CAI intake coming out soon....
#1
CAI intake coming out soon....Pics...
I'm dropping my car off on wednesday at Injen to haev them R&D their Cold Air Intake system...
They'll have my car for 3 days.. and stated that they will dyno the car before and after 3 times.... I cant wait to see the results.. Hopefully its something similar to the G35 Coupe intake they did that brought the motor alive...
Ill let you guys know how it goes..
They'll have my car for 3 days.. and stated that they will dyno the car before and after 3 times.... I cant wait to see the results.. Hopefully its something similar to the G35 Coupe intake they did that brought the motor alive...
Ill let you guys know how it goes..
#5
Originally posted by rets
Sorry, what's that?
Sorry, what's that?
Its basicaly a whole new intake system for your vehicle.. Generally adds anywhere from 4-15hp on a vehicle depending on how restrictive the intake system on that vehicle is...
#7
Thanks. jimthegreek.
To copter, I guess jimthegreek probably tries to get better performance from the newer system. TL has the similar system, but maybe it's not so efficient to match ppl's needs, and his new system could have better way to squeeze more HP by properly cooling and compressing the air.
Acura says,
COLD-AIR INDUCTION SYSTEM
Cool air is denser than hot air and allows an engine to make more power by packing more oxygen per given volume. To capitalize on this fact, the TL has a special cold-air induction system as standard equipment. Ambient air is picked up through an inlet in the left front fascia, and fed by a duct to the engine air intake. Depending on vehicle speed, this system supplies the engine with ambient air that is much as 15 degrees F. cooler than typical engine compartment air.
A new low-restriction induction system improves breathing in the new TL. In addition to providing more aggressive sound under acceleration, this new system flows 40 percent more air than the system in the '03 TL, and about four percent more than in the '03 Type-S.
To copter, I guess jimthegreek probably tries to get better performance from the newer system. TL has the similar system, but maybe it's not so efficient to match ppl's needs, and his new system could have better way to squeeze more HP by properly cooling and compressing the air.
Acura says,
COLD-AIR INDUCTION SYSTEM
Cool air is denser than hot air and allows an engine to make more power by packing more oxygen per given volume. To capitalize on this fact, the TL has a special cold-air induction system as standard equipment. Ambient air is picked up through an inlet in the left front fascia, and fed by a duct to the engine air intake. Depending on vehicle speed, this system supplies the engine with ambient air that is much as 15 degrees F. cooler than typical engine compartment air.
A new low-restriction induction system improves breathing in the new TL. In addition to providing more aggressive sound under acceleration, this new system flows 40 percent more air than the system in the '03 TL, and about four percent more than in the '03 Type-S.
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#8
the new TL does not have a "TRUE" cold air intake. Its not attached from the front induction to the actual intake inlet.. So its not really forcing air into the intake system....
Putting colder air into the intake and throttle body improves HP and gas mileage, depending on how you drive it. Injen is shooting for about 12hp gain through the intake..
I'd like to see what they get out of it... anything over 5hp would be nice...
Putting colder air into the intake and throttle body improves HP and gas mileage, depending on how you drive it. Injen is shooting for about 12hp gain through the intake..
I'd like to see what they get out of it... anything over 5hp would be nice...
#10
Originally posted by jimthegreek
the new TL does not have a "TRUE" cold air intake. Its not attached from the front induction to the actual intake inlet.. So its not really forcing air into the intake system....
Putting colder air into the intake and throttle body improves HP and gas mileage, depending on how you drive it. Injen is shooting for about 12hp gain through the intake..
I'd like to see what they get out of it... anything over 5hp would be nice...
the new TL does not have a "TRUE" cold air intake. Its not attached from the front induction to the actual intake inlet.. So its not really forcing air into the intake system....
Putting colder air into the intake and throttle body improves HP and gas mileage, depending on how you drive it. Injen is shooting for about 12hp gain through the intake..
I'd like to see what they get out of it... anything over 5hp would be nice...
I think the same way. Your performance upgrade should be more efficient to make those cold air into the engine. With the proper ratio of cold air and gas, you could generate more HP for sure.
