Insider tip from a friend of mine:

AWD in 2007 w/ new design.

 

how reliable is this source?

 

nice - fits in with strategy but my guess is it could come in late 2005 / early 2006. Otherwise it will be revealed at the 2006 NY Auto Show (as per other Acura vehicles):

2003 - TL
2004 - RL
2005 - RDX
2006 - updated TL

 

Very reliable. I dont know if they will come out with reg. TL, and offer AWD later. But I was told Honda/Acura read all the reviews and they are making the changes. They want the RL to be on top. So, we have to wait.

I hope he doesnt get in trouble. =X

May be I should delete these cuz he says they are research people that spends alot time reading all kinds of forum and reviews.

I was told every 4 years new changes happen.

 

Well sorry but I am not paying anymore for an American made/chassis sharing car.
At that point if I'd stay with Acura, it would be a used RL.

 

well i would NOT worry about it, we've been talking about AWD TL for some time now.

in fact its one of the top wishes of the car....

also, we have heard that acura marketing research has asked owners about it, so we know they are at least doing some analyiss around it..

 

oh...and one other thing...

it may be an INTENTIONAL leak...

 

 

I'm holding my breath...

 

I agree with Jerky and how would Aucra find out who your friend was ?

 

I was wondering the same thing... why it is in '07 model... and, what does "new design" mean? Is is just the tiny update in the middle of the model years?

1GTL '95~'98
2GTL '99~'03
3GTL '04~'07 or '08

4GTL '08~ or '09~

We all assume '07 model (on sale at the end of '06) could be the final year of 3GTL series. If the car you're talking about comes out as '07 model (the end of '06), it would be stupid to have 4G TL in '08 (the end of '07). If Acura decides to give 2-yr life of this '07 TL AWD, 4GTL would prolly not be into the market until '09 (the end of '08) (unless they name this '07 model as 4GTL).


I don't know what Acura/Honda is thinking now. Prior to 05RL's sale, I ever saw the report of Honda test-drove SH-AWD on "US Accord" or "JDM Inspire (old model, but driver seat is on the left)" bodies. Hopefully US Honda/Acura could find teh right schedule to stuff SH-AWD into the lineup, and hope TL's schedule would be ahead of Accord's.

 

I think this is very possible but hard to know for sure.

 

hell yes its coming..... i stand correct ( cough cough rets cough cough).

Either its going to be 07 or 08.

 

So, it's the redesign for 3GTL or it's 4GTL, master?

 

If this rumor comes from a salesman, sales mgr, local dealer, etc, all bets are off. We all know how "accurate" these people are.

 

late 80' and early 90' Beta-Method (Honda's original theory of vehicle handling performance)
'92 Direct Yaw Control 4-Wheel Drive
'96 ATTS (Active Torque Transfer System) ATTS lateral torque distribution system for front-wheel drive
'04 SH-AWD (Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive System)


http://www.honda.co.jp/HDTV/news/200...01a/index.html

http://www.world.honda.com/HDTV/news...01a/index.html


https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/i%92m-getting-hammered-klez-virus-attempts-90126/

 

No he just said it was coming out in 2007. so, I thought it would be 2007 TL? maybe 2008 in 2007? Not too sure cuz he won't say any more.

my "friend" works for the HQ. Not the dealer. =)

I'll ask more about it when he's butt drunk with few friends. LOL

I know more about NSX, and up coming cars. =) heheheeh

 

My sources tell me that its going to be redesigned (4GTL). I'm sure we'll hear some news in near future my child, stay tuned!

 

new nsx will be hsc, might have turbo around 500hp

oh and did i tell u that there will be another flagship above RL :iamdreaming:



oh and i forgot about the coupe... it'll have SH-AWD

 

I bet we'll see AWD with the 2006 TL. Remember, the competition for the TL includes Audi A4, the BMW 325, the Infinity G35, etc., and all of those models offer an AWD. So, unless the RL has problems with the SH-AWD, I think Acura would want to be able to compete with the TL's AWD competition sooner rather than later.

 

Now your narrowing it down for Acura..... on who to terminate.

 

 

I thought HOnda america motors is in LA, NOT in florida...

