3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Edmunds Full Review

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-20-2004, 07:33 PM
  #1  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
dwhitten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bartlett, TN
Age: 55
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up Edmunds Full Review

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/acur...ightbanner.1.*
Old 01-20-2004, 07:34 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
Z Factor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,009
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Edmunds Full Review

Thank you
Old 01-20-2004, 07:51 PM
  #3  
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Wash. State
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks for the link.

I was curious about this navi system quote:
"As a safety precaution, one can only operate the system when the car is stopped — a good idea generally, as we don't think a driver should be messing with a touchscreen keyboard while driving. But what if a passenger acting as co-pilot were available to run the nav system? On second thought, here in America, where "common" sense is actually uncommon, perhaps Acura thought it best to play it safe."

I haven't used every nav. feature while underway, but I wasn't aware of anything that required the car to be stopped to function. Is their info incorrect?
Old 01-20-2004, 08:09 PM
  #4  
Pro
 
Modeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 634
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Hybrid
Thanks for the link.

I was curious about this navi system quote:
"As a safety precaution, one can only operate the system when the car is stopped — a good idea generally, as we don't think a driver should be messing with a touchscreen keyboard while driving. But what if a passenger acting as co-pilot were available to run the nav system? On second thought, here in America, where "common" sense is actually uncommon, perhaps Acura thought it best to play it safe."

I haven't used every nav. feature while underway, but I wasn't aware of anything that required the car to be stopped to function. Is their info incorrect?
Yes, it's incorrect. I use the NAVI while driving all the time. Maybe the boot-up disclaimer says that one shouldn't do it, but I never even read that disclaimer.
Old 01-20-2004, 08:15 PM
  #5  
Cruisin'
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phila, PA
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I certainly haven't noticed commands I cannot perform while driving... and I have tried too many. At one point my wife suggested that they tie the touch screen to the presence of a passenger. No passenger...no touch screen! I'm glad she doesn't work for Acura.

They also said that the: "climate and audio functions (in greater detail, to boot) can be displayed in the nav screen"

Climate functions on the nav screen?
Old 01-20-2004, 08:21 PM
  #6  
Senior Moderator
 
neuronbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cleveland area, OH
Posts: 20,015
Received 4,613 Likes on 2,193 Posts
Thanks for the link. That's a great review, though I wish they had done a full test on the 5AT! (sulks in a corner for a minute)

Their braking distance almost matches that obtained by Motorweek. The 0-60 time reflects that they (admittedly) had some trouble with the clutch. They needed more practice, I guess.

1/2 of the second opinions were positive as well, though the Ed-in-chief's opinion brings to mind the debate we have here occasionally about whether the TL is worth thousands more than the Accord; he feels it is not. Bull$hit, I say! But to each, his own, let him put a BMW and an Accord in his garage.
Old 01-20-2004, 08:32 PM
  #7  
Racer
 
princed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Again, we have excellent braking numbers from a publication that received a TL equpped with the HPT option. Car and Driver and Motor Trend's abysmal numbers were measured on cars equipped with Turanzas. I still can't get over the fact that the Turanzas add 15-20% to the 60-0 stopping distance!

Interesting...
Old 01-20-2004, 08:42 PM
  #8  
Racer
 
princed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally posted by neuronbob
1/2 of the second opinions were positive as well, though the Ed-in-chief's opinion brings to mind the debate we have here occasionally about whether the TL is worth thousands more than the Accord; he feels it is not. Bull$hit, I say! But to each, his own, let him put a BMW and an Accord in his garage.
You know, I agree that the Accord and TL are completely different beasts, and I had no trouble paying the extra thousands for the TL, but when Honda comes out with the hybrid Accord w/ 240+hp plus IMA and VCM (30+mpg in combined city/highway!), I'm going to cry (I didn't know this car would be released when I bought my TL ).

Right now, I feel that many, many people will feel justified in paying 6-8k more for the TL, but in late 04 when the Accord becomes more powerful than the TL with far better fuel economy, the decision is going to be a lot harder...
Old 01-20-2004, 08:45 PM
  #9  
Pro
 
Modeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 634
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by AcurRacer
I certainly haven't noticed commands I cannot perform while driving... and I have tried too many. At one point my wife suggested that they tie the touch screen to the presence of a passenger. No passenger...no touch screen! I'm glad she doesn't work for Acura.

They also said that the: "climate and audio functions (in greater detail, to boot) can be displayed in the nav screen"

Climate functions on the nav screen?
I sent the editor an e-mail about the NAVI-while-driving issue, but I didn't mention this second one about climate control information on the NAVI.
Old 01-20-2004, 09:13 PM
  #10  
Team Anthracite President
 
Vffr1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Silicon Valley, California
Posts: 988
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
HPT?

What is HPT?

Thanks!
Old 01-20-2004, 09:25 PM
  #11  
Senior Moderator
 
neuronbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cleveland area, OH
Posts: 20,015
Received 4,613 Likes on 2,193 Posts
HPT=High Performance Tire upgrade
Old 01-20-2004, 09:28 PM
  #12  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
dwhitten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bartlett, TN
Age: 55
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: HPT?

Originally posted by Vffr1
What is HPT?

Thanks!
High Performance Tires
Old 01-27-2004, 06:54 PM
  #13  
CEO of IMHO
 
JonDeutsch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: KOP, PA
Age: 55
Posts: 646
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Response from Edmunds re: the NAVI functionality

After investigating this, we discovered that the car we drove (a
pre-production vehicle) had a glitch in the nav. system that wouldn't allow us to program the system while underway.

Indeed, Acuras do allow operation of the system while the car is in motion and we have made the appropriate change to that road test.

John DiPietro
Road Test Editor
Edmunds.com
Old 01-27-2004, 07:10 PM
  #14  
Moderator Alumnus
 
rets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC/SF/Tokyo/HK
Posts: 12,177
Likes: 0
Received 86 Likes on 30 Posts
Originally posted by JonDeutsch
Response from Edmunds re: the NAVI functionality

After investigating this, we discovered that the car we drove (a
pre-production vehicle) had a glitch in the nav. system that wouldn't allow us to program the system while underway.

Indeed, Acuras do allow operation of the system while the car is in motion and we have made the appropriate change to that road test.

John DiPietro
Road Test Editor
Edmunds.com

It's very irresponsible article. They should confirm this prior to their posting. Since this is so WEIRD feature, not many cars have, they should make sure it's what Acura wanna have.
Old 01-27-2004, 07:47 PM
  #15  
Pro
 
Modeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 634
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by JonDeutsch
Response from Edmunds re: the NAVI functionality

After investigating this, we discovered that the car we drove (a
pre-production vehicle) had a glitch in the nav. system that wouldn't allow us to program the system while underway.

Indeed, Acuras do allow operation of the system while the car is in motion and we have made the appropriate change to that road test.

John DiPietro
Road Test Editor
Edmunds.com
I got the same response to my correction!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MrHeeltoe
1G TSX Tires, Wheels, & Suspension
20
02-23-2023 01:54 PM
ITSJESTER
4G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
17
12-06-2018 02:29 AM
MrHeeltoe
2G TSX Tires, Wheels & Suspension
3
09-29-2015 10:43 PM
MrHeeltoe
3G TL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
0
09-28-2015 05:43 PM
rhdune16
Car Parts for Sale
0
09-28-2015 11:31 AM



Quick Reply: Edmunds Full Review



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:24 AM.