#11
Re: CAI intake coming out soon....
Originally posted by jimthegreek
I'm dropping my car off on wednesday at Injen to haev them R&D their Cold Air Intake system...
They'll have my car for 3 days.. and stated that they will dyno the car before and after 3 times.... I cant wait to see the results.. Hopefully its something similar to the G35 Coupe intake they did that brought the motor alive...
Ill let you guys know how it goes..
I'm dropping my car off on wednesday at Injen to haev them R&D their Cold Air Intake system...
They'll have my car for 3 days.. and stated that they will dyno the car before and after 3 times.... I cant wait to see the results.. Hopefully its something similar to the G35 Coupe intake they did that brought the motor alive...
Ill let you guys know how it goes..
Oh yea, could you post some pics of you ride. You have the color combo I'm looking to get in the 05. I also plan to lower with 19's as soon as I leave the dealer. I would love to see what it would look like.
#12
i posted pics of my car already somewhere...
http://acura-tl.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=68230
Thats with the 18's on it
http://acura-tl.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=68230
Thats with the 18's on it
#14
Cool I hope the gains are worth it. A true Cai on my 01 CLS mad a world of difference. I really need one for this car. I keep hitting the rev limiter cause I dont know the engine well enuff yet to be able to tell when to shift by engine tone.
#17
They are completing the final product today.... Running the final dyno tests and i get to pick the vehicle up. They want me to drive the car around for about 2-3 weeks to make sure i dont have any issues like check engine light, stalling or anything else. At that time, they want me to return the vehicle for a couple hours, do one more dyno, make sure the vehicle is still performing the same with the CAI, and from there, the intake goes to production and should be seen on the market in 2 weeks.. He told me that the intake should be available sometime around February 15, and a SRP of 249.99.. So i would say you'll be able to pick it up for about 210-220 from a vendor...
I'll take pics later today of the intake system and post up a copy of the dyno sheet..
I'll take pics later today of the intake system and post up a copy of the dyno sheet..
#19
Originally posted by jimthegreek
Initial dyno run this evening before i left showed 13hp.... their pushing for over 15hp... gonna re-do the bends and see if they can make it up...
im very happy with it so far...
Initial dyno run this evening before i left showed 13hp.... their pushing for over 15hp... gonna re-do the bends and see if they can make it up...
im very happy with it so far...
wow. that sounds pretty good. i'd definitely be interested in one down the road if it's worth it.
#24
So far, the vehicle tested at 13hp more... but the way it was setup wouldnt be C.A.R.B legal yet, they are revising the final product today, re-dynoing it and then i get to pick up the vehicle....
Yes, i do get to keep a final product for myself for free... They do that for letting them use your vehicle.. Taking teh car back at the end of the month for R&D for a full cat-back exhaust system as well.
The CAI only makes the motor a little louder, but thats only at over 5,000 RPM's, the motor starts screaming once VTECH kicks in..... other than that, you really cant notice a difference except the slight whistling noise that is normal with CAI....
Product should be available to the public around mid- feburary.
Yes, i do get to keep a final product for myself for free... They do that for letting them use your vehicle.. Taking teh car back at the end of the month for R&D for a full cat-back exhaust system as well.
The CAI only makes the motor a little louder, but thats only at over 5,000 RPM's, the motor starts screaming once VTECH kicks in..... other than that, you really cant notice a difference except the slight whistling noise that is normal with CAI....
Product should be available to the public around mid- feburary.
#26
Originally posted by jimthegreek
So far, the vehicle tested at 13hp more... but the way it was setup wouldnt be C.A.R.B legal yet, they are revising the final product today, re-dynoing it and then i get to pick up the vehicle....
Yes, i do get to keep a final product for myself for free... They do that for letting them use your vehicle.. Taking teh car back at the end of the month for R&D for a full cat-back exhaust system as well.
The CAI only makes the motor a little louder, but thats only at over 5,000 RPM's, the motor starts screaming once VTECH kicks in..... other than that, you really cant notice a difference except the slight whistling noise that is normal with CAI....
