stellarsteve90

stellarsteve90

i was really interested in this car thinkin i was on the verge of gettin a steal so contacted the guy an asked him if i could meet up with him to look at the car and he requested that i pay him first before i see it.i told him i will not pay him till i see it first and he replied back using profane language and was claiming i don't even have the money for it.

Acura604

nice color.. pretty rare to see this combo. too bad the seller is a dork.

Goosew

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Cummon.

You had to know what you were getting into though.

It had to either be BULL$hit or a pretty bad Salvage vehicle.


I gaurantee this is not "suspected" fraud. This seller is a D-bag.

stellarsteve90

It has no salvage title.He said that everything is in excellent condition and never had any problems with it.

stellarsteve90

what do you recommend i do then....still try to negotiate with him or just leave it alone?

piggydog

I know I haven't been around the block as much as some but seriously no one is selling an 07 w/nav for 11k. A salvaged one is worth more than that. Why would some stranger basically give you another 14k+ extra value for free. People aren't this nice, no one's going around giving away 14k+ for kicks. Also if you find a smoking deal that you really want you should not post the link. It's just going to end up with someone driving off with your future car.

flyromeo3

dont negotiate until you SEE the car.

if he wants money before you even see the car, in my eyes its a scam.

stellarsteve90

The reason why i posted it was just to warn others that are interested in it that they might be gettin into something that they might not like.I don't think i would take the risk.....

stellarsteve90

...exactly,the kelly blue book value price for a 07 with navi is over 20000 thats insane offering it for only 11000.

nhokt

Why would you try to negotiate with a scammer, I 100% guarantee that you will lose.

paz840

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Don't do it...

flyromeo3

lol

rockstar143

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If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. Report him to autotrader. He's giving honest seller's or decent people a bad reputation.

LoveMyTL-S

I reported it as a fraud to Autotrader's fraud department. OP, I'd advise you do the same.

Goosew

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Do you believe everything you hear/see..

Part of the online buying process also includes some common sense on the part of the buyer..

(eg. if the deal sounds too good to be true, it generally is) Esp. if you've already checked the kelly blue book value and seen such a large descrepancy..

Why are you going to waste any more of your time with the seller. No point negotiating unless you're just trying to F*(k with him!.

stellarsteve90

I'm totally done with him....and i did report it to Autotrader.

108tls

X2, if the car as good as he said or described then why would he not make more money on it buy selling it back to the stealership? even those crooks would pay higher than $11K he is listed for. he would at least get an offert of somewhere between $15K to $17K. my

DeathMetal

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Listing is down...

Cerezo

You must not have been browsing the local craigslist lately. There's tons of cars like that.

Goosew

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LOL. No Dude. The ones on craigslist that are '07s with 15k on the odo, are selling for like $3600 - $4800

(which admittedly isn't much better than what we saw)

imj0257

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Pay to see the car? wtf kinda bullshit is that? lol.

stellarsteve90

what!!!you serious!!..are you sure there isn't a catch somewhere...[

thait

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when the deal is too good to be true, IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE! if you are really that desperate then have fun losing your money.

djflex167

LMAO wow lol!! u guys are funny!

Goosew

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Seriously, are you kidding???

Because, if not you DESERVE to be scammed!.

enigmaos

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Timb227

iTrader: (3)

How did you contact him? E-Mail? What's his e-mail...well all ask him to see it.

rockstar143

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OMG...when I was selling my car last year on there...there are so many scammers out there. And yes, unless someone is "dumping" a car for a good reason (need to sell fast, divorce, leaving country etc) it's usually a scam. I had someone write to me say they would send me a check for double the amount and just take what I needed, they just needed my shipping address and full information. Obviously a fishing scheme and who knows what else. So I had fun with them and pretended I fell for it...etc...fun times...until I finally, after a week, wrote the chick and email telling her I knew she was a POS liar and scam artist and how dare they play people in this emotional and financial time of need etc where people are trying to conduct legitimate sales etc.

Needless to say she never responded after that.

candrews

OK, if anyone wants to have some fun...I emailed him yesterday and basically said that I would be in FL next week on business and have cash$ if he wanted to meet...and this is his reply (btw...the Autotrader Ad is still down)

Antonio Rodriguez <antoniow2010@live.com>

Hello!
Thank you for your interest in my Acura.The price is $11,000.
Excellent mechanical condition, no drivability issues, all of the electrical and optional equipment works without any unpleasant surprises.
No liens,clear title,no accidents,perfect condition.Currently the car has 25,000 miles on it.
Don't miss it ! Where are you located?
The selling reason it's my divorce settlement.
If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to email me.
Best regards,
Antonio R.

rockstar143

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Poor Antonio...getting divorced and now getting shafted out of 9 grand in equity in his car. Maybe he just doesn't know what it's worth.

MOST of the scams on craigslist were men/women in divorce situations.

I would ask him why the divorce is forcing the sale and why at such a low price. 2 can play that game.

Ganplosive

OK honestly? have you ever heard of anyone say "pay me first and I'll SHOW you the product"?

rockstar143

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I was being super sarcastic bud...he has a pretty cool story. But I wouldn't fall for it.

Goosew

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Another one???

Even with this one I'm VERY sceptical..... (maybe not such a great quality).

Goosew

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This is another one on Autotrader if someone wants to take a go at it..... (another borderline in my books)

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...25&cardist=680

rockstar143

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at 19K with past 50K miles with us almost in the 3rd year production run of a new generation TL, I would be more inclined to believe this one. My frined just got an 07 for 25K but it was certified and it had 18K miles on it.

jvette

Just sold my 07 TL with Tech for the residual value at lease end through the dealership where I purchased my newTL. The Residual was $21,700 and the car had 15,800 miles on it. Dealer would have put it on the lot certified for about $26,000 but they would have had some room to play.

stellarsteve90

That is exactly what he wrote when i emailed him....

Souljah

Why? it has 52K miles on a 07...

My 05 barely has that. Price seems ok to me?

Goosew

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Yes, you're right. I didn't realize it was a NON navi.