djn

I have a 2004 TL and I just replaced my fog light bulbs with these -- they are awesome!

http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-L...s-no-14383.htm

Transforms stock "girly man" fog lamps into "light up a stadium" fog lamps. Install took about 10 min. I would recommend them. They give off an intense, exotic yellow light. In addition to looking very cool, they are very effective on dark rain soaked roads.

Make sure you get the 9006 or HB4 (they are the same).

Happy motoring

aGenKa

you got any pics?

welcome to the forum

cparris

(Welcome to the forum!)

xristos

I wonder how the yellow light merges with the white light from the HID?

I prefer both of them white lights, but the pics, if any, might convince me.

Pics please!

integr89

Good luck with the PIAA bulbs... I had a pair of them a couple of years back for my last car (00 corolla) and they blew within 4 months. I never touched the bulb, and I was VERY careful at installing them. Frankly I would tell people to avoid PIAA's - way overpriced for their worth. Just my .02 though. Enjoy them!

EmuMessenger

For years now, we get these threads and the poster, new or otherwise, should know the first question is going to be for pics.

djn

I will get a picture up -- give me a day or two

SSMTL04

i had piaa superwhites for my other car (99 accord ex sedan)...they lasted forr a long time...like 2 years

cvajs

55w ??!! that's a headlight bulb.

i have not looked at oem fog bulb, but my guess is they are not 55w.

can anyone confirm the amp draw of a oem fog bulb?

cM3go

sylvania silverstars, OEM wattage, lasts a long time






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http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96294

cvajs

seems that sylvania is up there in bulb technolgy, and i've seen sylvania be deployed in most commercial lighting applications.

however, i'm partial to the Philips Blue Vision bulbs (very efficient and durable bulbs).

kosh2258

Yes, the fog light bulbs are just good old HB4/9006 headlight bulbs. Foglights are defined by the beam pattern - wide dispersion close to the vehicle, sharp top cutoff -, not the wattage.

I've swapped my stock bulbs out for Silvania SilverStar 9006 bulbs so the color is a closer match to the HID's. They work just fine.

The PIAA claim of 55W = 110W output is pure urban legend and is totally impossible. It's pure visual slight of hand.

1995hoo

There were a number of weird grammatical errors in that advert. I am always suspicious whenever I find that.

cvajs

i thought DOT had some standards for max lumens for passenger vehicles??

as for that "55w" part, i thought the website was just saying you get a total of 110w in the twin pack they sell.


as for 55w = 110w comparison is not impossible, that is very doable if the 55w puts out 2x the lumens of 110w bulb (or, half the power for same lumens), means 55w is 2x more efficient than 110w.

wouldn't be nice if the windshield was a polarizing filter....

djn

OK, here is a photo -- kind of difficult to photograph lights. The one from the side shows the color best.

http://www.ofoto.com/PhotoView.jsp?&...d=254419119103

te3point5

I think that because the package was originally in Japanese, the translation will come across funny.


The Sylverstars are my fav too, but the Philips blue vision are great too. I would definitely go with either of these two if you are looking for a dependable, OEM quality bulb.

The PIAA Xtreme white would be the closest match to your headlight bulbs in color, but since the headlight is a projector, it would be difficult to match colors anyway.

I like the PIAA Ion yellow too, but it will sometimes give off a rainbowy effect. The bulbs I like best for yellow are Hella. They are a really deep yellow, similar to the foglights of some lexus', and the 1st gen TL's

kosh2258

This is the wording from the website and has been PIAA's claim to fame for some time.
They say their DOT compliant Superwhites are 55W = 85W.

But as you say...

DOT does have a maximum lumen output standard. PIAA bulbs sold here include a little sticker saying the are DOT compliant therefore their claim of 55W = 85W output can't possibly be true without exceeding the allowed lumen output. Yet they claim compliance. Can't be both ways. And their 55W = 110W above is even more outragous.

