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Old 08-19-2010, 09:49 PM
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Question bolted tl-s or 2011 stang v6 who'll win

hey guys my buddy is picking up his brand new 2011 mustang v6 hardtop with 6 speed manual. he thinks that he can take me and wants to throw money on it.. i have a fully bolted 2g tl-s auto my mods are in my sig

im going to race him from a 10 mph roll in first.. just wondering do i have a chance or no?
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I wouldn't do it ..

300hp / 280tq w/ a 6 speed manual .. eek.

Also 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.7 at 102.0 mph .. eek.

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You're toast if he can drive.
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It's a truly sad day when what's been known as a chick car for the last couple decades can put up a valiant fight against a 335 and an IS350. Oh well, I respect Ford for not sucking up the bailout money.
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Originally Posted by TylerT
I wouldn't do it ..

300hp / 280tq w/ a 6 speed manual .. eek.

Also 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.7 at 102.0 mph .. eek.
WHAT?!
I guess I won't be messing with any 'Stangs...! JEEZ!!!
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Weren't you the guy who put down hilariously low dyno numbers given your mods?

I wouldn't mess with him.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
It's a truly sad day when what's been known as a chick car for the last couple decades can put up a valiant fight against a 335 and an IS350. Oh well, I respect Ford for not sucking up the bailout money.
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the new mustangs are fast ... i wouldn't do it he would def win unless he cant shift, thats the only way you will have a chance
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even with a bad driver the op is toast
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damn im gonna just run him anyways just for fun but ill make sure not to put money on it... because the guy knows how to drive stick real good but hasnt driven a car with that much power before.. so ill run him just to see how close i keep up then ill let u guys know in a few days

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The Mustang also weighs a little more than the TL-s. I'd have to say he'd still beat you, but not by all that much. From a 1st gear roll he should probably take a 1/2 car, then by the top of 2nd 1 car. By the end of 3rd he should walk you, 2+ cars. I guess 2+ cars really isn't all that close lol, but it ain't that bad.
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he should pull 2 cars with a good launch
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Race him for fun! I'm pretty sure you will get beat but hey it doesn't hurt to see how bad he beats you by!
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^exactly i just wanna see with all my mods how close i fair to that mustang of his just for fun. plus im gona take out some extra weight like my subs and back seat and spare tire etc and try to race him on a empty tank

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Even though he's suppose to win, just race him. Anything can happen on the streets!!
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
It's a truly sad day when what's been known as a chick car for the last couple decades can put up a valiant fight against a 335 and an IS350. Oh well, I respect Ford for not sucking up the bailout money.
Credit Ford's pre-market collapse decision generate cash reserves by mortgaging it's assets. This negated any need for Govie welfare.
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Run him on 3 beeps from 10mph but jump on the 2nd beep and clip his bumper when he passes you! Hehehe jk
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Yeah if it was last gen V6 stang you might have a chance.. The new ones haul ass..I tried to take one on my 08 TL-S with a 6-speed and got smoked... so your 2G probably wouldn't stand a chance..sorry bud.. you could race him just for kicks but dont put cash on it..
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he offered me a half or full car head start what are my chances now? hes making me angry now lol

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well since every assumes the stang will pull +2 car lengths and if he gives you 1 car length for a head start hell still beat you by 1 lol
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Originally Posted by kdawg8526
he offered me a half or full car head start what are my chances now? hes making me angry now lol
When I used to street race a lot, this was a common thing I did. However I would back up behind the starting line to whatever distance we agreed on. This way it gives me more room to run him down. If your friend does not care, make sure that you pull up one carlength in front of the starting line. It makes a big difference in a close race.

Ask him for 1 and the move. One car in front of the start and he goes when he sees you go. That should account for an additional carlength depending on his reflexes.
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you will lose!!! but ... i beat a 4.6 mustang at the track by .3s so i guess anything is possible.
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Originally Posted by Foreels
you will lose!!! but ... i beat a 4.6 mustang at the track by .3s so i guess anything is possible.
There is a 100hp difference between the 05-09 4.6L and the '10 5.0L as well as a full second and almost 10mph in the 1/4. The new 5.0 is no joke.
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run him!! i will gurantee that u will edge him out

My buddy has a 02 type s with just intake and a custom J pipe done by me and we manage to pull on the new v6 mustang.

Let me find the video and i will send it to u.. Race the guy like 3 or 4 time..

