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Old 04-10-2014 | 12:35 PM
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Early 105k service? Would you?

So while my car is up on the hoist my mechanic (trust worthy reputable shop) calls me saying that while he was doing my oil change, he noticed a minor oil leak. I know it's not dripping heavily by any means as I would have noticed it in my garage but he did inform me that it could and is most likely coming from a loose ring. Now since the procedure requires him to be close to the timing belt/water pump etc... He gave me the option of doing my 105k km service earlier. My question is would you personally have it done all in one shot? I am only at 72300km (45000 miles) so I'm clearly under due. I figure it will cost me less in the long run as he is there already and will cut down my labour charges than to have it done at the proper interval.

On the plus side he said that it could be very minor that it doesn't need to be addressed until the proper interval. Either way it should be done. It all depends on either now or later (risk it getting worse?).
Old 04-10-2014 | 12:42 PM
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Fix the loose ring and do the 105k service later. You're only at 45k miles. At the rate your drive the car, you may not need the service for another 5-7 years and by the, you may have sold it.
Old 04-10-2014 | 12:45 PM
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the power steering pump which is also on that side loves to leak because of an o-ring getting mushed

if you do the timing belt now at 45000, the on board computer will still alert you at 100-105k miles.
then, you either have to remember that you did it, or have it written down with the mileage and date you did it.
then when you're at 100k miles from 45k, is when you change it again.

sounds like a hassle.
the on board computer makes things VERY easy on when to change things.
Old 04-10-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Always cheaper to do it in one shot. Keep in mind that its 105k/7 years. If you're going to wait, keep an eye on the leak and your oil level to make sure it doesn't create a huge problem for you. If I were you and was able to afford it, I would probably just get it done now. Then again, I'm very anal when it comes to maintenance.
Old 04-10-2014 | 12:51 PM
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I had my timing belt replaced at 7 years/roughly 72,000 miles because the water pump needed replacing. Made more sense to do both at the same time, and since the extended warranty (since expired) paid for the water pump, I took less of a financial hit.

I wrote down the date and mileage in the folder where I keep all the service records since I know this spring or summer it'll ding me when I hit 105,000 miles.
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Old 04-10-2014 | 12:52 PM
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Seems to be a change between US vs CAD tl's. We do the timing belt/water pump service at 100000-105000 KM'S (63000 MILES). So I'm just shy of 30000 KMS (18600 MILES).
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^that makes more sense, changing it with the water pump.

but changing it because of a leak that the mechanic has not found yet, is insane!!
Old 04-10-2014 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 07NBP-S
Seems to be a change between US vs CAD tl's. We do the timing belt/water pump service at 100000-105000 KM'S (63000 MILES). So I'm just shy of 30000 KMS (18600 MILES).
its 105K miles. not KM's.
youve got it backwards!!
Old 04-10-2014 | 02:23 PM
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^+1

TL's are TL's, just because it's in canada doesn't mean it has a different service interval
Old 04-10-2014 | 03:08 PM
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^ weather is harsher where they are do their service interval might be taking that into consideration.... as for the T-belt, my Acura dealer said I could do my belt at 120K and 10 years, so I did it at 118K and 10 years. No problems and everything was butter smooth.

My wife has a Yamaha Nouvo 115 in Vietnam and I have a Yamaha Vino 125 here and the service schedule is nearly 1/2 of the times specified here

oil change every 32000KM for me 2000 for her
rear axle oil every 7200KM for me 5000 for her
the only thing that matches is the V belt every 12KM
Old 04-10-2014 | 03:27 PM
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Yes there so happens to be a difference. The timing belt/water pump service is due for ours at 100000kms or 60000 miles. However, the debate is not about the difference of service intervals between us and cad tl's. The question still remains. Would you do the service ahead of time? Can't one simply clear the MID when the service appears if I go ahead of schedule?
Old 04-10-2014 | 03:29 PM
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yes you can clear the mids and yes you can do the service early. Unless you are leaking at the water pump or it failed or you are getting oil in there, I would not do service early.
Old 04-10-2014 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 07NBP-S
...and is most likely coming from a loose ring....
Huh?

Originally Posted by Vlad_Type_S
..Keep in mind that its 105k/7 years.....
No, it's when the MID shows a "4", which has proven to be 105K +/- ~4K irregardless of years. We have 04' TLs with less than 105K that still have not received a "4" on the MID. For normal use, there is no time or mileage limit in the SM or OM.

Originally Posted by 07NBP-S
Seems to be a change between US vs CAD tl's. We do the timing belt/water pump service at 100000-105000 KM'S (63000 MILES). So I'm just shy of 30000 KMS (18600 MILES).
Don't know where you're getting that. The severe service interval is 60K miles, but there's not an inhabitable location in North America that meets those conditions...

