That is DEFINITELY price gouging. Heck, if it was legit there wouldnt be only .10 gaps between the grades.

Idiots.

 

On another note, is anyone changing their way of life? I mean, for example, if you have digital cable, have you downgraded to regular cable or even cancelled cable to make more financial room for gas prices? I know I haven't done anything, even though I travel 100 miles a day to and from work. Good thing I work on a military base. Here at Pax River, the prices here are still at $2.59.

 

If you think a station is price gouging. You were instructed to call your local or states District Attorney's office hope this helps. They legally cant change prices untill they get another truck in.

 

I have not changed my life in any way really. I didn't go to the shore with my friends this weekend, that would've been like a 200+ mile drive for me. I think people tend to become more efficient as prices go higher. Such as stopping off at a grocery store on the way home instead of going to one that's in another direction. I now pretty much stay at home after work, my xbox has been used more lately.

My only consolation is that in 2 weeks I'm flying to China for a vacation, so during that time I will not have to fill up the tank. heh.

 

I've already cut back a lot, there isn't much more that I can do. Thankfully, these prices do not hurt my budjet much at all, but is STILL is a mental sting everytime I have to fill up.

I guess the only good news is that I will be spending a lot less in gas in a few weeks because I have just accepted a position that is going to pay me almost $48,000 more per year than my old position, plus the location is half the distance from from my home then my old job was. I think its a no brainer what im going to do.

 

Its really getting kind of ridiculous

Went to school at 8am planning to stop and fill up when I got out of anatomy lab at 6pm. Little did I know that the price of gas woud rise 30cents per gallon in less than a day

Its a good thing med school keeps me studying 24/7 so I have no time to go anwhere where else but class.

 

this is going to turn into a crisis. I can only hope LA will riot over this and make some asshole somwhere is some important position say "hmmm maybe we should stop raising gas prices??" and then it will go down. But chances are its not going down. Until something rediculous like LA rioting. Or bush decides to take over the rest of the middle east, which is fine with me. Fucking Saudi royalty bastards, every last one of them has 2 palaces, and they want more.

 

IF any of you guys live in Texas and think that prices are being gouged at a local station you can report the station here: http://www.oag.state.tx.us/

 

around my house in LA . 87 gas is 2.95. ............ 91 gas is 3.15
i heard in atlanta GA. 91 gas is 5.15 to 6 bucks now

 

howard911s its true, one station was charging 5.87 for regular.

 

Folks, other than $3.25+ price gouging, the price of fuel is not lining the oil refineries' pockets. It is a correlation beginning at the crude oil market price.

 

just filled up my gas about an hour ago. Price over here in Jersey is about $3.19/gal for 93. Talked to the guy at the station and he said that i'm lucky i filled up now, b/c in about 4 hours he has to raise prices again. He also said not to be surprised (for all you Jerseyans) if it hits $4.00 by January.

 

I did the math and decided not to worry too much about it. Sure, it annoys me, but it won't have a huge impact for me. If you assume that you will put in 15 gallons when you fill the tank, and that you'll fill the tank 3 times a month (36 times a year), then the difference between $3.00 a gallon and $4.00 a gallon works out to a bit under $600 a year. While that's not chump change, certainly, it's not a devastating sum, at least not for the average TL owner.

Of course, if you have to fill up more than 3 times a month (as the user quoted above surely must), the number would increase unless you can find cheaper gas. I picked the three fillups a month number based on the idea of commuting 15 to 20 miles each way on a daily basis. That's my commute distance and I usually fill up two or three times a month, depending on how much I drive on the weekends.

 

I just heard that the Governor of GA has declared a state of emergency and frozen gas prices. Some gas stations have closed down and not selling any at all.

I didn't know that gas stations could raise prices every few hours. I thought they couldn't raise them until they got a new shipment in.

 

The only thing that normally stops gas stations from raising prices is if they run out of numbers to stick up on the sign listing the prices

 

Last night I saw a brand new tl get hit by a woman that was trying to get to a pump before the regular price was changed from 2.71 to 3.21.. She lost control and hit a 1 month old tl...

