duluoz

i've got 105k on the clock and have been soliciting everywhere from 50 to over 100 excess whp/tq since ~35k or so -- (my last big power bump was ~80k) and i haven't had any serious issues -- granted it's my custom to do a turbo upgrade every 25k or so (just as preventative maintenance of course ). needless to say i have been very happy overall with how it's performed/held up.

when i pulled my stock turbo ~50k (after 20k or so of max boost @ stg. 2), it was running perfectly. inspection showed a bit of stress typical to older ihis, but still solid enough to punt along; afaik it is still chugging away in another car to this day. some guys get well into the 100k on the stock unit, some fail earlier; my philo has been why push it? sell the old to buy the new, and let the ft/lbs roll.
the oil feed line issue you mention is more of a paranoia thing imho. however, it is an easy remedy -- there is simply a banjo filter to pull if you wish to remove the inner screen; i for one have not, since i follow a pretty standard dino oci despite the mods, and every time i've checked my filter was virgin.
as for the # of failures, it's definitely not something to push you off of the car. and if you were to fall into that small unfortunate margin, depending on the nature, turbo replacement can be a pretty cheap fix most of the time.

as i understand it the 'stumbling' or 'stuttering' is a product of shitty stock throttle mapping of certain MYs. if i ever had any of it (and i don't recall any), it was gone with my first reflash.

i have never heard any significant reports of random cels; this car is pretty stingy with the cels, basically if you get one, it comes along with a good reason.

concerns i'd have picking up a used xt are mileage and of course previous mods/flogging/maintenance. it's been demonstrated that you can not tq brake this trans, period -- if it even smelled like the last guy did it once i wouldn't touch the car. also a few head gaskets are popping up on some of the ej255s getting on in miles -- not epidemic like the older gens, but not unheard of either. and our pistons notoriously won't handle a bad tune, so these are probably the big things to consider of these cars' previous lives before you pull the trigger.

hope that helps some

again, apologies sonnick for the tangent

mazdaspeed3God

Modded 7th gen Accord V6 manual has no chance against the 370z if both drivers are good. He would have smoked you if raced from dig. From roll he will have the advantage also. There's no comparison.

However the 1st gen G35 vehicles are completely junk and slow.. you can beat them easily.

Dave_B

Definitely.

nova_G

True. But we all know the MS3's demon powers can make anything go fast all it needs to do is take out the boost cut and give some of its demon powers to the other car. But you know this already

Sonnick

Really? Now you're gonna come in here and junk my thread?

If you read my post, you would know he weighs about 250 and had a 200lb passenger. I tip the scales @ 150. With 370s dynoing in the 270-280whp range, it makes perfect sense considering I dyno'd @ 255. Take into account both cars weigh the same without passengers. Yet add 250+200 = 450lbs in his car. The difference is 300lbs. That would account for about 2-3 cars. He was on my bumper. Without his passenger he would still have about 100 more lbs in the car than I do, and should be about 1 car length ahead from 1st to the top of 4th.

He is a good driver, the weight difference is the only reason I pulled. It makes sense, especially considering gearing is very similar.

AND...just to be sure. I had another run with a 370z 6MT before this one and he got a half second headstart and pulled about 3 cars. He was passengerless and about my size.

SatinSilverAV6

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Lay off the crack. Stick with the weed.

Majofo

MS3Troll

Sonnick

If your grammar were correct it should have been "complete" junk, not completely.

Cute troll
That would be sweet! Texas is a long way lol.

Go back to the track! 106mph trap is very good! Too bad you need at least 108+ to beat an MS3

F23A4

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Tread carefully or a vacation from Acurazine may result.

Sonnick

See attempt #2

I do like MS3s, but you make it seem as if they are godly. Underrated? Perhaps, yes I understand that. But underrated to the extent you give is hardly believable. They do sound really good though

Majofo

alexSU

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^

sonnick, are you getting richies v3 jpipe by any chance? I forget if you have the v2 or v1 jpipe from him? i want to know if there is a difference between my atlp v2 jpipe/race pipe vs the rv6 v3 jpipe

whoa lol that's a lot of jpipes in my last statement!

Sonnick

It's ok Alex, we know you like the pipe :gheyfight Lol jp.

I have the V1. I hope to be getting the V3, but probably not until the fall. I think Richie dyno'd the ATLP V2 compared to his V3 and said the V3 dyno'd a bit more. You'd have to ask him though.

I know there's a big difference between the RV6 V1/2 and the V3. Sean said when he went from the RV6 to the ATLP it was night and day. So I can't imagine the V1 to V3!!

nova_G

LOL that's the funniest smiley i've ever seen

Monte TLS,MAX

I know it is, but you like to roll. Just think of the many hwy runs you could have on the way here.....hehe!

Honestly with this heat and humidity down here right now its not worth going to the track...

I fear the mighty MS3.....

Sonnick

Lol true. I like to dig too, I just don't get as many opportunities to. I get nervous at a light if I'm next to someone I think I'm gonna run. My adrenaline starts going nuts and I feel like I'm gonna mess up, although usually I don't launch too bad. All my really good launches seem to be when I'm just doing it for the hell of it

mazdaspeed3God

I'm sorry I meant to say 1st gen G35 Coupe is a slow junk, not the Sedan version.

Majofo

mazdaspeed3God

If you are referring to the 370z, no, it is a little faster than the stock MS3. 370z is an exception because it has very good gearing, unlike many others i.e. Honda Accord or TL.

And you cannot keep up with the 370z unless he was just cruising. You make it sound like your car is some super car or something. It's not. If driven right without the passengers he should pull you by multiple bus lengths.