 

http://www.hondacorporate.com/

Looks like most jobs are at Torrance, CA in LA

The Marketing folks are there,..that's typically the dept that recomendations are made in, so that's prob HQ...

 

That the TL will get SH-AWD is nothing new nor "secret". Many executives at Honda including CEO Fukui have been quoted as saying the SH-AWD system will make it to other models, including the Accord and TL.

 

Since the TL and RL share the Accord chassis I would not get too excited about the last post. 10 to 1 they were simply playing with/tuning the RL system before the cars release.

If the TL came out with AWD, and more horsepower (would need to be a minimum of 300 to offset the weight) I would trade in my 04 RIGHT NOW!!

I am praying for a reinstall of the S Type. That was the absolute most assanine move Acura made (killing Type-S). The A-Spec kit is not a substitute for a true S-Type as there is no difference where it counts HORSEPOWER. For all I care they can drop the ULEV status for this model if it translates into more power.

 

I wonder when they will release the next gen TSX. Should be before the TL, right?

 

^ when ever they redesign euro honda accord

 

Probably released on year earlier than the TL.

 

You are Bad!!!!!! =) hehehe

By the way, there are more than marketing people there in CA.

People from Santa Clarita also visits Torrance.

Some times, I might find out sooner than others since I work on branding car makers.
I am working on just that right now for 06 line.

 

What a waste of time this thread is...

Hey, my friend works at McDonald's, and he says that the RL will one day have a V8!!! He's predicting 2010 .. this is coming from a very high-up source!!!!

 

If only you knew you are driving a type S. They never kill the type S, they kill the base model 225hp and rename the type S to just be the TL. Yes they kill the "name" but thats about it.

Just to add to your knowlege the SH-AWD system was tested on the honda inspire AKA as US accord and to add more excitment to this post it was tested with a 6-speed transmission. Reasons why SH-AWD is not on the TL, all I could say tha is NOT for technical or mechanical reasons.

 

Thanks for the info!

If AWD was tested, and was confirmed to work without issue...RELEASE IT! I would have hopped, skipped, AND jumped if they offered AWD as an option on the TL (I don't think I am alone here either).

If they take and tune the 3.5 liter 6, boost the output to 300HP, change up the gearing to make it more aggressive....POOF instant world beater. The review in C&D stated that the TL would have won if it were RWD, but now it can be AWD (SCREW RWD). I just hope they tune the suspension, and provide speed sensitive steering. As it stands the TL is nice, but the suspension (I have the A-Spec) and the steering are way too loose. That is one area where I hope Acura emulates BMW.

 

The fact that the TL has ben on just about everybody's "Best OF" lists doesn't seem to have any impact on you"IF it ain't made somewhere else, it ain't any good" crowd, does it?

 

Just my opinion - If Acura sticks by its current redesign cycle, we should expect an all-new 4th generation TL in 2008, probably released in Oct 2007. Of course, this doesn't mean they won't upgrade the current design along the way. SHAWD might be one of those upgrades and perhaps even a factory version "Type S".

 

Wrong... it would be 2009, released Oct 2008....

2nd gen TL ran from 99-03

99-01 looked the same, mild feature upgrade
02-03 front change, tailight change, Type-S offering (maybe 2001, don't remember)

3rd gen, if it follows the schedule would run from 04-08
04-06 Same look, mild feature updgrade
07-08 Possible looks changes similar to 2nd gen, SH-AWD and some more ponies

4th gen, if it continued to follow suit
09+

 

nice info

 

I agree with your competitive assessment. The primary competing sedans have AWD either standard (e.g. A6) or as an option (e.g. G35, BMW). In my opinion, it's just a matter of time before it's offered on the TL-- or they won't continue to be competitive. It would not be wise for Honda/Acura to offer AWD until the next major TL redesign (probably 2008/09). This is especially important as it would impact re-sale for all of us 3G (2004/05) owners. Although I'm happy with my 05, I would have definitely bought the AWD option if it was available... since I traded an Audi A6 with AWD (which I dearly loved) for the TL (which I dearly love). Kudos to the RETS for sharing the videos as they were helpful.

 

I agree

 

some dealer idiot told me that they releasing a sub SUV to compete against the X3.
i looked at him and laughed.