 

I was around for the last energy fiasco in this country and recall the run up to it and the major indicators.

We've been building up to this for the last 3 years or so.

There hasn't been a new refinery built in this country for 25 years.
The refineries we've got have been running at or near capacity for some time and the US has been importing gasoline from overseas because supplies can't keep up with demand. That's part of what's driving the cost of fuel up in Europe.

Like 30 years ago, this country developed a love affair with big, and thirsty, vehicles. And just before the bottom fell out the last time there was the big horsepower wars between the then big 3.

The last time, the Arabs put the squeeze on crude oil supplies. This time it's a constrained supply caused by demands from other industrial countries, mostly China. But the effect is the same.

Now factor in a natural disaster in the heart of an area that generates a third of this countries refined petroleum, with no excess capacity available elsewhere to take up the slack, and this is the result.

Bottom line is that prices for petroleum products aren't going to go back down until supply starts to exceed demand again. And if supplies can't be substantially increased, then demand is going to have to drop. One way or another.

And the best is yet to come. Winter is around the corner and the price of home heating oil and natural gas is going to be nasty. For those in the snow belt they better pray that this winter is a mild one.

An economic recession as the result of this is a strong possiblity, because a whole lot of dollars are going to be diverted to paying for gas, heating oil, and natural gas. Whether it happens or not will depend a lot on how the Fed responds to soften the impact of these price spikes. The economy in this country really took a hit the last time this happened.

 

Well Said...

 

well if thats the case, it sure doesn't happen here. prices routinely jump 10 - 20 cents in a few hours. Yesterday most stations increased there prices by over a dollar in a span of 6 hours.



Very well said indeed.

 

I tried all over Alpharetta last night to get gas at 7 stations and came home empty with a glowing fuel light. Had to drive my wifes Pilot in to the office today and park the TL in the garage until the lines subside and I can fill the tank. We had some Citgo stations charging $4.99 a gallon and they had 8-10 cars in line. What a bunch of idiots. Like I told my wife, the soccer moms will probably all get together today and brag about who paid the most for gas, like it's some sort of status symbol to see who was able to spend the most
Geez, I thought it was bad watching them clean out the grocery store every time there is a threat of 1/4 inch of snow. Now it's gas.

 

My wife's '04 TL has been running on regular unleaded for the last 2000miles. I know its something that shouldn't be done with the 3.2L V6. Definitely down the road there could be lost performance from the "dirty" gasoline but the car is getting the same MPG as running premium. Heavy City = 22MPG while our roadtrip from Central NJ to Harrisburg, PA the TL averaged 29MPG with the average speed of 55MPH. Not to shabby on good old regular unleaded.

 

If you think that Saudi's is your problem, you'd better think again. Not to mention how many palaces Bush and his buddies already have and can build... We already know how much oil we've got from Iraq and in what direction oil prices are going even without Katrina. So if you want to pay $15/gallon - yes, go ahead with the invasion. Just don't forget to enlist yourself, your family and your friends, because Army is busy trying to get out of Iraq crap - without much success!

 

Yep I don't doubt that one bit about the soccer mom's.

I saw even worse than that last night, one station was charging 2.899 for regular and the one right across the street was charging 3.999 for regular, do you think the 3.999 station was empty? Hell no. A line was there just like the station across the street. Its one thing to get ripped off, its another to choose to get ripped off. I just don't get it.

I refused to pay that much, I finally got "lucky" and ended up filling my TL at Kroger for 3.199/gallon for premium. whoopie!

 

On the PA turnpike, the gas stations can only change their prices once a week.

on the regular roads that I travel I see them normally change once a week as well. The change of gas prices so frequently just means that the gas stations are speculating how much their gas is worth at their location and what people are willing to pay. So in effect, it's price gouging.

Does anyone know anything about Lukoil? A lot of our Mobil gas stations switched over to Lukoil. I usually get Mobil as there's only Sunoco and Wawa as competitors.

 

That's what I can't understand - I saw a gas station with $3.48/g and another one - literaly accross the road - with $3.75 (it was empty at the moment, though). Ended up getting it for $3.16 (missed $3.09 - should've stopped!)