Majofo

multiple bus lengths..

mazdaspeed3God

7th gen Honda Accords are not that fast as you think. The 370z should pull them by a train length but I didn't want to go that far, so I used the terms "bus lengths".

nova_G

Hey F23A4 do you have that ticket for his vacation from acurazine yet?

mazdaspeed3God

^ I edited the post when Majofo was replying.

Majofo

I vote for ban..

TylerT

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I vote for a ban as well.

nova_G

+3 on the ban this guy needs to zoom zoom his way out of here

Sonnick

Actually, the Accord/TL 6MT has very good gearing for it's powerband. Keywords here. For the powerband of the J series, it has desirable gearing. It's actually VERY similar to the 370z, so how could the 370z have "very good gearing" and the Accord/TL have poor gearing?

And you're right, he was just cruising

Have you seen my dyno thread? 255whp with a steady increase to redline and a flat (while not abundant), torque curve. The 370s aren't very torquey due to their high revs, much like the HRs. My powerband planes off at about 6400RPM and stays even to the 6800 redline. The 370 revs to 7500 and I'm sure makes it's peak power around 7200.

Like I've said several times the 370 makes around 275whp stock. He had a 200lb passenger, which would simulate about a ~15whp difference. Same weight and similar gearing with similar power = good race.

Oh, and since you're always bashing the Accord/TL gearing and powerband, your 'beloved' MS3 hits peak power @ what, 5200RPM? Why is the redline so much higher if it was so flawlessly designed?

I'll even get it on video for ya pal. But by then, your stay at the 'AZine inn' might be over...If you'd like I could email it to you

You're also right about another thing...I think my Accord is a supercar. No, really.

I'm going to the track tomorrow. Hopefully I'll post some good times/ETs in my supercar.

SatinSilverAV6

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They basically run the same 1/4 mile times. You might want to do some research 1st.

TylerT

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When I test drove the MS3, I did a couple highway pulls in 3rd gear .. at about 6000RPM felt like the turbos turned off.

Sonnick

Compared to your AV6 6MT w/CAI, how did it feel?

Dave_B

The turbo on the MS3/MS6 end the fun at ~5500rpms. After that, power drops like an anvil.

Vasher

I'll start off by saying I believe you beat him...

The difference in weight between a 370 and a G37 is about 350 lbs.
Z- 0-60 in 4.7s, 13.3 @ 106 1/4
G- 0-60 in 5s, 13.5 @ 105 1/4 (I've seen better numbers than Motortrend's for both cars stock)

350 lbs does not make that big of a difference.

Nah, he needs a driver mod.


Different driver, different circumstances. However, even with an additional 350 lbs (or just 300), the result wouldn't have been that much different.

You beat your friend, not his car.

That's part of racing though. Anybody can buy/build a quick car, but can they drive it?

Nice kill.

Slow03Maxima

There was a 370Z at the 1/4 mile track last time I was there. It was hot and high DA and everybody was running slow, but he was running high 13s in the 103-104 trap range. Even I was beating him by almost a second and a few MPH.

Very nice Sonnick! Can't wait to get some runs with you one day

Funny how MS3troll is so hung up on how fast his car is, but would get his doors blown off by my little granny car...

TylerT

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It was awhile ago and I had a passenger in the MS3, but I would say my Accord felt stronger after 6000RPM.

It must be the torques, but it did pull pretty hard midrange.

alexSU

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+4 on ban.


Vasher, welcome to the forum!

pimpin-tl

Actually depends on the model. But the 2003-2004 350Z base was lighter than the 370z base.

But either way, the 370z can run 12s stock in the 1/4 and as high as 108 mph traps. Per the OPs sig, he runs no where near that. So either the guy can't drive, or the weight was a major factor in this. The 370z should easily beat any accord that IS NA without FI or NOS it shouldn't be a issue.

Sonnick

Yes, they can run 12s in PERFECT conditions with the best launch/shifting ever. My 1/4 time was with I/Jpipe and with a sem-decent 60'. Under perfect conditions my car could've went 13.7. With my new mods and a great DA/launch, should be 13.5 at least.

The 370z IS faster. It was a matter of the big weight difference that there was in this particular situation. I will get a video for you guys. Hopefully it will be from the outside with no passengers. The outcome should be different.

Monte TLS,MAX

Sonnick you should remove your times in your signature until you run at the track again so that you wont have doubters, because the 1st thing most people look at are your times not your mods!

Dave_B

I'll just say we all hope for the best with our cars. There's always "would have, could, should have", but the reality is most of us haven't. It's rare you get a perfect launch in perfect DA conditions. There's always something that doesn't quite work out. I know my G can go way quicker than 14.3s, but it hasn't yet. You could strap on 26" slicks to your Accord, yank a 1.8 60' and go 13.4s easy, but you haven't. Just saying.

Sonnick

If there was a clapping smiley, I'd use it lol. You're 100% correct. I always hope for the best, but also say "It should've or could've" a lot. There's a difference. It's annoying that I keep saying that (to myself at least).

My friend texted me saying he ran his boy with an '09 WRX with E/DP/tune and was right next to him and gaining slightly at higher speeds. That's impressive. The VQ might have broken in a bit better now. That's ok, he made sure to say we are going to have a rematch haha.

Vasher I agree with you to a certain extent. However, 350lbs in the same car is a big difference. If you were to ride in any car with just a driver and you it's going to be much quicker than if you throw a 350lb person in the back seat. It's physics. Comparing the G37 to 370z, while good as it sounds, is not the same as comparing the same car in the same situation with 350lbs extra.

Monte...in my sig it says what mods I had for that run!! Oh, and I did go back and ran slower I'm so used to my car running in sea level or better conditions, that when it's hot it really hurts. No wonder I feel such a difference from night/daytime.