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
^ weather is harsher where they are do their service interval might be taking that into consideration....
Again, no inhabited location in North America meets the severe conditions listed in the SM/OM.

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
...as for the T-belt, my Acura dealer said I could do my belt at 120K and 10 year....
Your dealer? Who at the dealer? The owner? The Service Manager? Some flunky $20/hr tech? Whoever it was certainly would have raised eyebrows if corporate Acura knew they were saying that.

Originally Posted by 07NBP-S
Yes there so happens to be a difference. The timing belt/water pump service is due for ours at 100000kms or 60000 miles. ....
Again, where are you getting this from?

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Old 04-10-2014 | 04:05 PM
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yes canada weather can be harsher, but there are plenty of areas in the US that can be just as cold and in many areas(like arizona) hotter. So no, I dont think acura would release a statement saying canadian intervals are shorter. Also, Acura cannot assume people who buy cars in the US never drive to canada anyways. a TL is a TL.
Old 04-10-2014 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Huh?



No, it's when the MID shows a "4", which has proven to be 105K +/- ~4K irregardless of years. We have 04' TLs with less than 105K that still have not received a "4" on the MID. For normal use, there is no time or mileage limit in the SM or OM.



Don't know where you're getting that. The severe service interval is 60K miles, but there's not an inhabitable location in North America that meets those conditions...



Again, no inhabited location in North America meets the severe conditions listed in the SM/OM.



Your dealer? Who at the dealer? The owner? The Service Manager? Some flunky $20/hr tech? Whoever it was certainly would have raised eyebrows if corporate Acura knew they were saying that.



Again, where are you getting this from?
lol okay if you say so but the manual begs to differ....

long periods of excessive cold? check
long periods of excessive heat? check
lots of short trips? check
city traffic? check
dusty area?

are all considered harsh conditions

and it was the acura dealer that told me that

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Old 04-10-2014 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
lol okay if you say so but the manual begs to differ....

long periods of excessive cold? check
long periods of excessive heat? check
lots of short trips? check
city traffic? check
dusty area?

are all considered harsh conditions

and it was the acura dealer that told me that
Sure as hell don't know what manual you are reading....

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
..long periods of excessive cold? check...
Wrong. It says: "If you drive REGULARLY in very low temperatures (below -20F/-29C), replace every 60,000 miles (US)/100,000km (Canada)"

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
...long periods of excessive heat? check...
Again, wrong. It says: "If you drive REGULARLY in very high temperatures (over 110F/43C), replace every 60,000 miles (US)/100,000km (Canada)"

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
..
lots of short trips? check
Nope. Not there.

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
city traffic? check
Nope. Not there.

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
dusty area?
Nope. Not there.

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
are all considered harsh conditions
Nope. Not there.
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Old 04-10-2014 | 05:44 PM
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i have just over 50K miles
i'm not doing it early...
i'll probably trade it in by then or do the service if i have an issue with pump..

question: how much is this service at the stealership?
Old 04-10-2014 | 06:02 PM
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No, I would not get it done early.
Old 04-11-2014 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Sure as hell don't know what manual you are reading....



Wrong. It says: "If you drive REGULARLY in very low temperatures (below -20F/-29C), replace every 60,000 miles (US)/100,000km (Canada)"



Again, wrong. It says: "If you drive REGULARLY in very high temperatures (over 110F/43C), replace every 60,000 miles (US)/100,000km (Canada)"



Nope. Not there.



Nope. Not there.



Nope. Not there.



Nope. Not there.
I love this guy^^^thx for making my laugh
Old 04-12-2014 | 02:24 AM
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To end this whole cad vs us debate. Here's a cad link for my cad tl, on top of that acura dealerships here have the same intervals plastered above the service desk, along with my manual. Punch in your necessary info and follow the schedule.
http://www.acura.ca/owners/maintenance-calculator
Old 04-12-2014 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 07NBP-S
To end this whole cad vs us debate. Here's a cad link for my cad tl, on top of that acura dealerships here have the same intervals plastered above the service desk, along with my manual. Punch in your necessary info and follow the schedule.
http://www.acura.ca/owners/maintenance-calculator
And it says to change when you get a "4" on the MID unless driven REGULARLY in very low temperatures. But the website doesn't define what "very low temperatures" is like the US manuals do (-20F/-29C).

Otherwise, it says to change the TB when you get a "4" on the MID, which I'll guarantee comes at around 169,000Km.

IMO, the Canadian dealers are taking great liberties with that clause to make money by changing TB unnecessarily early.

Post a screenshot of the actual owners manual page.

Edit: Her's the link to the US maintenance schedule:

http://owners.acura.com/service-main...L#mid^UA6554KW

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