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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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car pushed while parked in gear

Well, you all know the story of how my car got hit in front of my house a few weeks ago. When the guy hit me (Big 1978 Chevy Pickup) He pushed my car from its parked location quite a few feet and into the road. I had the ebrake up and the car was parked in gear. Could this do any damage to my tranny since it was in gear?

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AA7483
Well, you all know the story of how my car got hit in front of my house a few weeks ago. When the guy hit me (Big 1978 Chevy Pickup) He pushed my car from its parked location quite a few feet and into the road. I had the ebrake up and the car was parked in gear. Could this do any damage to my tranny since it was in gear?

Thanks fellas

Anthony
I believe you have a 6sp?? If so, probably not. Most likely just slid the tires or turned the engine over as if you were push starting it (even if in reverse). Was it still in gear when you found it? Many times they will pop out.

An automatic will most likely skid but can damage the park "latch/chaug (sp)" mechanism.

Either way make sure it is documented with either/both insurance companies in the event something transpires down the road..
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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5at??

But, IMO, I'd think your gear would be damaged if your car isn't sliding forward but rolling forward.





Edit: My bad... 6MT...
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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The car was parked in gear where I left it. I was at work when it got hit. It is a 6sp. The cop tried to pull it in the driveway for me but then realized it was not driveable. I guess thats when it was taken out of gear, unless it popped out itself. It was towed b4 i even got home
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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have the repair shop check it... that simple.... and yes it could damage it....

with either a 6 speed or an auto
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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it could damage it, but if you had EL42s on the car, the car probably just slid
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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it could damage it, but if you had EL42s on the car, the car probably just slid

damn funny....

how long you been a mod? did i miss something?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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i called the dealership and asked them to check the tranny and the tires in case there was any damage.

PS They have had it for 2 weeks now and havent started working on it yet. They claim they are waiting for the parts. They could have at least had the car stripped by now.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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I assume parts they are waiting for are for the body?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Yea, but i cant believe they havent started tearing it apart yet
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Hopefully, they could examine that gear first. I hate they tell you they find the new issues and you have to wait for days to get another parts... after they fix the body...
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Pushing your car in gear will not damage it. The only load on the gear was caused by the engine's compression and that is way lower than the load you put on it when you are pulling away from a stop light. Every time you coast the car to a stop you are working the gears against the engines compression. Now you can dammage the parking paw in a automatic transmission if you try push it in park.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Pushing your car in gear will not damage it. The only load on the gear was caused by the engine's compression and that is way lower than the load you put on it when you are pulling away from a stop light. Every time you coast the car to a stop you are working the gears against the engines compression. Now you can dammage the parking paw in a automatic transmission if you try push it in park.

the gear took quite a blow when it was hit.... it was stopped and locked in place. it was hit and imeadiatly accelerated to the speed of the car....

as you know most manuals dont break in normal every day driving... they break under extreme power or load situations... like a high rpm launch, as the gear is being hammered by the engine to get the stopped car moving.... the situation is reversed the moving car is hammering the engine to get it turning....

and in your example the engine is running when you coast down, so the shock isnt as great as the engine is already turning and at a similar speed to whatyou are doing.... and the engine running alone will make it easier as the engine is still firing, opening the valves, and running on its own....

dont belive cruise at 35 shift to first and dump the clutch.... thats the shock the drivleline would feel.... thats why you rev match for shifts.... to protect the driveline...

so yes the transmission can be affected....
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Yea, but i cant believe they havent started tearing it apart yet

its better buisness not to... why have someone ter it apart just to move it, mauybe take up space and time, when you can move it once you have everything you need? im sure they have other cars to work on and some that they can get in and out quick (and get paid) where as even if they start on yours it wont be ready till they have the parts....
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Actually. They have been moving it in and out every day. They cant leave it out at night b/c the back window shattered. The funny thing is when I asked them why he didnt start it yet he said, we need the work we just dont have the parts yet. he doesnt sound too busy to me.

