sud0007

Any idea on how the 2004 TL wll be priced ..I was almost about to buy 2003 TL with Navi but when I came to know that new one is only a month away ..I thought I'll wait for it!

Ken1997TL

Wait. No one knows the pricing, Honda usually keeps that a secret right up to the last minute.

sud0007

Thanks !Meanwhile i also read another post on the gusses people are making about the prices! Actually,I'm in a big dilemma as my Civic got totalled in an accident earlier this month and I 'm in need of a car ASAP ..I was about to but 2003 TL when I came to know about 2004 TL ..I wanna wait ..But at the same time I'm discouraged by the fact that it woulbe very hyped n overpriced first few months ..leaving people like me who wanna keep it under $35 k (on road) depressed !

Raheel

It might be under 35k, No one knows..

I suspect 33k For W/o Navi, 35k for W/ Navi and 36 w/ 6MT HPT

and 37-38 fully loaded with body kit etc...

mzcomplex

said it'll start around 32G

KZGTR

Talked to my dealer, they said the price will be around 35K.
Most likely this will be the price when it comes out.

driver

Why wouldn't the 2004 TL pricing be similar to the 2003 TL? What major improvements are there that justifies the price increase?

lovemyTL

A Lot...6speed manual, bluetooth, higher HP (we think). It's a total redesign...for the most part.

Ken1997TL

The 6 speed manual has a lot more, 6 speed manual obviously, stiffer suspension, limited slip differential, Brembo brakes etc. Bluetooth on all TL's, 5.1 DVD audio (a first for production cars I believe) and an improved 3.2 Type S motor that is ULEV compliant! (thats what really impressed me)

ghost

whatz ULEV ??

Raheel

Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle, means LOW SMOG and LOW LOW POLLUTION! Extremely good for a V6, but than again Honda is known for making clean engines, this one is cleaner than the last model, because they tweaked couple things, they describe on Car and Driver review how they did it

ghost

thank you :p good to know that the car i am planning to buy is gonna have a clean engine

purplpaul

when do you all think we'll have pricing info? is there a set date?

Ken1997TL

I'd guess the last week of this month (September now). Honda waits until the last minute for many good reasons. Currency fluctuations, supply/demand forecasts etc.

doopstr

Is it true the Brembo's are only on the front and not the rear?
Bluetooth can't be worth that much. Under $100 to impliment.
5.1DVD audio is nice but where is the media?
manual tranny shouldn't add to price of car.
Either should the suspension.

I guess it's just all perceived value and more profit for Acura.

larrynimmo

That's exactly how I look at it.

driver

If Acura is reading this board then I'd say they probablly think they can get $35K for it easy.

It's crazy, this car fully loaded w/ tax could be $40k. That's totally out of my price range unless I won the lottery. Then again if I won the lottery this car will not be in my buy list

SDLSteve

My dealer said it would be about a 2% increase in the 2003 models. We'll see.

larrynimmo

2% increase over the 2003 TL or the TLS?

SDLSteve

Good question. I have no idea. It would definitely determine whether I get one or not.

Fencesitter

My salesman, who looks like he is about 19, said it would be "somewhere between $30 and $32K". If it's more than $33 I'm going to ask for my check back.

Maxim

Great question. Thank you. A leap from $28k to $35k would be hard to justify. Granted there are some nice improvements, but Acura is only trying to update a product already on the market, plus do the 4-5 year restyling that every manufacturer on that market segment does. One great Acura quality is its value. People buy it because of the Honda reliability/performance at a sensible price. Try selling the new car for $35k and I predict a mass exodus to the Infiniti dealership for the G35 (confusing interior and all) which can be had for $31k with a few necessary options here and there. Plus there is hardly a compelling reason to have the new TL cost almost 8 grand more than the TSX. If that be the case, then Acura needs another car for the $28-30K market.

I think a good price for the car should be $30k w/o nav and $32k with nav.

