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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Anyone go in to buy RL and buy TL

I am really torn on which car to buy? The RL is a great car, but is everything worth 11K more.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Get an RL, it is one sweet vehicle.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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test drove the RL and it's nice. if i could afford it, i'd buy it.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mg7726
test drove the RL and it's nice. if i could afford it, i'd buy it.
RL is a very nice car, if I had enogh money I'd buy RL.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Was it worth the extra money? What are you really getting, and SHS-AW in California is kind of a waist.

If I put 5K down, plus my trade, it would be $150 more a month then the TL. The TL I would need to put down the 5K.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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For $50k, I would spend it on GS430 or something E class benz. The RL is a very nice car, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't have VTEC engine nor 6MT. So go with the TL.
Old May 11, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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The RL is only 44.5K car these days.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by traidsganster
For $50k, I would spend it on GS430 or something E class benz. The RL is a very nice car, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't have VTEC engine nor 6MT. So go with the TL.

um... the RL has a Vtec engine
Old May 11, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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It's amazing how people are quick to state facts that are anything but. The new RL has VTEC, and is SH-AWD not SHS-AW or whatever the guy up there said.
Old May 11, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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My biggest complaint on my TL, after driving 10k miles, is the front wheel drive and torque steer. I assume the RL does not exhibit this characteristic which would make it very tempting if fits your budget. What did you think of the RL handling?

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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Sorry, I work for SHS!

The handling was great, but after owning 4 other Acura's the torgue steer doesn't bug me.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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It was nice, but as someone said for 50k I'd go somewhere else. (And who buys an RL that's 44k? no options)

The TL was a better buy, faster, a little sportier (imo), and less money.
Old May 11, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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I own an '05 TL 6-spd. I had the RL for a three day loaner. The RL has nice features but I can tell you, it was a bore to drive. I can't wait to pick up my TL.
The RL needs at least 50 more horsepower and a 6-Spd. It felt so slooooww.
Old May 11, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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It felt slow?? Really?? Wow, I would have thought it would feel close to the TL being that it's 300 HP but heavier....
I really like the RL, but I think it should be a $42k-$45k car.
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Originally Posted by toynaround
My biggest complaint on my TL, after driving 10k miles, is the front wheel drive and torque steer. I assume the RL does not exhibit this characteristic which would make it very tempting if fits your budget. What did you think of the RL handling?

Peter
Why would the RL not exhibit torque steer? It may be less, but power applied through the front wheels should still cause some torque steer.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Why would the RL not exhibit torque steer? It may be less, but power applied through the front wheels should still cause some torque steer.

Mike

the RL is AWD
Old May 11, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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unbelievable the misinformation in this thread. maybe you all shouldn't buy the next sh-awd tl, b/c that car's going to be shit slow too....lol
Old May 11, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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At least the RL is a pretty rare car. You may want to consider a M35 though, those are pretty nice.
Old May 11, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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The RL is being discounted big time in Southern California, I have two email for one at $43,500 after destination charge.

The M35 would be more in the 50K range, and I am trying to stay out of there.

I am still not sure which car I am going to get.

Michael
Old May 11, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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I heard the TL handles much more like a sportscar, and has better accel times but I am too lazy to double check. BTW, of course it has a fricken VTec, I assumed that before I even checked the specs. For 43 I would say taht seems like a pretty good deal, but it wouldn't be my first choice for that price. The new benz diesel is pretty nice, 37 mpg, 750ish MPT, plus the thing will last at least 300k miles with minimal or no engine troubles. There older ones could make it over the 1 mil mark. Sure, by then its crap, but it must be cool to see the ODO reset(then resell it, technically its not tampering). If I could afford an RL I would go by way of lexus, or BMW(preferbly, but better deal with lexus).
Old May 11, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel
(And who buys an RL that's 44k? no options)

The RL has everything standard. The car is being discounted from $50k to $44k. However, this isn't true everywhere.

And the RL does have a vtec engine, SH-AWD is useful in all conditions, and the RL is a steal for $44k.

Go for the RL if you can afford. TL is great, but the RL is one league ahead.
Old May 12, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cTLgo
the RL is AWD
Yes it is, therefore power does get routed through the front wheels. So why wouldn't it exhibit at least some torque steer?