Damn Acura dealers
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ONAGER
the gear took quite a blow when it was hit.... it was stopped and locked in place. it was hit and imeadiatly accelerated to the speed of the car....

as you know most manuals dont break in normal every day driving... they break under extreme power or load situations... like a high rpm launch, as the gear is being hammered by the engine to get the stopped car moving.... the situation is reversed the moving car is hammering the engine to get it turning....

and in your example the engine is running when you coast down, so the shock isnt as great as the engine is already turning and at a similar speed to whatyou are doing.... and the engine running alone will make it easier as the engine is still firing, opening the valves, and running on its own....

dont belive cruise at 35 shift to first and dump the clutch.... thats the shock the drivleline would feel.... thats why you rev match for shifts.... to protect the driveline...

so yes the transmission can be affected....
No-one is saying that it "can't/won't" hurt the transmission/drivetrain. Sure the dealer will check it out but all that will entail is driving the car / performing an "ops" check. It's not like they will pull the trans out, open it up and check "1st" gear (or whichever gear it may have been in). They will just drive the car and feel/check for abnormalities.
Even "considering" the trans/gears went from 0-35 etc. in an instance still would not concern me as a mechanic. Given the tires definitely skidded initially, the compression onset of the engine, clutch, etc.,,, the overall stress to a drivetrain is absorbed in a "non-damaging" effect (much of which was also absorbed by the bumper/body itself). Even the parking brake being on helped absorb much of the force.
With over 8+ years as a dealer mechanic I never once witnessed a damaged MT from a like crash/impact. We did however replace parking "cogs/pals" in AT's after significant impacts... When an AT is in park their is no where for the "force" of rotation through the trans to go. "PARK" is a mechanical latch/stop. With an MT the rotational forces are absorbed by the engine which just - turns over.....

Overall,
Anthony-just state your concerns to the shop manager and ensure they drive/visually check things over. When its all said and done thats all they can really do. Unless their is visible damage and/or noises/shifting problems etc., the shop will tell you to drive it and let them know if it starts acting up. Bottom line, the transmission would be the least of my concerns.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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No-one is saying that it "can't/won't" hurt the transmission/drivetrain. Sure the dealer will check it out but all that will entail is driving the car / performing an "ops" check. It's not like they will pull the trans out, open it up and check "1st" gear (or whichever gear it may have been in). They will just drive the car and feel/check for abnormalities.
Even "considering" the trans/gears went from 0-35 etc. in an instance still would not concern me as a mechanic. Given the tires definitely skidded initially, the compression onset of the engine, clutch, etc.,,, the overall stress to a drivetrain is absorbed in a "non-damaging" effect (much of which was also absorbed by the bumper/body itself). Even the parking brake being on helped absorb much of the force.
With over 8+ years as a dealer mechanic I never once witnessed a damaged MT from a like crash/impact. We did however replace parking "cogs/pals" in AT's after significant impacts... When an AT is in park their is no where for the "force" of rotation through the trans to go. "PARK" is a mechanical latch/stop. With an MT the rotational forces are absorbed by the engine which just - turns over.....

Overall,
Anthony-just state your concerns to the shop manager and ensure they drive/visually check things over. When its all said and done thats all they can really do. Unless their is visible damage and/or noises/shifting problems etc., the shop will tell you to drive it and let them know if it starts acting up. Bottom line, the transmission would be the least of my concerns.

Thanks, well since I was parked on the street when it happened, the car was pushed into a curb and my back driverside wheel is bent out like this /. So there was def. some supension damage. Its not driveable right now so I guess they will have to check it once that is all straightened out.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Thanks, well since I was parked on the street when it happened, the car was pushed into a curb and my back driverside wheel is bent out like this /. So there was def. some supension damage. Its not driveable right now so I guess they will have to check it once that is all straightened out.
Ouch!
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