Regardless, listing up QTR mile times as if they are going to define the outcome is not how it works when people have street encounters.

A race outcome can change when it goes from a dig to a roll.

Which is what I replied to before someone started listing off QTR miles times to say I'm wrong....

All my races started from rolls against other average joe drivers, so all these magazine times don't hold a lot of value on how to decide the outcome. You can assume, but it doesn't necessarily mean you're right.

Look at any thread involving the Evo/STi for example. Those cars have us covered in the QTR mile, yet a lot of members have beat them after 60-70Mph from a roll because those cars don't have a lot to give once they're up there.

 

oh really?....i had the 03 TL-S too before with CAI and catback exhaust,and now i own a 08 TL-S auto,i totally feel 3g Type S is way faster and quick....maybe you had the header as well...but really no idea

 

yeah...agree....even i can beat a stock 350z on my pervious 2g Type S with CAI and catback exhaust...

 

Soley going by 1/4 mile data on this site, my350Z.com, g35driver.com as well as infamous mag times, manual/auto Zs are typically quite a few tenths quicker and a few mph faster than the 2nd and 3rd gen manual TLs. A 3rd gen 6MT TLS is closer, but still not close enough. The auto TLs are no match. The TLS auto is significantly better and not far off from what a manual TL is capable of.

I'd never call an 05-08 5AT Stang "slow". Even in auto form, they're low 14 second cars, many of which are in the upper 13s. They do give up some acceleration to the 5MT cars, but not much. A set of gears and better torque converter is all it takes to unlock the true potential of the 300-315hp 5AT Stang. You're talking about .6 to .8 seconds and about 4mph by just doing these mods.

 

I agree. I certainly wouldn't call 5AT 05-08 Stangs slow at all. There was 1 modded TL-s 5AT that ran 14.0, others mid-high 14s yet apparently the Stang that runs faster than 98% is considered slow.

The TL-s 5AT is still a good .4-.5 and 2-3mph slower than the TL 6MT with a good driver. It would take an I/E at least TL 6MT to take on a 5MT Mustang of that year. I've seen some trap as high as 105-106 stock. Not 1 NA TL has touched that thus far with all the bolt ons. I'm hoping after the tune, that this will happen.

These claims of beating 350z's easily in the AT version of our cars also seems a bit farfetched. If the 5AT from Acura was better, I'd say it'd be much closer vs. an AT Z. Like I said with the Mustang, it should take an I/E 6MT to hang with a stock 6MT Z given equal drivers.

The 370s forget it. Idk how I came relatively close with my friend. After this TP/tune, I have no shot at all. With bolt ons they're trapping 110+. I may see 103-104 on a perfect day. That's like running a 6MT TL-s vs the new 5.0 GT...

 

So your saying the 6MT base TL is capable of 14's flat stock possibly 13's? Not doubting you, but I'd like to see some proof of that.

 

Well, I haven't seen any TL-s 5AT's that have broken 14.5 in stock trim. It may have happened, but I haven't seen it. I believe there were a couple people who ran 14.2 bone stock for the 6MT. I've seen traps as high as 99 for a stock 6MT TL. I'm confident to say that's not the norm, more like 98. I've seen TL-s 5AT anywhere from 95-97. The norm around 96.x.

In regards to the TL 6MT crossing the 1320 in 14.0 BONE stock on stock tires; ehhh. Maybe on a perfect day with a perfect launch and powershifting. Even so, that's really pushing it on stock tires. On some sticky summer tires, I'd say yes.

I will say that when I ran a 14.0, it was on a 2.24 60'. If I was on better tires and got it down to a 2.0x, that would've put me in the 13.6-13.7 range with just CAI/Jpipe, so the potential is there.

 

I thought there was one guy who did 13.9 in a 6MT TL

 

I don't know haha, just saying it "feels" quicker lol. In actuality I think it would be more or less the same. And yes I did have CAI and Headers..The headers make the biggest gains with the 2Gtl. Dyno'd with 20whp gain from the headers alone.

Stock for stock, the 3G TLS is faster. I think it's like 200hp on the 2G vs 230'ish on the 3G 5at

 

13.9 with just an intake. It's definitely not the norm. This was done by a member here, Type-S09.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnC3NyquQRE

 

^^ Last year I ran 14.2x@99mph bone stock, plenty of azine members were there to witness it.

Edit: It's possible to run a lower time but you need to have a perfect launch. I tried at least 7x but couldn't get past the 14.2x. I've had trap speeds as high as 99.8mph so I'm confident a 14 flat is possible.

 

Anyways this topic has been beat to death lol please just let it die. Take your car to the track and have fun

 

In the QTR mile, yes. The street can be a different story when you're starting from 40Mph & onwards.

And I'm not surprised in the least that a 350Z & a G35 site said their cars are faster than us. Some of those guys think they can cars in the 12's.

 

i havent found out yet but our cars should hang with wrx's, srt4, evos?

 

Depends on the age & mods. SRT4s are quick with minor mods.

The Evo's & WRX's will have to be a few years old. The newer ones have a lot of get up & go.

 

^^^ In the vid, the car looks like a type-S ?? Unless he swapped the rims, tailights, bumpers and the trunk lip spoiler from TL-S to a base TL.

*edit* - Nevermind that, I just checked his profile and he does have have Type S tails spoiler and side markers on an 05 TL

 

Glad to see someone trying to keep some perspective around here. That's precisely why I can't frequent this side of the board much anymore.

As if what happens in a magazine or at a standard 1/4 mile drag strip has much relevance to 90% of the threads around here which are purely street related. Many of which involve speeds above the normal 1/4 mile trap ranges of the cars in mention and often times, not from a standing launch.

Not condoning those types of activities, it's just the reality of the situation. It's going to happen and most are going to post about it no matter what so it should be viewed and discussed for what it is, not what it isn't.

 

Best advice / post in this thread.

 

I can beat the OP in my base TL.

 

Ah but he had CAI/UR pulley

 

sure drive to nyc and race me bitch

 

Hey, you're the one that asked which cars you can and cannot beat.
I'll whoop that ass!

 

Ok. Im down

 

Hmmmm....I kind of think of TL owners that way

 

Dont get butt hurt when your type-s gets shut down by a base.

 

relax buddy. it will never happen so might as well end this bs

 

Dont be mad that a base can beat you.

 

I'm in NY. I'll .....in an Accord :gheylaugh:

 

He just doesnt know.

you'd whoop me tho!

 

true with those numbers, but my whip looks better

 

Haha. I'm messin with you. Looks are subjective, but I'd have to agree. If I would've known the TL came in 6MT I would've gotten it over my Accord. I was in a 'coupe' daze when I bought the car though, so who knows. But right now, I wouldn't even think twice about it.

And ehh...those are old numbers. We'll see after some tweaks.

 

lol at the direction of this thread

 

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