Fencesitter

I think some of the dealerships may be padding their predictions so they can beat expectations when the pricing finally does hit. I hope we hear in this forum before 10/2 (that's when I was told to expect the number).

huskerfan

Honda announced the price of the 2004 Accord the same day they arrived at the dealers. There have been several articles in car magazines that put the price of the 2004 TL around 33K. One indicated the base model would be slightly higher than the 2003 Type S which was about 31.8K and about 33.9K w/Nav. That makes some sense since the 2004 has everything that the 2003 Type S has + a lot of new features.

golf2liv

I agree. I think it would be hard for acura to justify a price any higher than right around 35k considering you can get a 2003 TL-S with navi for around 34k. If they go much higher they risk losing sales to brands such as the lux ES 330 and the Infiniti...which is def not something they want. The improvements on the inside are awesome, but in the grand scheme of things, shouldn't really cost an outrageous amount (plus they have gotten rid of on-star, which doesn't cost much, but it's still better than nothing) All in all I expect the price with navi to be right at 35k. If it's not, I might be forced to get back my deposit. Also, for those of you who also have deposits down, the salesman for acura are basically getting a slam-dunk out of us. They have to do no convincing of any kind and they know they are getting the sale (I've never even met my dealer...from a different city) Hopefully since we will all be paying right at MSRP we can have some accessories thrown in, like the 18" wheels instead of the factory 17"s. The dealership might be out 500 bucks (if they keep the 17"s) but on any other car we could talk them down 500 or more. What do you guys think?

maddtl

Base $33,500
Base with Navigation $35,500
Base With Navigation and 18 wheels $38,000
Base With Navigation and A-spec $39,500

+$720 for destination

davew

I remember seeing a list of the base models, but I can't remember the details -- will you be able to buy the 6MT without the A-SPEC package (ie a $33.5 6 speed manual with no Navi).

I had an '84 Prelude that I loved, (no auto anything, except moonroof), and the performance/features of the base is much more than I need.

Thanks!

PS -- Sorry, accidentally posted this in another thread -- meant to post it here

VtecMW

I think a good question is thether an AT will cost the same as a 6MT model. After all, the 6MT comes with the Brembo brakes, tighter suspension and LSD.

Maxim

If that be the case, then so long Acura. Hello G35. Or Hello 525i. Or Hello A6. Acura will no longer be the value leader it once was.

davew

I'm sorry, but is the translation of this that the 6MT is only available with A-Spec, or can you get a 6MT version of the base without Brembo's, etc...? Thanks!

Raheel

Damn maddtl, those prices look too much..

I really dont think A-Spec will be a whole $4000, no one will get it if it is that much more.

huh

let's see. the old TL type S stickers for just under 32k. the new TL appears to be a much better car in just about every way with more luxury, more standard features, better performance etc. and new models after a redesign tend to increase in price by 2 to 5% anyway. so i don't think Acura would be unreasonable with offering the new TL for $33,500 or even $34,500 after destination. i bet the invoice for the new TL will be at least $30-31k. so there could still be hope.

i don't understand why so many people are bent on Acura offering the TL under $32,000. it reminds me of when people said that no one would buy the TSX for over $26,000. not when a more powerful Accord could be had for under $24,000. well, today TSXs are still selling close to sticker and my bet is that the new TL does too.

i mean what else is out there? BMW 525i comparably equipped is around $45,000. the 2004 BMW 530i according to Autospies can be optioned to over $58,000. :wow: the BMW 325i (325! ) stickers over $36,000 fully loaded (no navigation available). the cheapest Audi A6 (3.0) starts at $36,640. add $3000 for quattro. an Infiniti G35 with premium package and XM satellite radio stickers for over $34,000 with a true marke value of $33,520. so i guess people are willing to pay this much for an inferior G35 but not the new, supposedly better TL(according to ride and drives)? maybe the Volvo S60 or the Saab 9-5? But they're not cheaper either comparably equipped.

before, critics of the TL would ***** and moan about the styling, cheapness (interior, luxury features, technology), and poor handling/riding and driving dynamics of the old TL. now Acura has gone and addressed and improved all of these things and now people aren't willing to pay for it? what was the definition of insanity again? something about doing the same things and expecting different results?

davew

I agree with huh, and I also think the market over the long term will determine the price. I just hope there is some flexibility, like 6MT without a large attached pack...

Fencesitter

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but even though this car compares most closely to the prior TL-S, the fact that Acura has collapsed the model to one car (A-spec aside for the moment) makes me think they aren't going to completely walk away from the bottom end of where this car was positioned in the past. TL slipped down below ES300 in sales and I think they're gonna want to reclaim that by staying within range of their former price point. The last thing Acura needs to have to find a whole new market instead of selling cars to those of us who've been waiting for this one. So I'll stick my neck out and guess $32k, plus destination.

neuronbob

Enough speculation.

Let's see what happens in two weeks when the price is officially released. Besides, $41k is too much for a fully optioned TL. I think madd's lower range is well-justified, however.

Raheel

I agree with HUH, For the price and features, and the look, and all the new technology, I think the price is well worth it, but I think $41k is too much..

$35-36k is the max I would want to spend..