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Old 03-06-2005, 03:01 PM
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He was driving a red 2004 Volkswagen R32. Unfortunately, I couldn't test my TL against his ride since I was already running late for a date and he decided to turn in the opposite direction.

I've never heard of this car before. Are they quick? His sure made a lot of noise out of the pipes! Haha! I looked it up on Edmunds and although it's got AWD and 240 hp, it appears to weigh about the same as a TL...which is interesting since it's so tiny.
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R32

I saw the R32 at the Philadelphia Auto Show last year, pretty nice. As far as I know, it replaced the GTI (possible the Golf too) as VW's hatchback car. That's all I know about it.
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Originally Posted by RelentlessOne
I saw the R32 at the Philadelphia Auto Show last year, pretty nice. As far as I know, it replaced the GTI (possible the Golf too) as VW's hatchback car. That's all I know about it.
Well, I didn't even see one for 2005 on Edmunds.
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I heard that they are super fast. I think it might be a good thing that you didn't get a chance to let him dismantle you.
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I heard that they are super fast. I think it might be a good thing that you didn't get a chance to let him dismantle you.
Sh!t, I couldn't care less if I won or lost as long as I know I drove my best. If I lost because I got a poor start or missed a shift, then I'd be pissed.

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Old 03-06-2005, 04:02 PM
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that car will smoke the TL.
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Don't think it would smoke us...it would beat us, but it wouldn't be out right. A Subaru WRX STI...now that would smoke us.
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Its possible for that car to beat a 6MT TL. However, I seriously doubt there it will "smoke" it...

http://www.modernracer.com/vwr32.html

13.56 lbs/hp
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http://www.modernracer.com/acuratl.html
12.9 lbs/hp

oh, it will definitely handle exponentially better, though.
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Originally Posted by RhythmAddict
Its possible for that car to beat a 6MT TL. However, I seriously doubt there it will "smoke" it...

http://www.modernracer.com/vwr32.html

13.56 lbs/hp
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http://www.modernracer.com/acuratl.html
12.9 lbs/hp

oh, it will definitely handle exponentially better, though.
Boy, the 0-60 and 1/4-mile times are almost identical. Basically--and as it should be--it would likely come down to who's the better driver. Thanks for the links!
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The r32 is not as fast as you would expect. For the price and the performance it is not worht it. That is why there are so few around. Tl would beat it.
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a friend of mine has one..... big bucks....

its nice, AWD but its really heavy. its slower then you would think
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the r32 is not that fast, i mean its just about the same performance as the TL. i think its great that the TL performs similar to the r32 because the TL is a much bigger car. the R32 is a small compact ride.
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Originally Posted by jmn4667
Boy, the 0-60 and 1/4-mile times are almost identical. Basically--and as it should be--it would likely come down to who's the better driver. Thanks for the links!
Better driver or better mods? Who knows what tweaks the R32 has? Check out this link for a peek at some of the possible mods and advertised increased performance:

http://www.vf-engineering.com/vw_r32u.htm

Personally. I'm not going to race anyone with my TL on the road. Too many chances for something to go wrong. Heck just a ticket for racing in New Jersey can result in a loss of license. Never mind the increase in insurance rates in the state with the highest insurance rates in the country.
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On a car show on speed channel, they had one that had over 450 hp. I believe it was a twin turbo. The Acura quality is better!!!!
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
I heard that they are super fast. I think it might be a good thing that you didn't get a chance to let him dismantle you.
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Originally Posted by gsxr60097
The r32 is not as fast as you would expect. For the price and the performance it is not worht it. That is why there are so few around. Tl would beat it.

No it’s because they are limited production vehicles. If you guys knew anything about this car or even driven one you would not be bad mouthing it. One of my Car and Driver mags has an article about so I will try to find it and scan it in for you guys.

These cars can be made really fast really easy so don’t always count on it being stock. Also don’t even think about trying to race one in the twisties. The car handles really well.
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Originally Posted by ChuckDu
Better driver or better mods? Who knows what tweaks the R32 has? Check out this link for a peek at some of the possible mods and advertised increased performance:

http://www.vf-engineering.com/vw_r32u.htm

Personally. I'm not going to race anyone with my TL on the road. Too many chances for something to go wrong. Heck just a ticket for racing in New Jersey can result in a loss of license. Never mind the increase in insurance rates in the state with the highest insurance rates in the country.
a few simple mods to that r32, it will gain massive hp. i've sold vw's for quite some time. and yes the r32 is pretty fast, but its not as fast as everyone thinks. the tl will give the r32 a run for its money. stock r32 vs. stock tl 6mt = GOOOOOOD RUN!!! lolz! bring it on r32!
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