jmkiang

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HIDPlanet?
$108.99+shipping/pair

That was the link provided by JnC but I was wondering if anyone paid less for them? I noticed the HIDs on my 05 are yellowish

Thanks

TeknoKing

Hello,

Well if you are not going with at least 5000K and above (6000K is optimum for whiteness), they will remain yellowish....

$110 for Philips? VERY cheap...I think they are knocks offs... See if there is a blood stain in the lens...a trademark symbol. (Philips = Germany, not Taiwan)

Good luck in your search.

jmkiang

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^ They are on sale from $199.99+shipping/pair

Well, the way I see it is if the guy doing all the headlight mods (JnC) is using this site, they can't be fakes... can they??

Apparently these bulbs are just labeled wrong (they are infact 4300K).

I've seen some newer stock TLs that have much whiter HIDs than mine. I have also read in many posts that the stock Osrams lose lumens and color.

Can someone attest that these Philip bulbs are white? If not, whats a good bulb replacement (white without losing too much output)?

TeknoKing

You can get Philips 6000K Ultinon D2S HID for pure white

Or you can try other brands. I love Xetronic 6000K D2C.. Awesome color and very bright.

jmkiang

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Do you have them on your car? Can I see some pics?

JnC

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The cheapest and most reliable place online to buy 85122+ is indeed HIDplanet.com. I should know since I have bought a few pairs from them in the past. They are not always available and HIDplanet gets them in batches so if you can get a pair then jump on the deal since a batch comes in every month or so . BTW here is a picture of how they would come, two boxes of genuine Phillips 85122+ bulbs, my most recent pair.

JnC

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BTW if you think the HIDs on your car are yellow now then these bulbs are not meant for you. These are rated at 4200k and will stay around that color for good. Granted these are the brightest OEM 35 watt HID bulbs on the market but the color is not for everyone. If higher color is what you are shooting for then you may want to try something else rather than the 85122+.

TeknoKing

I don't see the the 'blood stain'... I've seen plenty of fake philips...

But then again, you've been having a good experience with them, so they must be good.

JnC

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^^ The stain is there, the camera didnt pick it up.

Another idea is to get a pair of used 85122+ bulbs, a set can be had for $60 or so and since these dont loose their intensity over their life you can try a set and if you dont like the color switch to a higher temperature bulb.

Personally I wouldnt recommend anything else but the 85122+ bulbs. Once you get use to the yellowish output you'll love the 3400 lumens worth of output . Ask kennedy or GLowrdr who are using 85122+ in their headlights.

Kennedy

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Exactly...

6000K = 30% less light output than these. The higher the Kelvin, the less output.

Here's what a a set of ZKW lenses and Phillips 85122+ bulbs gives you...
- Props to "lights" from his headlight mod thread.

The "sea of light". No :ghey: blue hid color, just pure white light, and lot's of it, focused in the right direction...

My headlights are like nothing else on the road...

Tripnbeats

the blood stain occurs in the philips ultinon bulbs 6000k thats how u can tell if they are real ultinon.... our cars and all acuras use osram bulbs. they look like 6000k because of the projectors...but arent.

JnC

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A little comparison between the two sorts of Phillips I have, the left one is brand new 85122+ bulb from HIDplanet, the one in the middle is 85122WX (Phillips 6000k Ultinon) and the one on the right is a use 85122+ from an 08 RX350. The virgin 85122+ has a very small salt residue, ultinons have a bit more and the used 85122+ has the most due to usage.

mrchan625

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are these bulbs going to fit in my 2nd gen tl if so is it just plug and play?

Tripnbeats

plug n play yes....fit no.....u need d2r for the 2nd gen. the ones being shown are d2s the notches are different where it gets positioned on the lens and d2r has a shield on the glass on the bulb so that theres no glare for on coming traffic.

jmkiang

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OK cool. I think I'll go for a set of new 85122+'s. Thinking about getting hte ZKW replica lens too... my only issue is opening the assembly. I want to try to do it myself but at the same time, I'd rather just pay JnC to do it, replace the lens and install the CCFLs. Hmmmmmmmm......

EDIT: too slow

TeknoKing

^^^

You need to purchase D2R or D2C bulbs, and they will fit just fine...

I have a pair of genuine D2R Philips Ultinon 6000k with about 30 hours of use.

jchcmax

This is absolutely true! I bought some used Philips 85122+ to put in my TL and saw that the Philips 85122+ were yellower than the stock ones. I was dissapointed and kept the stock ones in. I still have them if anyone wants to buy them. I was hoping for a whiter color than stock but that didn't happen. By the way the name on stock bulbs in my car is "Osram Xenarc", made in Germany. Also, the torx screw on the bulb housing had a raised dimple in the middle so a regular torx bit can't be used. Fortunately I had a small enough flat head to fit inside to turn the screw.

nokiaboy808

I was thinking of buying a pair of 85122+ bulbs... but i am not going for the yellowish color which was said by JNC. But in this picture they look whiter than stock? Is it just the ZKW replica lens that are making it look more white than they really are?

