Sonnick

On the way home after what became a fun night @ The Ave, I saw a G37, the same one we had made pals with. He was auto and had 3 passengers (all which were skinny, but still 3 passengers). We went from a 50 roll and I was in 3rd. I start pulling immediately and then at VTEC (no ricer) I was walking pretty good (2 cars around 75). There were cops on the other side of the road so I let off and shifted into 4th but he was still going! So I hit it in 4th at 75 as he pulled on me yet never passed me. I started pulling again and ended up about 2 cars @ 110.

The guy was cool, hopefully we'll see them around again. It would obviously be a much better run if he didn't have passengers, but I still think I'd pull based on the results.

SatinSilverAV6

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Nice kill on the G. I have seen on you tube this video. The G37 has exhaust here. Stock those G37 coupe autos are only high 13 second vehicles at best @ around 99MPH. From a roll I could see you pulling!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqzkvvufeKE

Sonnick

Yea they are def quick cars..and so sexyy. Honestly after letting off for at least a full second and being in 4th and still pulling, i wouldve put like 6 cars. I know he had 3 passengers and that makes a big difference but i was still shocked i pulled as hard as i did. How come all the race threads have a lot of responses except for mine lol

winstrolvtec

And when I suggested the same thing about a well driven TL 6MT being able walk most G cars in higher speed situations particularly from a roll, with maybe exception to the G37, it started a war. Under those same circumstances and minus the extra passengers a TLS 6MT would pull from that auto also and it be pretty tight against an equally equipped 6MT. Equally driven at a track is another story for obvious reasons, RWD vs FWD, no doubt about it but lets not allow those results to fool us when it comes to a different situations. Nice job and as another thread suggested, it aint that quick.

Sonnick

Well they are quick but so are our cars. The 6MT is another story..Id love to run one. This is why Honda needs to come out with a DOHC V6 again..it would slaughter.

winstrolvtec

What mods on the Accord in the vid, any idea?

FoRMuIaz

good kill , the g's are pretty quick cars!


ya, the accord had a Axle back exhaust

SatinSilverAV6

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Very similar to what sonnick has.

ifirahse

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Must've been an 08.

My sister just got an 09 coupe with the 7-speed auto, and after driving it a few times, I can confidently say that it will murder my modded auto type-s both from a dig and roll.

Even when test driving the G with 2 other people in the car with me, it felt faster than my type-s.

erick3

hahahahahahahhahaa that's RIGHT! "it ain't that quick"

Sonnick

08-09 are the same. Plus the 6MT Accord n TL is faster than a modded 5AT type s.

iforyou

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Unfortunately auto TL/TL-S aren't really that quick. Sonnick's Accord is quite a bit faster than it.

ifirahse

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No... 08 has a 5 speed auto, 09 has a 7 speed auto. Makes a huge difference.

He raced from a roll. TL-S isn't quick from a dig but from a roll it can hold it's own.

ifirahse

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And about the 6MT base being faster than the auto type-s...proof?

FastLS6speed

Stock G35/37 are slow... Ive seen some crazy fast turbod G35's. I would still take the new accord over both G35/37. I love the new body style

Sonnick

The 5at type s traps 96ish n runs high 14s stock n modded low-mid 14s @ 98ish. Stock 6MTs trap 98ish n run low to mid 14s. Modded high 13s low14s @100+. Only reason im not in the 13s is cuz i had a soso launch on stocks. Ive seen 1 5at s run 14.0 @102 with i/e/p/pc deletes. PCs do wonders for our trap!

Sonnick

Oh it was an 09 base. It had the double 5 spokes.

SatinSilverAV6

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Sonnick is right about the 6mt accord and 6MT base TL being faster than the auto type-s, especially from a roll! Both 6MT are capable of low 14's stock with traps in the higher 90's at best. A TL-S auto with basic boltons isn't going to even best that. You might be lucky to see a 14.3@98 best for your TL-S Auto with all the basic boltons. Definantly fast in its own right but won't touch a modded 6MT like sonnicks capable of high 13's with traps in the low 100's. That is G37 auto coupe territory and a touch faster than the convertable which is much heavier. The conv. G37 auto would be a good drivers race with you.

Sonnick

^^Agreed. The 6MT is a totally different beast. I hate to sound like a jerk but its a completely different car. I cant wait to get the PC deletes so I can start messin with 370Zs n 335i 6MTs.

Dave_B

Uhhhhhh 370Zs are currently running 13.4ish@105mph and truely capable of 12.9s on 26" slicks. That mod for your car is going to be good for about 50whp? That's about what it's going to take.

Sonnick

Lol. How many 370Zs are on slicks on the street??? 13.4 is fast 100%. I should be running 13.6-7 tho Im not scared

vhtran

I don't know much about the new Z but on Dragtimes (that's all I can share), they have 7 pages of 335i (6MT + Auto) and none of them is in the 14s zone.

