burnt connector and pigtail cost me $141.13
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burnt connector and pigtail cost me $141.13
I went to the acura dealer yesterday because my passenger side fog light wasn't working due to a burnt connector. They told me it would just cost me couple dollars to replace them and will install for free w/o any appointment since it's a small job. It sounded too good to be true so I rushed to my dealer but of course, life isn't that easy. I had to pay for the connectors and pigtail(whatever that is) plus the labor because i had installed an aftermarket fog lights and that voids the warranty. So, at the end I paid $141.13.(the price I paid for being the worst DIY guy). Regardless, I did not have a problem for having to pay but what I want to do now is to prevent that from happening in the future. On the reciept that they gave me it said to replace the fog lights back to stock or go to a lower wattage bulb. So my million dollar question is what fog lights (preferably white or blue in color) can i buy that won't burn out my connectors???? If anyone is currently using one that doesn't burn out connectors, please let me know.... THANK YOU
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i changed my fog lamps to true 6000K HID. They run on less wattage and are cooler than stock bulbs but have 3x's the light output. They are not cheap, $280 but the performance and coloration cannot be compared to ANY halogen bulbs on the market.
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Ryan Christopher
Find a standard wattage bulb that is blue in color. There are several manufactures out there that offer them. I believe the factory wattage is 55w. That is standard for most car holagen bulbs. If you where running after market ones, they where more then likely 100w bulbs. The packaging would have said for off road use only!! There is a way around it, but if you are not a DIY guy then you won't want to do it.
If you have any knowledge of how to use a relay, you can wire up the high output bulbs using it. This will preserve your factory harness. BTW, the pigtail is the part that plugs onto the back of the bulb. I have seen several of them burn up do to high output bulbs.
The other solution is to find a 55w blue bulb. Here is just an example. Example
Jason
If you have any knowledge of how to use a relay, you can wire up the high output bulbs using it. This will preserve your factory harness. BTW, the pigtail is the part that plugs onto the back of the bulb. I have seen several of them burn up do to high output bulbs.
The other solution is to find a 55w blue bulb. Here is just an example. Example
Jason
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^ Pretty much. As long as it has the same (or lower) wattage as the stock bulb you should be fine.
It might not be as bright as whatever high wattage bulb you have in there now. But hell, you won't be paying $140 every few months. That has to count for something..
It might not be as bright as whatever high wattage bulb you have in there now. But hell, you won't be paying $140 every few months. That has to count for something..
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
^ Pretty much. As long as it has the same (or lower) wattage as the stock bulb you should be fine.
It might not be as bright as whatever high wattage bulb you have in there now. But hell, you won't be paying $140 every few months. That has to count for something..![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
It might not be as bright as whatever high wattage bulb you have in there now. But hell, you won't be paying $140 every few months. That has to count for something..
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Ryan Christopher
Originally Posted by sjkforever
Yea dont wanna pay another $140 in couple months....plus i dont see the big difference anyway....i just dont like the yellowish color of stock fog lights...
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Ryan Christopher
Originally Posted by crazymjb
Is it the heat from the bulb that is burning melting these things or is it the current draw? If it is the ladder, aren't their fuses to prevent that?
Mike
Mike
Originally Posted by zena22
If you were to change to the more expensive 6000k hid bulbs, would you still need to get 55w or since they run cooler could you get 100w without a problem?
I hope this helps, if you have any other questions let me know. Jason
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Ryan Christopher
Originally Posted by Napsoner
How do you wire up the Hid fogs to work with your park lights?
To get it to come on with the parking lights just requires you change the turn on source, from fog lights to the parking lights. All the wires are right there at the headlamps under the hood.
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Originally Posted by sjkforever
I had to pay for the connectors and pigtail(whatever that is) plus the labor because i had installed an aftermarket fog lights and that voids the warranty.
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
Its the physical current draw. I 100 watt bulb is drawing about 10 amps worth of current, the problem is, the wiring was only meant to do a max of about 60 watts. This causes the wire to physically overheat. That is why they are burning up.
HIDs are a different beast all together. HID's don't draw current in the same way a halogen bulb does. There is no filament in the bulb, rather a gas that is excited by a high voltage charge and low current. 6000k is actually the light rating on the bulb. HID bulbs run from about 3000k-12000k. The lower the # the whiter the light, the higher the number the more purple it is, with blue being in the middle. The factory bulbs on the car are 3600k bulbs, that is why they are whiter then what you see on a BMW, Nissan or Toyota.
I hope this helps, if you have any other questions let me know. Jason
HIDs are a different beast all together. HID's don't draw current in the same way a halogen bulb does. There is no filament in the bulb, rather a gas that is excited by a high voltage charge and low current. 6000k is actually the light rating on the bulb. HID bulbs run from about 3000k-12000k. The lower the # the whiter the light, the higher the number the more purple it is, with blue being in the middle. The factory bulbs on the car are 3600k bulbs, that is why they are whiter then what you see on a BMW, Nissan or Toyota.
I hope this helps, if you have any other questions let me know. Jason
Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
If you get a set that is meant for the car, if the bulbs where H4's, you would buy a H4 replacement HID. They would be plug and play for the most part, you would only have to hook up a ground and 12 volt wire to the battery. Then when you turn the fog lights on they would come on.
To get it to come on with the parking lights just requires you change the turn on source, from fog lights to the parking lights. All the wires are right there at the headlamps under the hood.
To get it to come on with the parking lights just requires you change the turn on source, from fog lights to the parking lights. All the wires are right there at the headlamps under the hood.
Bulb coloration:
3000K yellow
4300K yellowish/white (stock)
5000K pure white
6000k violet white
8000k deeper blue white
10000k purple
the 4300k is all around the best temp (stock), has the best illumination quality and coloration all in one. generally when you get better color, you lose illumination, i.e. the higher the "K" rating, the lower the light output. coloration is given off by the projector, each is different due to the lens, bowl and cutoff shield.
the stock fog lamp is a 9006 bulb and the stock low beam is and HID D2S bulb. to wire the fogs to work independantly from the headlights, it requires either a whole wiring harness with aftermarket switch mounted somewhere or installation of a relay or DRL module. the drl modules have been sold out on the web for some time, i would love to get one tho.
hope this clears some of the HID mystery up.....i have spent way too much time on hidplanet.com, which is an endless database of hid knowledge.
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wow.....thanks for the informations guys.....now only if someone could tell me where i can get these 55W fog lights that will fit perfectly in the TL.....i wasnt sure if i could order any fog lights and they would be universal or not....thanx again
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i bought the H.I.D foglights for my car and it costed me 40 bucks the part that killed me was the installation from Acura Dealerships 150 Dollars! God that's alot! but yeah, it should've been covered cause Acura states in the manual that any after market parts you install is covered for 1 year! that's about it. its confirmed by Acura Service department too.
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Originally Posted by Aznpersuasion
i bought the H.I.D foglights for my car and it costed me 40 bucks the part that killed me was the installation from Acura Dealerships 150 Dollars! God that's alot! but yeah, it should've been covered cause Acura states in the manual that any after market parts you install is covered for 1 year! that's about it. its confirmed by Acura Service department too.
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those are halogens that claim "HID" but are not really. As long as they are within sotck wattage specs you should be ok with warranty issues.
$150 for install of fog light bulbs, i had my suspension changed out for $349 from the dealer
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well I didn't buy the light bulbs from pep boys or anything like that i bought it from Japan lol... so it better be good as hell! lol
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Originally Posted by Aznpersuasion
well I didn't buy the light bulbs from pep boys or anything like that i bought it from Japan lol... so it better be good as hell! lol
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