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Old 01-13-2012, 02:05 PM
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Collison shop wants to "mix" paint to match AM

Ok well the wife try's to snake it out the driveway and swipes my work car, a Ford Focus

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=c4ace818d46fb013&resid=C4ACE818D46F B013!351&parid=C4ACE818D46FB013!151&authkey=!AD-pTqjsyT1EJbI


I got a quote of 1102 dollars for the repair but I asked the guys at the shop if they use OEM paint, their reply was "No OEM paint isn't available to the market". I haven't had time to research that comment, but it sounds like BS. What do you think?
Old 01-13-2012, 02:08 PM
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Total BS, my brother swiped my car with his G37s and I'm getting it repaired with OEM paint. Plus I think your paying a bit much for the amount of damage you have.
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I forgot to mention I made an insurance claim with USAA, so in reality I'm paying for the deductible (500).
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Most places mix paint...as long as its quality paint (PPG brand) its fine. They mix a few different batches and pick the closest to the car to get the best match.

Nothing wrong with that...my cars been in the shop twice in the last year and this is ye procedure they used. It matches perfect DGP.
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the $$ amount for the damages is about right. they have to repair any indentations incurred, then blend paint to the door, the rear quarter and the rear side skirt.

if you find a shop that works on acura's all the time, with a good track record...the shop should not have a hard time matching the paint.

i had some damage to my rear quarter by the door years ago from a hit and run (softball sized dent with paint scrapes), that was almost $1000 to repair.

get a few more estimates from other shops and see what they say.

sorry about the car. good luck.
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I had to get a front bumper cover painted at Autocrafters. They matched the paint better than OEM. Of course WDP had the issue with bumpers not matching correctly.
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Cool thanks for everyone's input. The best price I got for the car was 950. Bringing insurance quotes works =] The guy at the shop further explained the process, like quanaman said, so I went with that shop.
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You never go with OEM paint. It is always a mix of paints because through time, the sun and other natural elements makes the color change slightly.
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Honda doesn't produce automotive paint, nor do they retail paint for bodyshops. They use a supplier. The big chemical companies in the US auto paint market are PPG, Dupont, and BASF. Honda probably uses a brand line from one of these guys. Most quality bodyshops use one of these same companies. Auto paint in a brand product line is supplied in an array of tints. The different tints are used to mix the paint at the shops by paint code. When a painter enters a paint code in the mixing system, it generates a list of color variants to select from, including a standard variant. Shops select a particular variant that best matches the color on the actual car. If they have to, they can adjust the color or by tweaking the mixture of tints.

I will say from experience with BASF RM Diamont. When AM first came out as a color offering, it was/is a tough color to match. If panels are being color blended its not so much of an issue. But, when painting AM bumpers it takes time to ensure an acceptable match to the adjacent panels.
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If they're reputable as someone said they should be able to do it right, assuming their painters or assistants are competent enough to do it right + blending. Panel painting with mixed paints never comes out right IMO.
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Actually, they don't have the actual OEM paint the factory uses because the painting and baking process is different. The paints body shops use are specially formulated for refinishing and a lower baking temperature.

Don't worry so much about best price, if that is all you focus on you are not going to end up happy with the work. Cheap paint/body means they skip steps like proper prep, removing molding, lights, etc and just tape everything. Lower quality primers and paints, the list goes on.
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Originally Posted by powerflow
Honda doesn't produce automotive paint, nor do they retail paint for bodyshops. They use a supplier. The big chemical companies in the US auto paint market are PPG, Dupont, and BASF. Honda probably uses a brand line from one of these guys. Most quality bodyshops use one of these same companies. Auto paint in a brand product line is supplied in an array of tints. The different tints are used to mix the paint at the shops by paint code. When a painter enters a paint code in the mixing system, it generates a list of color variants to select from, including a standard variant. Shops select a particular variant that best matches the color on the actual car. If they have to, they can adjust the color or by tweaking the mixture of tints.

I will say from experience with BASF RM Diamont. When AM first came out as a color offering, it was/is a tough color to match. If panels are being color blended its not so much of an issue. But, when painting AM bumpers it takes time to ensure an acceptable match to the adjacent panels.
here is your answer, very nicely said and explained. I always laugh when people ask if I use OEM paint. Sometimes it is just easier to say yes then to explain.
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