mrbrett

My friends forced me to go to the track and race my car, cause my friend with a del-sol with a gsr swap, insisted that his car was faster (which I didn't think so). I never been to the track and didn't really want to go, but after them calling a pussy for twenty minutes, I went. After a few runs I pulled my best time of 14.66@97.73. I thought I did pretty well for my first time at the track. I was wondering if a full tank of gas makes a difference. I had a full tank when I went, what, if any should my time drop with less gas in the tank? I need to work on my launch I think though... any advise would be appreciated

jchcmax

Peer pressure sucks! I would recommend practicing the launch, reaction time,and shifting-if you have a manual. Not bad of a time.

gitRplyr09

...well.............did you beat the del-pos? ... i mean del-sol!!

subinf

i always thought it was del-slow...

mrbrett

ah yea he was running 16.5s and higher... pretty funny, then he pulled a low 16 at about 88 miles an hour. His exuse was that he had an exhaust leak... a likely exuse...

Also one of my roomates was there and he has a WRX, beat him every time I raced him, and even when another friend drove his car... hahaha

mrbrett

actually it has a GRS motor with a type r tranny, IHE... still slow though...

zeezz

wow 14.66. not bad!! 6mt i'm assuming?

mrbrett

Yes, its a six speed.

GoBig

Was it at Fontana? What's a good night to watch "regular" cars?

cM3go

pretty damn good for a stock TL

TheOne305

conditions must have been good for ya.Your time sounds about right .work on the launch and you'll get your times down alittle lower.

Seattle Cl-S

The launch is key. Get your 60' times as close to 2.0 as possible. It's tough w/ FWD. Reaction time doesn't matter. Your time doesn't start until you cross the starting line. The car next to you may beat you across the line though... As a very general rule, every 100 lbs of weight reduction is about 0.1 sec in the 1/4. Fuel weighs quite a bit. Go to the track w/ about 1/8 tank. Lower front tire pressure to about 26 psi and raise rear up to 40 psi. If you have adj shocks, put them on the firmest settings.

mrbrett

LACR, Weds is a good night to go and run your car cause its not as busy as Friday night. Friday night is the best to come and watch cars... although there was a modded porsche turbo there last night, a funny car that was running 9s and a chevelle running 10s...

subinf

i just give the del sols a hard time because one of the other mechanics i work with drives on and is constantly working on it, although it never seems to get any faster, i guess just a nickname for his car.

F23A4

Same deal at Etown: Wed is a good less-busy 'Test N Tune' night but on Friday, there are more folks racing than watching; Friday Street Night's staging lanes resemble rush hour traffic behind road closures.

mrbrett

I always make fun of him and call his car a miata or a VW cabrio, and I tell him to not forget his pink scarf when going out...

PeterUbers

iTrader: (1)

The new TL is slower than the CL-S and TL-S ... stock Type-S's were frequently running 14.6's-14.8's in the 5AT trim... the 6MT Type S always had a problem launching, but I've seen numbers (stock) in the low 14's.

HotBoyinDaAcura

I like that i wonder what my TL S will run

mrbrett

Well I'll take a tenth slower in the quarter mile for a 3rd gen over a second gen any day...

TheOne305

WHAT U TALKIN ABOUT WILLIS.
04 TL 6MT runs low 14's
here ya go http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...le%5fid=241561
http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=241561

MR1

Be nice, don't hate...it's in the family...I have a stock 93 Si. Slow, heavy, fun, gets a lot of attention from a lot of people.

Might keep my delsol forever but must admit that it has less than 200 miles over last 3 months I've had m TL. Fits in a different market segment.

GoBig

Nitrotiger from this board did the 1/4 in 14.2 with a stock '04 TL (K&N drop-in doen't count) (https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...147#post779147) A factor that really effects these stock TL's are the stock tires, they suck! If you change out the tires to a high performance tire, times should drop .2 to .4 seconds (no sitting and spinning).

I'm not doubting the CL-S and TL-S were fast, however, you can't say they were faster. There just haven't been too many people taking the '04s and '05s to the track (yet).

F23A4

I think Peter is talking from experience: he has a TL 5AT and had a TL-S. (Not to mention, he has 5.5G Maxima for some add'l perspective. )

In my own experience with the 04 TL 5AT and 00 3.2TL-P, the 04 really didnt feel much faster than the 00 TL-P I rented on several occassions. Caveat: This is just a butt dyno assessment; I havent run either at the track. I may need to test drive a TL-S for some perspective.

That said, I hope some of you TL guys come to the track (Etown). Watching riced out Civics and Tegs run the quarter gets old VERY fast.

Pro Stock John

Did you have VSA on?

Pro Stock John

Also, what was your 60ft, about a 2.3 or a 2.4?

It's tricky launching anything at the track, but a FWD with stock tires will be a bit of a challenge.

mrbrett

No. I left it on one time down the track and it was embarrasing, it was a high 15 or so. Much faster with the VSA off.

mrbrett

2.4

LessisBestmakingendsmeet

Nice runs AT THE TRACK. Instead of the weekly, I raced an E55 thread.

Pro Stock John

Coupled with a 2.4 60ft time that makes a lot of sense. I have done a lot of drag racing and the best I think I might get out of my 6mt tl is a 2.05-2.10... that would equate to like a 13.9-14.1 in the right conditions.

Generally speaking it's better to have a little wheelspin rather than any bogging.

Where you shifting at 6800?

Thanks for sharing the results.

CedNBHTL

need proof!!!!!!...............show your time slips buddy

Pro Stock John

I believe him, no worries.

Were you gettin big wheelspin off the line or launching real easy?

hadboosttroy

I don't care for del sol's either, but a del sol with a b18c1, c5 tranny, and bolt ons will smoke any tl. Driven right it is a low 13 second car, and well the tl is not. Your friends car has issues or he has issues, one or the other.

mrbrett

Well let me say that he is on his second GSR motor, and it is the same slow as the last one... second. A GSR is what a mid to low 15 sec car stock? They weigh 2655 and a del sol weighs 2522 pounds (probably more with the GSR motor)... anyway, it weighs about a 130 pounds less. With an intake and exhaust, and a bit better gearing, how does this knock of 2 seconds in the quarter? Answer: It doesn't, he at best should be running a mid 14... not low 13s!

mrbrett

Well droping the clutch in this car involves a bunch of wheel hop and some shame thrown in... So my best method was reving to about 4000 RPM and modulating the clutch out really quickly... which produced a good amount of wheel spin, but not a terrible amount. The stock tires suck.

I'm going to install my AEM CAI on Sunday... and next time when I go to the track. I will take out my spare, and make sure I am at an 1/8 of a tank (17 gallons of fuel is pretty heavy) and maybe I can realistically knock off a couple of tenths... hopefully.

hadboosttroy

Keep telling yourself that, what would I know, I've only dealt with hybrids since before I could drive, and have seen these times pulled And if this guy is on his second motor, I'm betting it is a piss poor driver. I love our TL but acceleration wise it couldn't hold a candle to a del sol like you describe.

mrbrett

Well, then explain to me logically how a 2500 pound car that puts out 150-160 HP to the wheels could run low 13s...