Product should be available to the public around mid- feburary.
So far, the vehicle tested at 13hp more... but the way it was setup wouldnt be C.A.R.B legal yet, they are revising the final product today, re-dynoing it and then i get to pick up the vehicle....
Yes, i do get to keep a final product for myself for free... They do that for letting them use your vehicle.. Taking teh car back at the end of the month for R&D for a full cat-back exhaust system as well.
The CAI only makes the motor a little louder, but thats only at over 5,000 RPM's, the motor starts screaming once VTECH kicks in..... other than that, you really cant notice a difference except the slight whistling noise that is normal with CAI....
Product should be available to the public around mid- feburary.
#27
Originally posted by Lore
How do we get involved with having companies perform R&D on our cars? It's like beta-testing... fun!
How do we get involved with having companies perform R&D on our cars? It's like beta-testing... fun!
There's really nothing else out there to R&D at the moment.. normally they go after sponsered vehicles(show cars) as they can use them to show off at shows.....
#28
Originally posted by JPTLS03
So it dynoed with 15hp gains? 285hp?
So it dynoed with 15hp gains? 285hp?
Assuming it gives a 15hp gain, which seems like a lot for an intake on a car with an already aggressive set up . . .
The 15 hp. gain probably does not occur when the car is making peak hp. of 270, but rather when it is making less horsepower, so you get 235 instead of 220 at 5500 RPM (just an example).
#30
Originally posted by jimthegreek
Incorrect.
At the crank, the motor is pulling 281hp as of this morning.
Incorrect.
At the crank, the motor is pulling 281hp as of this morning.
#32
Are they measuring wheel hp, then calculating crank? Or measuring crank hp (I would be surprised).
Also, when are you going to post photos with the volks, I have not seen any yet, your others are the ziggens - thanks!
Also, when are you going to post photos with the volks, I have not seen any yet, your others are the ziggens - thanks!
#33
Originally posted by need4spd
Are they measuring wheel hp, then calculating crank? Or measuring crank hp (I would be surprised).
Also, when are you going to post photos with the volks, I have not seen any yet, your others are the ziggens - thanks!
Are they measuring wheel hp, then calculating crank? Or measuring crank hp (I would be surprised).
Also, when are you going to post photos with the volks, I have not seen any yet, your others are the ziggens - thanks!
#34
i dont want to keep throwing these numbers out until i actually get the Dyno sheet in front of me.....
I keep getting these numbers by email or by phone... so once i pick it up tonight, ill just scan in the dyno sheet and you guys can see for yourselfs..
I keep getting these numbers by email or by phone... so once i pick it up tonight, ill just scan in the dyno sheet and you guys can see for yourselfs..
#36
Originally posted by LVSBB6
Impressive gaines.
How loud is the Injen CAI compared with stock airbox?
Impressive gaines.
How loud is the Injen CAI compared with stock airbox?
#38
Hope to see pics soon. Brahyw8 is correct in saying the max gains would not be at peak. The intake probably frees up some low to mid range power. Jimthegreek, you are one lucky sob for getting into r&d with Injen, good luck with the exhaust system. I dont think they will be able to make too much power with that and keep it carb legal. As far as I understand if the upgrade makes teh vehicle loose its ULEV status it wont be carb legal. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
#39
Originally posted by acur8ly
Hope to see pics soon. Brahyw8 is correct in saying the max gains would not be at peak. The intake probably frees up some low to mid range power. Jimthegreek, you are one lucky sob for getting into r&d with Injen, good luck with the exhaust system. I dont think they will be able to make too much power with that and keep it carb legal. As far as I understand if the upgrade makes teh vehicle loose its ULEV status it wont be carb legal. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Hope to see pics soon. Brahyw8 is correct in saying the max gains would not be at peak. The intake probably frees up some low to mid range power. Jimthegreek, you are one lucky sob for getting into r&d with Injen, good luck with the exhaust system. I dont think they will be able to make too much power with that and keep it carb legal. As far as I understand if the upgrade makes teh vehicle loose its ULEV status it wont be carb legal. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.