Tripnbeats

our cars from the factory should be coming with osram 4300k bulbs not philips...the philips are whiter because they are 4100k and the osram bluer from 4300k ive had my headlight replaced a few times....theyve always placed osram bulbs in them.

nokiaboy808

yeah i know ours comes with the osrams but the stock lights don't look as white or blue as the 85122+ is that picture above IMO. the light in the picture looks bluish white...
and ain't the philips 4200k? 100k less than the osrams.

JCL622

there is a bit of a yellowish hue; but i've noticed increased visibility at night by alot.

i haven't even had time to adjust the lines on the headlights yet, which i assume will make the visible line even better.

bluer isn't brighter, and when it comes to things like headlights, safety first man

usc

I just have one quick advice for people trying to gauge "color" from a digital photo. It all depends on the White Balance. What you see is not what you get on the photo (and vice versa).

The only thing for certain from that picture is that you see the clear cut off of the ZKW's. The amount of light and color of light is all relative, depending on exposure and white balance settings on the camera when the photo was taken.

Brandon24pdx

You want these then:

http://www.aftermarketbulbsshop.com/...phi-cm-d2s.htm

Spendier than the 85122 or 85122+ from HIDplanet but these are the real Philips 5000k CM's rated at 3100lm and the only place *ive* seen them properly advertised on the internet.

I'm shopping for a new pair or D2S's but still on the fence which purchase to make.

fredren

anyone ever used the 85123 philips? and whats the difference in relation to the 85122+?

Jays_04TL

check out HIDEXPERT.com
Philips 85123 are very rare & I have not used them. I can agree
that the 85122+ bulbs give you more visibility because I have a
set in my TL now. The 85122+ bulbs just put out a bright "white"
light with blue tint at the top of the projected light & yellow at
the bottom. You can see this from the picture that was put in the thread.

If you took two TL's & put them next to each other, with one TL
that has Philips 85122+ bulbs and the other TL with a set of stock Osrams
you will notice that the Osrams put out a little bit of a blue hue on
the ground. The 85122+ bulbs do not shine blue on the ground at all.
You only see the blue tint at the top point of of light coming out of
the projector.

Nova_GTS

I found them on Ebay for 80 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6636&viewitem=

Nova_GTS

Has anyone ordered/looked at these bulbs?
Do they look legit?

DevilDogge

I dont' see a + on the bulb or on the boxes, and I don't see this fabled "blood stain" either.

1slowtl

it says in the description that the picture is of the 85122 but the auction is for 85122+
I think i might take the plunge and buy a pair.

Rollin Thunder

http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...e21d63ee9b7dd3

Cheapest i've seen them for. Even though slightly used, they come with a 1year warranty. I purchased a set from them a few months ago without any problems. Just my .

1slowtl

I just found these earlier today as well. no problems?

saltysteve

okay im a little confused here. if the stock lights are the same as the Philips 85122+ but less blue why buy the Philips 85122+???
what am i missing here? one of my bulbs went out and i need to replace it but i figured i had to replace them both so why get the Philips 85122+ over stock??

csmeance

the stock bulbs are bluer, thus giving out less light output. As well the old bulbs colorshift reducing light output further. The 85122 doesn't colorshift as much and keeps on giving out more light.

saltysteve

i see. is there a pic of a side by side pic of the stock vs Philips 85122+?

DevilDogge

+1... I wouldn't mind seeing that either. Anyone???

Nova_GTS

Here are the ones I ordered off Ebay - $70 and some change shipped (used 10% discount code)

Do they look legit?
The box says 85122 (not + at the end)
The bulb text is as follows:
PHILIPS GERMANY
D2S 35W 85122+
03V DOT 32F817

Etohprn247

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The company that makes these phillips are selling these in germany for like $25.00 When it comes over to US its over $100+ I went from Stock Osram 4300k to 5k to 6k to kaixen 6.5k etc....now these phillips ds2 85122+ ..... OMG there crazy brighter, I'll never use anything else, these are really bright useable LUMENS! People always move over because it seems like I have hi-beams on lol. I don't use my hi-beam at all. These kinda off white, not really super white, and I would say they're not really yellow? If your going practical then get em! If for looks then these aren't for you.

You can get these at ( retrofitsource.com ) for like $75.00 brandnew! And I don't see any blood on em

Nova_GTS

For anyone interested, I have taken some pictures to show the difference between stock with 75k mi and new bulbs... (sorry, their not perfect, I took them on a cell phone)
Stock is on the passenger side.


Me standing in front of stock

Me standing in front of 85122+

Nova_GTS

Also is it normal for the bulbs to have what looks like a little bit of crust in the chamber when they are brand new?

Nova_GTS

here is one more photo, that I think really shows the color.
Stock fogs vs 81522+