Drove my coworker's new G37 auto and that car definitely feels more punch than the 3g and 4g TL

alexSU

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My 6MT TL is faster than a auto Type-S

Sonnick

Yea I know the 335i 6MTs are in the deep 13s. I'm talking about when I get the PC deletes it may be a good run. Right now a 335i 6MT would pull on me pretty hard, but those PC deletes make a big difference. I also have to install my ported intake manifold, I definitely think it would be close after those 2 mods.

I should be in the 13.6-7 range right now with my mods and a good launch. With a better launch I would've ran a 13.8 with just the CAI/Jpipe, but my launch slacked. I've been practicing so hopefully I'll be able to pull a 2.1 60' and run those times. When the car feels good, she fuckin PULLS. I have no doubt about running those times

alexSU

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dammit sonnick slow down lol later this month ill be getting precats and j-pipe and hopefully break into the 13's

on a side note, just raced a rsx type-s last night. i was behind him in 3rd gear at like 60mph and blew past him putting at least 3-4 cars by like 110 lol pretty fun (i knew he was racing cuz he downshifted as soon as the lane was empty)

Sonnick

Lol. Type S's are quick but they usually need to be heavily modded (I/RH/E/Kpro) to keep up with us, especially if we are modded. Let us know about those deletes!!

alexSU

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^ will do i'm pumped to give this car some more go!!

anx1300c

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I don't see how precats are going to take your car from 99/100 to 105 mph territory. What are they good for, ~12 whp or so? They'll possibly put you up to 101.

Sonnick

I already trapped 101. I added exhaust that should be good for 1mph n the deletes got peter 2mph on his auto type s so I figure maybe 1.5-2mph. Plus I have a ported intake mani waiting to be put on. Im not saying Im gonna trap 105 Im not. I expect high 103-104 tho. Also Im not saying Id beat the 6MT 335 or 370 but I think I should hang. I could be wrong tho. I should be @250whp after the PCs based on the dynos Ive seen and she weighs 3260ish w.me in it. Well see when I go I could be wrong.

alexSU

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^ wow that's pretty light! a good 350lbs less then my TL

sharp218

Stock for stock an 04-06 6MT will be equal to or faster than a TL-S 5AT.

F23A4

Let me know when you're heading to the track; my son added a few 'bits and pieces' to his Alti and would love to run an AV6 6MT (and TL-S again)...though I think he'd prefer to run an 8G.

Sonnick

For sure. Id love to run a 5MT Alti w.mods. It should be a great race. What the 7th gen isnt fast enough for him? Lol only teasin :P What does he have done?

anx1300c

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I guess it's not impossible then. I can't believe your car's that light with you in it. Did you strip any weight or is that all they weigh? I think you have one of the fastest N/A 7th gens anywhere. I saw a 6MT on dragtimes with CAI, exhaust and RV6 parts running like 15.10 @ 95mph. Yours is quite the sleeper.

Sonnick

Well, that's "race weight" with 1/4 tank or less of gas. With a full tank it's probably in the 3340 range.

I haven't done any weight reduction, spare and jack are still in there too.

Really? That's pretty cool I didn't even think of that, I figured there were faster 7th gen 6MTs out there..especially since I have less than bolt ons. There's a couple autos that are quick, 1 has a LOT of mods and is undergoing the J33 right now. The other has the J33 and ran 13.6 @103 I believe with I/E/TL-s cams/11:1 CR and Idk what else, no PC deletes, so the J series definitely has a lot of potential..especially with cams that are coming out from Bisi and P2R I believe as well..oh, and another company I know of

I like to think she's pretty quick though when I'm behind the wheel. Dare I say I want to try to be the first NA 7th gen (3.0L) in the 12s

winstrolvtec

Stock 7th gen 6MT Accord coupes are good for 14.5's on a fairly consistant basis. Traps are around 97-99 if I remember correctly.

SatinSilverAV6

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15.1 is what the autos run on a consistant basis in stock form. The 6MT are consistant mid 14 second cars like winstrolvtec said. The fastest stock 7th gen 6MT accord i have seen is a 14.2 with a 2.08 60ft. 2 different people have acheived that ET.

FastLS6speed

If you can pull that then I will name my third born after you! Regardless of if its a he/she...

alexSU

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well sonnick looks like your thread got a lot of attention

Sonnick

Lol. You do know that a Honda Insight ran in the 9s right, NA??

With cams, high CR, a good intake system (intake/manifold), ported heads, a 3" exhaust, etc., I can guarantee it. 300+whp can be acheived NA with the 3.0L motor 100%. With the TL-s cams and 11:1 CR Brett on V6 P gained 40whp on the J33 auto. So S/C numbers are totally possible with the NA 3.0L. With some DRs, I'ma run 12s

Lol @ Alex.