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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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i went into the dealership wanting the RL, but it just wasnt as fun as the TL. I'm 25 not 45, so it just seemed like the smarter thing to do. Money wasnt an issue, but the torque on the RL seemed lower and just seemed more like a "cruiser" car.
Old May 12, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Yes it is, therefore power does get routed through the front wheels. So why wouldn't it exhibit at least some torque steer?

Mike
As soon as it is needed, much more of the power gets shifted to the rear wheels. Torque steer is only an issue with high powered front wheel drive cars.

The RL's SH-AWD also transfers grip laterally from side to side which makes it's cornering ability excellent.
Old May 12, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Get the RL. The SH rocks...

...at least on our Prelude. It really enhances the handling on our car in turns. I haven't driven the RL, but if it helps a much as it does on our car, it is well worth it. Especially when coupled with the AWD.

Is there an A-Spec package on the way for the RL?
Old May 12, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tdawgy808
i went into the dealership wanting the RL, but it just wasnt as fun as the TL. I'm 25 not 45, so it just seemed like the smarter thing to do. Money wasnt an issue, but the torque on the RL seemed lower and just seemed more like a "cruiser" car.
If you are older with a family get the RL if you can afford it. It will (hopefully) give you alot less trouble ... looks awesome and handles like a beast. But if you are a younger guy still cruising for chicks and having fun the TL is a better choice.
Old May 12, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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What older?
Old May 12, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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...at least on our Prelude. It really enhances the handling on our car in turns. I haven't driven the RL, but if it helps a much as it does on our car, it is well worth it. Especially when coupled with the AWD.

Is there an A-Spec package on the way for the RL?
Yeah, the Prelude was technically the first to have this kind of tech. God bless the lude.

Anyways, SH-AWD is supposed to take it a step forward. Even though the car weighs 4000lbs and is front biased in weight distribution, it is an amazing handler.

And yes, the A-Spec kit will soon be available. Here's the concept of it in New York.

Old May 12, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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get the M since it was rated better than the RL. If you got 50k to blow on a car, then you check out RL, M, BMW, audi, MB, etc.

The M was better rated
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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The RL's cup holders alone make it worth the extra $$$
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey3c
get the M since it was rated better than the RL. If you got 50k to blow on a car, then you check out RL, M, BMW, audi, MB, etc.

The M was better rated
If you are going by ratings, why are you mentioning the BMW, audi, and MB?

The M did finish at the top in most comparos (mostly because of its performance), but the RL was second - well ahead of all the German competition.
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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comparison silly... and what you like. regardless of whether or not some auto writer likes a particular model does not mean squat when you are shelling out cash for what you want.

Do you brag that your 50K car was better because someone else thought it was.. Of course not it is because you like it. And I did drive both the RL and the M. I would agree...
Old May 12, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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I went to buy an RL. My wife and I both test drove it and we thought that it was a very nice car. That's just it, it's just a nice car. I was looking at my wifes face and there was no excitment in it. We then drove a TL and we loved it! Yes, we could afford either car, but we want a car that looks sporty and is fun to drive. We bought the TL, (traded in my '02 TL-S. We were then contacted by Acura, by phone and letter) to take a survey. I responded by telling them that I wanted to buy an RL, but the car was just "too bland". I might have waited for the M35X but it was not available until March. I bought the TL in November... and I'm glad that I did. I love it! It's a great car! Good luck with whichever car you go with.
Old May 12, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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I wouldnt but the M35X first production year, there are a ton of systems I would want to see street proven.
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if you have the $ get the RL... different class- pure luxury
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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I have a TL waiting for me at the dealer, but can't decide if I made the right call. I am going to drive both again.

Michael
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Michael, go to testdrive again, they should let you do that as many times as you want since you're going to buy one of them... Try the different roads and conditions, weather, and find the best ride for your need and mind. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
I wouldnt but the M35X first production year, there are a ton of systems I would want to see street proven.
I worry about rattles and production issues on first year cars, what systems are you referring to?
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
I wouldnt but the M35X first production year, there are a ton of systems I would want to see street proven.
Most of the systems are street proven...its called the G35x. Same ATTESA AWD system and the exact same engine and tranny. Nothing in the M35x is new...except maybe the chassis and it is still the same FM platform with new reinforcements.

The RL sales are bad right now. Its pretty much taking a beating to the new M and the new GS. For $45k, there are many many new options out there. Anyone thought of the SRT8
Old May 13, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Everyone talks about the M and GS, but to get them loaded like the RL, it would be over 50K. The RL at 43.5K is in a league of its own.

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