretty solid 5k-6k Paint jobs. 3k is something I would have sprayed my integra with in Highschool lolol.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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have vultures pick at the car then have insurance pick up the dime and have buddy put custom $5k paint job on for $2k and pocket the rest.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:22 PM
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have vultures pick at the car then have insurance pick up the dime and have buddy put custom $5k paint job on for $2k and pocket the rest.
Also: get flames painted on the side. B****es love flames.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Also: get flames painted on the side. B****es love flames.
thats not how the story goes.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
thats not how the story goes.



ahhhh sharky.. right?
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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That TL looks like shit.. cheap paint job too.. probably paid no more than 2k.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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That TL looks like shit.. cheap paint job too.. probably paid no more than 2k.
Thiddy fo fiddy.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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Cheap paint job for a cheap guy
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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i think its dope!
but wouldnt cheat any one to achieve that
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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I want to...but I can't.
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I want to...but I can't.
pusssaaayyyy
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
thats not how the story goes.
BS. Looks awesome now.

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 03:14 PM
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LMAO, that's actually a vast improvement.
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MS Paint, FTMFW
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Ok we're OT just a tad.

What would you guys pay for my car?? (assuming you were looking to go this route) I know I don't have pics but I can't get any right now because I now live in Tennessee and the storm was in Missouri last week.

Assuming there is nothing else wrong with it besides the obvious... What would you give me?
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Thats a very very broad question bud...

KBB of a clean car with 94K miles is around 14K

The things which would drive the price would be:
1> any mods? Aspec kit? Jpipe/Full Exhaust/Coils/Wheels...am sure you can recoup some money from those mods
2> maintenance, 105K miles service done? whats the condition of the brakes/tires...Not sure on the maintenance for the clutch, but am sure that will affect the price as well.
3> color of the car...am sure you can get slightly more for KBP/RRP (500-1000 more)

Now for the hail damage, how much will it take to fix it? ~5K maybe 6 (guesstimating)

So assuming you are up to date on all maintenance, excluding the 105K service, brakes and tires are decent and do not need replacing anytime soon (no one wants to buy a new car, for them, and spend on service)...

but given all this, I would offer you 5K, maybe 6, tops!

AGAIN this is alllll very very vague, just like the question...but here is my thought process:

6K for the car + 6K to fix hail damage + 2K on maintenance (105K service + other odds and ends) = 14K which is KBB's current value...

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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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I'll give you about $34.50 for a car I can't get a picture of, final offer.
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Originally Posted by gmr19
Ok we're OT just a tad.

What would you guys pay for my car?? (assuming you were looking to go this route) I know I don't have pics but I can't get any right now because I now live in Tennessee and the storm was in Missouri last week.

Assuming there is nothing else wrong with it besides the obvious... What would you give me?
it is worth what ever some one will pay for it.
since it is damaged; you're likely to get low balled, because it is damaged.

some one will be looking for a car to fix up and yours is the perfect candidate.


with the information that is known (about $10k in damages) i would offer you $3-4k and pray to god my body guy doesnt charge me $10k to fix the damages.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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the best thing that you can do, is check KBB.com and edmunds.com/TMV

these sites will give you the best estimates on what your car is worth BEFORE the damage.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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Car is a Type S and is completely stock. Tires are more than 50% on tread and are Michelin Pilot Sports A/S. Timing belt service was completed two months ago. Clutch is good, brakes have about 50% life left. Car is ready to go besides the hail damage.

Again I cannot obtain pictures because it's in a different state right now. I won't be back till May 2nd.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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so, you're asking me to do the work?
GTFO! lol

go to Kelley Blue Book - New & Used Car Price Values and enter in the specs and condition of your car and see the value of it before the damage.

then take in account of the damage.

If i was looking to buy a damaged TL, i'd offer you $3k
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Kbb came out to $14,500 in good condition. I was just wondering if anyone would want a 6 speed Type S for a bargain (ie for about $5k). Hell, they could use it for a beater car, swap out the hood and deck lid for nice used OEM parts for about $600 and it'll look better.

Color is black btw.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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oh so you're trying to sell the car to us?

list it in the black market if you're trying to sell it to us.
there's a checklist that you have to go through in order to list it.
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