 

If you live in NJ and want to complain about a gas station: http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/weights/county.htm

 

Last night I was at a Mobil charging $3.02 for super. People would drive up, see that they claimed to have only super, and go next door to Crown to pay $3.16 for regular. I don't get it. I can understand not going DOWN in octane, but why not go up in octane if it's cheaper?

 

W/ this whole Katrina ordeal, gas prices are gonna' skyrocket. I think the only good bush is gonna' do during both terms is come down on gas stations gouging customers, I'll believe it when I see it. I never really thought gas prices could ever effect how often I drive my car, but, here it is, i'm gonna get really good at riding a bike.

 

Lukoil is a Russian oil company, which purchased Getty Oil.

 

Everyone needs to stop running out and filling up every car you own even if you just filled up 2 days ago. This is one problem that is causing prices to skyrocket. Prices are controlled by the demand and with the demand extremely high right now these stations are gonna milk every last dollar out the what they have right now. There is a problem getting gas to the stations, if everyone would calm down and wait until you need to fill up before going to the station then we wouldn't have this panic situation. You're not going to save THAT much by filling up now. Prices are going to continue to be high for the foreseeable future. Filling up today in hopes that by the time you need gas again next week they'll be back down is wishful thinking.

 

Gas Price is now $3.31 here in NJ for Premium. I filled my TL up today and cost me $49 and some change.

 

Right on the mark.

This sort of behavior leads to spot shortages of fuel. Then, when the media gets a hold of it ,and blows it out of all proportion, that leads to more panic buying making things even worse and likely resulting in even higher prices.

The long lines and "shortages" that occurred back in the 70's were mostly caused by this sort of behavior not any real shortage of fuel.

 

I'm in montreal, Canada. Payed for 1litre (i beleive there are 4litres in 1 gallon) for 1.25US that would be 5$ the gallon. 100$ CAN for my tank of G35C

 

That's exactly it...talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy!

Saw anywhere from $3.29 - $3.86 for premium coming to work today...good thing I filled up Tuesday for $2.89 (which I thought was outrageous ). Thankfully, for 90% of what I'm getting into this weekend, someone else is driving...of course where chipping in $5 for gas used to be helpful, it isn't worth $hit right now...

 

This morning it was 3.03 for premium and on my way home it had risen to $3.49 for premium. Glad I decided to check Sam's out where it was $3.02 even though I forgot my member card . Its crazy that I am excited about filling up for just over $3 when every where else is 50 cents more.

 

Not true. They can raise price at any time based on the wholesale price of gas. They can price the gas at what it costs them to replace it. They are probably on the phone every hour to their wholesalers these last few days. Supply has dropped and demand has increased due to the knee jerk reaction of everyone filling up because of fears of shortages. This all equals higher prices. Supply and demand will stabilize in a short while and prices will go back to "normal".

 

I made the mistake of driving past Sam's and going 3 blocks to a store to get a drink and by a lottery ticket. When I got back to Sam's less than 10 minutes later the price had jumped 11 cents

At least it was only $3.16 for premium in Fort Worth. This was not a good week to take a 400 mile trip.

 

In Toronto prices are $1.29/litre Canadian, which is about $4.00/ gallon USD.

 

I just saw this on News12:
http://www.news12.com/NJ/topstories/article?id=154916

Incase the link does't work or you need a login here it is:
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Middlesex County keeping an eye on gas stations to avoid price gouging

(09/01/05) OLD BRIDGE - Drivers are breathing easier once they realized the Middlesex County government is taking steps to avoid price gouging.

Inspectors from the Middlesex County Department of Weights and Measures were out in Old Bridge Thursday making sure owners do not raise the price of gas more then law allows them. Owners are allowed to raise prices only once in a 24 hour period. If they are caught violating the law, they put themselves at risk of fines of $100 per octane, per pump.

Wildstein says many owners are hostile that they can’t raise prices when they want, but others know it’s more profitable then paying the fines.
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Ha! I saved .26 cents more then you did, in Summit NJ I paid 3.05 for Premium. Damn is this what it has come to.