NUMBERS DONT MEAN SHIT..
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my cars outta commission right now due to damn auto tranny blowing out on me. i might do a 6 speed swap now lol then we'll see who'll win against the new mustang
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Damn, I thought you meant the 3G TL-S. That would be a very close match, but a 2G will be hard-pressed to keep up, auto or 6speed.
Old 09-16-2010, 02:05 PM
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Damn, I thought you meant the 3G TL-S. That would be a very close match, but a 2G will be hard-pressed to keep up, auto or 6speed.
Automatic to Automatic a 2nd gen TLS is just a quick as a 3rd gen TLS, they never made a manual 2nd gen TLS just in the CLS. With his mods he would be a bit quicker than 3rd Gen TLS auto, manual good run.
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Originally Posted by Monte TLS,MAX
Automatic to Automatic a 2nd gen TLS is just a quick as a 3rd gen TLS, they never made a manual 2nd gen TLS just in the CLS. With his mods he would be a bit quicker than 3rd Gen TLS auto, manual good run.
You really think so? The 3rd gen TL-S auto is consistantly quicker than the 2nd Gen TL-S auto. Most of the 3rd gen TL-S autos I have seen run an average of around 14.6-14.7@ around 97MPH. The 2nd Gen TL-S runs an average of 14.9-15.0@94-95MPH. I believe the 2nd gen TL-S responds better to mods from what I have seen though.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
You really think so? The 3rd gen TL-S auto is consistantly quicker than the 2nd Gen TL-S auto. Most of the 3rd gen TL-S autos I have seen run an average of around 14.6-14.7@ around 97MPH. The 2nd Gen TL-S runs an average of 14.9-15.0@94-95MPH. I believe the 2nd gen TL-S responds better to mods from what I have seen though.
I'd have to agree here. From what I've seen the 3G TL-s 5AT is faster. I'd have to say the 2G TL-s with a 6 speed swap and the mods of the OP, it should be a good run. Could go either way driver dependent.

I'd have to say though with a 0-60 of 5.1 I'd have thought it'd trap higher than 102...
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
You really think so? The 3rd gen TL-S auto is consistantly quicker than the 2nd Gen TL-S auto. Most of the 3rd gen TL-S autos I have seen run an average of around 14.6-14.7@ around 97MPH. The 2nd Gen TL-S runs an average of 14.9-15.0@94-95MPH. I believe the 2nd gen TL-S responds better to mods from what I have seen though.
From my experience around here nope, none of them trap 97 stock, they trap from 94-96....so from what I have experienced/seen nope. We had one BTW and it could never trap higher than 95 never. I know about elevation, tire pressure etc etc...... have been tracking for 20 yrs now!
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Originally Posted by Monte TLS,MAX
From my experience around here nope, none of them trap 97 stock, they trap from 94-96....so from what I have experienced/seen nope. We had one BTW and it could never trap higher than 95 never. I know about elevation, tire pressure etc etc...... have been tracking for 20 yrs now!
Yes but yours was a lemon
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Yes but yours was a lemon
Lol, it kept up with a few other auto TLS's when I had it. But you are right it was......the last service visit Ihad with it the service advisor looked up its born on date and guess what it was on a Monday!
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Pick a random 2G TL-S, and a random 3G TL-S, and 99% of the time the 3G will win. And I know the 2G TL-S never came with a manual, but OP said he was thinking of putting in a 6speed.
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i thought this thread was about a 2g tl vs a stang lol

not 2g vs 3g.. but i think with my mods i could take out a stock auto 3g tl-s
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Let's not forget the V6 Stang comes with a choice of either a 2.73 or 3.31 final drive. I just read a road test of one with a 3.31 running 13.9 @ 101, which is well within reach of a bolted 3G 6MT. All else being equal in this particular test, the 2.73 equipped car would be in the low 14's.
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With the OP mods along with a 6 speed swap, his car will be a beast!
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Let's not forget the V6 Stang comes with a choice of either a 2.73 or 3.31 final drive. I just read a road test of one with a 3.31 running 13.9 @ 101, which is well within reach of a bolted 3G 6MT. All else being equal in this particular test, the 2.73 equipped car would be in the low 14's.
Very interesting point. I was unaware that Ford gave a choice of final drive ratios. I bet the 31MPG rating they are boasting is for the 2.73 ratio. Of course I would opt for the 3.31
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Originally Posted by kdawg8526
but i think with my mods i could take out a stock auto 3g tl-s
Not without a new tranny 1st
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