Mansa24

I took my stock 2006 TL 5AT to the track last night, Capitol Raceway in Croton, MD. My gf accidentally threw away my time slips, but this is what I remember from my slips:

1st run: 15.3@ 93.x mph with a 2.4x 60’
2nd run: 15.3@93.x mph with a 2.4x 60’ - VSA off and front tire pressure lower to 30psi

They were pretty much the same exact runs. I expected more, but not too disappointed.

My track prep was removing everything from trunk including spare tire and only having quarter tank of gas. I figure if I can get my 60 foot time down to about 2.2x I could get into the 14s. I pre-loaded the engine at about 1800-2000 rpm and gently laid into it, but still managed to spin the tires. I attribute my bad 60 times to the EL42 tires and not going to a track in about 2 years.

Anyway, I’ll try again once I get better tires and maybe a drop-in K&N.

F23A4

Those times seem on par with a stock 5AT TL, and seem consistent enough to attain some success at bracket racing.

SuperStar

If you can get down the the 2.1 range, which will not happen with those tires, you're a 14.6-14.7 car.

I wouldnt worry too much.

ubnpast

you should get better times. I took my stock 04 5at to the track and got a few 14.9's.
Look at my thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/speed-trap-warning-i-95-ct-145246/

Also when you go to the track try this, as this yeilded the best results for me: Turned out that traction control off, and going through the waterbox to heat up the tires a little bit (e-brake up, punch it until about 2 seconds after trans goes into 2nd gear) got the best time (however if the track is well prep'd, and your tires dont spin out of the hole when just flat out punching it, then this is not needed, but give it a try anyway). Also found out that preloading the car only got worse times (so thats a no no), and that just flat out punching it, I got the best times. I got a 2.2 60'.

Mansa24

Thanks for the advice guys. Hopefully, I will do a better job of launching the TL next time I go to the track. I think I will go MIR next time since Capitol's track wasn't as good as I remember it.

blk2001tlon19s

cool, is your car stock?

AJ's Silver CL

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Good Runs !!! Next time lower your tire pressure to 25 psi.

bigdo26

I believe the general rule of thumb is 0.1 second lower in the 60' is ~0.15 or 0.2 seconds off the 1/4 time. Get into the 2.2xx range and you'd be good for 14.9. I'm surprised you were only at 93 mph as a trap speed though, with the car making 270 (or 258) hp, it should be higher. In my previous car, 02 maxima, which made probly ~260 hp (from the factory was really about 245, had I/E/P) I used to trap over just over 97 mph. Granted the TL is heavier, but I'd still expect more like 95 mph or so.

Eoanou

Yeah that trap seemed low to me too.

iforyou

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Car and Driver got 96mph with a 2nd gen TL-S.

ILLustriousUA6

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welcome to 2006? haha.. wow, 14.90 ... i am impressed. i have a CAI and i couldn't do it.. But also, it was 95+deg. how out that day.. I will be goin back to sactown to track in november of 2007! wish me luck. Im hoping to hit 14.8.

-2006 Acura TL a/t w/ just a AEM CAI.

ubnpast

That was on a poorly prep'd track, just make sure you dont preload it and follow what I did. Its also known that some intakes will not do anything on a stock car besides loosing some hp, my sisters bf owns a shop called turbo trix up here in nj.

ILLustriousUA6

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what do you mean preload??

iforyou

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probably brake torquing.

ubnpast

^ also another term. It means to hold one foot on the brake, and the other on the gas, when you go to take off, you keep your foot into the gas off the line while your other foot lets off of the brake.

FiveLiterCheater

^ Isn't that bad for the tranny?

ubnpast

It could possibly be bad for your mounts if they are old

iforyou

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there are different theories...and I don't know which one is true..anyways..some poeple say there is actually less damage if you do brake torquing. When you do, you "preload" pressure to the torque converter and then release it. If you don't brake torque, and instead just slam on the gas, then the sudden jerk can cause damage to the transmission.

SatinSilverAV6

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The tranny wouldn't take the beating from that unless a vehicle had serious mods to overload the torque converter. Most of the time on a heavily modified vehicle you can break an axle(which i have seen on my buddies Civic hatch with his B18C motor with I/H/E Vtec Controller(tuned). He has broke a number of front axles but only because his stock axle is not ment for that much power.

ubnpast

I would have to disagree, the first thing that would happen would be the tires breaking loose, then the axles, and finally the last thing would be the trans .

iforyou

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Yea, that's what I thought, I just heard those "theories," glad that someone would clear things up!

And yea, again, from what I've heard, if you were to mod a civic for power, one of the first things you'd need is get a stronger CV Joint.