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11-11-2005, 02:37 AM
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I see that Car and Driver did a comparison test on Mid Sedans. I noticed that BMW came in first. I then wonder why it came in first after all the things that happened to it on the test drive. Seems like someone might be a bit biased.
Great German engineering at hand here:
The new 3-series has a push-button start. Ours would work only after several exasperated pushes and fiddling with the key.
Then the ABS lamp lit. We tried to execute one stop on our high-desert test road and nearly executed a 360 spin at 70 mph instead (thus, our braking number is from a previous test)
I think if this was another car , they would fail it instead of bringing in some old results.
This one is reassuring!:
Shortly thereafter several airbag-malfunction warnings lit up.
Another good one:
It helps that this 330i was ordered just right, meaning with a six-speed manual and without the wonky active steering and the atrocious iDrive. Both are warts on the options sheet to be avoided at all costs.
Ya, this definitely screams number one in my books:
The radio display is hard to read and harder to operate, the A/C struggled in the heat, and the dash is a meniscus that curves coldly away from you. It's easy to feel like just a cog in the machine.
I'm not saying that the TL should be first, just that the BMW doesn't sound like a first place winner. That's my
Great German engineering at hand here:
The new 3-series has a push-button start. Ours would work only after several exasperated pushes and fiddling with the key.
Then the ABS lamp lit. We tried to execute one stop on our high-desert test road and nearly executed a 360 spin at 70 mph instead (thus, our braking number is from a previous test)
I think if this was another car , they would fail it instead of bringing in some old results.
This one is reassuring!:
Shortly thereafter several airbag-malfunction warnings lit up.
Another good one:
It helps that this 330i was ordered just right, meaning with a six-speed manual and without the wonky active steering and the atrocious iDrive. Both are warts on the options sheet to be avoided at all costs.
Ya, this definitely screams number one in my books:
The radio display is hard to read and harder to operate, the A/C struggled in the heat, and the dash is a meniscus that curves coldly away from you. It's easy to feel like just a cog in the machine.
I'm not saying that the TL should be first, just that the BMW doesn't sound like a first place winner. That's my
Didn't see it.
11-11-2005, 06:06 AM
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How is that different from people on here saying I get vibrations and rattles and the brakes had to be serviced at 10,000 miles and the paint is a problem... But, I love this car... Same thing The only thing about the auto writer is they do not care about the problems only about the ride after they get the issues fixed. They do not live with the issues...!!!
And BMW scored lower on the list than acura did in the JD power survey...
And BMW scored lower on the list than acura did in the JD power survey...
11-12-2005, 05:33 PM
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C&D's comparison tests don't consider reliability when ranking the cars.
Frankly, it wouldn't make any sense. To just get my reliability research at www.truedelta.com rolling I'm requiring 25 cars per model / model year. Even this is too low a number, and eventually the minimum will be somewhere between 100 and 200. No one would take my research seriously if I had data on just a single vehicle for each model. Similarly, it makes no sense to judge a model's reliability based on how many problems a car in a comparison test experienced.
The magazines continue to conduct long-term tests to evaluate reliability. But the logic of these is questionable.
Frankly, it wouldn't make any sense. To just get my reliability research at www.truedelta.com rolling I'm requiring 25 cars per model / model year. Even this is too low a number, and eventually the minimum will be somewhere between 100 and 200. No one would take my research seriously if I had data on just a single vehicle for each model. Similarly, it makes no sense to judge a model's reliability based on how many problems a car in a comparison test experienced.
The magazines continue to conduct long-term tests to evaluate reliability. But the logic of these is questionable.
i trust consumers report better i think
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