And you can only get x amount of light out of y amount of electricity.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...uperwhite.html

As I said, an urban legend.

dv8ing

looks the same to me

Dvus555

djn

My bad photographer skills probably do not do justice. I can tell you that in comparison to the stock bulbs, they have a yellow tint and are much brighter. I don't know about watts and lums and all of that technical stuff but I can tell you that they are noticably brighter and light up the road better than the stock lights.

caball88

i had similar piaas a few years back. they were called super plasma bulbs. i paid about the same as that site(100 bucks). the light output was pretty good and the color was perfect(slight purple), like an HID bulb. but looking back on it, i wouldn't pay that much for a halogen bulb again. they did last about almost 3 years tho.

J RIDE 81

$115 for what! Is it really worth that kind of money for such a small difference?

Aquineas

On a side note related to this, have you ever taken a good look at a motherboard manual? Even the "big-name" brands such as Asus or Abit are filled with these kinda things..

Aquineas

For those of you who got the Silverstars, there are several different models (from their site):

• 9006
• 9006ST Silverstar High Performance Halogen Upgrade: The Look of HID: Whitest, Brightest
• 9006XV XtraVision Halogen Upgrade: Up to 20% Brighter
• 9006CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal
• 9006LL Long Life Halogen Upgrade: Lasts one and a half times longer

I'm guessing the 9006ST's are the ones to get?

bmduncan

yes, the 9006 STs are the Silverstars.

Has anyone tried a 9005 conversion in their fogs yet?

cvajs

"SilverStar" is one model of halogen bulb they carry. the others are not SS, just other models of halogen.

Philips has their CrystalVision bulbs which are same color as the SS's, but i cannot easily find their lumen output specs...

cvajs

this link is very good info, however, i disagree that the color of the bulb makes no diff to driver. it does because human eyes are more sensitive to various parts of the visual spectrum.

you may react faster if a whiter light reflects off a critter than a less-white bulb. i don't know if this holds true or not (the whiter part that is, it may just be that yellow is better) for human eye responses....

templeowls

are these good prices for the Silverstar? Which one is for the 04 TL fog light?

.H1 ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

.H3 ST High Performance Halogen Capsule
$22.49

.H4 ST High Performance Halogen Capsule
$22.49

.H7 ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

880ST High Performance Halogen Capsule
$22.49

893ST High Performance Halogen Capsule
$22.49

9003ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

9004ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

9005ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

9006ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

9006XSST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

9007ST High Performance Halogen Twin Pack
$44.98

H4651ST High Performance Halogen Sealed Beam
$22.49

H4656ST High Performance Halogen Sealed Beam
$22.49

H4666ST High Performance Halogen Sealed Beam
$22.49

H6024ST High Performance Halogen Sealed Beam
$22.49

H6054ST High Performance Halogen Sealed Beam
$22.49

need4spd

Here is a photo with yellow 9006 bulbs (not yellow ion which are a washed out yellow):



The original thread with them in it is:

http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showt...5&page=2&pp=25

The link to the photo album that shows comparisons of left to right with the standard fog and yellow fog installed at the same time is:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?i...12&mode=invite

With the yellow, you can tell a reall differnece than the HID and it is not washed out.

Note, sometimes image station photos do not load when linked, visit the site to see images.

cvajs

some info to back what i say above:

http://www.autolamps-online.com/howwhy/seeingcentre.htm

djn

You will have to make that judgement call yourself J Ride. For me, I live in dark rainy Seattle so $115 for significant foul weather lighting improvement is a bargain. Someone living in CA or AZ or another fair weather state may not make the same judgement.

cvajs

some neat FAQ's

http://www.nam.lighting.philips.com/us/support/

Stev's

I just bought 8500k, 80w fog lights, 9006's. Anyone put in bulbs of this wattage and had any problems? What's the max wattage an 04 5AT can support? I know they can support 55w, but 80? I need help...

o4Komodo

iTrader: (2)

Holy crap ressurection.
Did you buy an HID bulb? 0.o

Stev's

I finally installed my new fog lights, and they were 80w bulbs. So far, so good, no problems with them. Just wanted to let you all know that 80w wasn't too high a wattage.

avs007

According to the service manual, the fuse for the fogs, is 20A. That means the fog circuit was designed to continuously pass 240W without danger. So that would translate to 120W per side. So the wiring should be fine. Only issue would be the headlight housing taking the heat.

Stev's

Good to know. Thanks for the heads up.