Any 3G'ers upgrade to a TLX ? If so...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:17 AM
  #1  
SilverJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,356
Likes: 269
From: PA
Any 3G'ers upgrade to a TLX ? If so...

I got a 6 cylinder TLX as a loaner car the other day. A great looking car for sure on the outside, decent performance, but seems like more of a replacement for the TSX not the TL. The interior isn't nearly as substantial as even my 3G TLS or the 4G TL for that matter. Seats are not as good, materials seem to be a step back. Overall the car seems like a nicer looking accord. And OMG the transmission. It surges when you stop at a light, jumps gears too quickly. Overall the trans is a stuttery mess.
I cant believe anyone coming from a 3G to this car actually likes it, or is just justifying their very large purchase cost (40k plus).
Honestly if this is what Acura is putting out these days, I will never get rid of my Type S. I love my 2011 MDX and love my TLS. Any thoughts I had of upgrading to this car were quickly eliminated the moment I sat in it.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:20 AM
  #2  
polobunny's Avatar
Registered Bunny
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 8,307
Likes: 1,073
From: Montreal
Any idea of downgrading to this car was already not considered by most 3G owners. 4G owners fell in tears as the TLX was not really good enough to save them from the disgrace of buying the ugliest TL to date.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:36 AM
  #3  
Brake_L8's Avatar
Resident BMW Apologist
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 290
Likes: 92
From: Northern Virginia
Originally Posted by polobunny
Any idea of downgrading to this car was already not considered by most 3G owners. 4G owners fell in tears as the TLX was not really good enough to save them from the disgrace of buying the ugliest TL to date.
This is the best summary of what the TLX is, and how I feel about it without even driving one It's prettier than the 4G TL, but the 3G's have the driving dynamics down for sure.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:49 AM
  #4  
SilverJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,356
Likes: 269
From: PA
I actually think the 4G TL is pretty good looking with mods. Something like this.
http://acuraconnected.com/wp-content...2_08_12_01.jpg
Stock ? not so much.
I was just blown away at how much of a downgrade the TLX really is. And having to go through multiple steps on a touch screen to friggin turn on the radio or the seat heaters is just asinine.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:51 AM
  #5  
Nexx's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 498
lol 3G = gods gift to earth. its such an overrated car. come on guys.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:00 AM
  #6  
ggesq's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 12,453
Likes: 2,186
From: Tampa, Florida
Originally Posted by SilverJ
Overall the car seems like a nicer looking accord.
Welcome to 1999. The TL has always been a nicer looking Accord.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:01 AM
  #7  
polobunny's Avatar
Registered Bunny
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 8,307
Likes: 1,073
From: Montreal
Originally Posted by Nexx
lol 3G = gods gift to earth. its such an overrated car. come on guys.
We're specifically comparing TLs, nothing more. Everybody knows it's about the Beretta.


Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:27 AM
  #8  
EvilVirus's Avatar
Safety Car
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,227
Likes: 1,120
From: Houston
Originally Posted by Nexx
lol 3G = gods gift to earth. its such an overrated car. come on guys.
Obviously, it must be since you are here on the 3G forums

No one said its god gift to earth, but comparing all TLs, then YES, the 3G is the one everyone will pick out of the 5 generations.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:30 AM
  #9  
Nexx's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 498
Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Obviously, it must be since you are here on the 3G forums

No one said its god gift to earth, but comparing all TLs, then YES, the 3G is the one everyone will pick out of the 5 generations.
looks aside, i think a well done 4G is fucking amazing, the 4G is the best TL to date. 3G is decent for its time but if you think its a superior car to the 4G or 5G you are freakin delusional.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:35 AM
  #10  
SilverJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,356
Likes: 269
From: PA
I'm not saying the 3G is gods gift, but it is the best TL over the years in terms of looks, interior and driving dynamics, especially the TYPE-S. I think the 4G looks great with MODS. But you need a lot of them. I have never driven a 6 speed AWD 4G. Very hard to find. But the TL-S(and base TL) six speed just feels...right.
If you could give me the TLX looks(only because the 3G looks a tad dated), maybe the 4G interior and the 3G driving dynamics, you would have the perfect TL.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 09:48 AM
  #11  
Nexx's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 498
Originally Posted by SilverJ
I'm not saying the 3G is gods gift, but it is the best TL over the years in terms of looks, interior and driving dynamics, especially the TYPE-S. I think the 4G looks great with MODS. But you need a lot of them. I have never driven a 6 speed AWD 4G. Very hard to find. But the TL-S(and base TL) six speed just feels...right.
If you could give me the TLX looks(only because the 3G looks a tad dated), maybe the 4G interior and the 3G driving dynamics, you would have the perfect TL.
i completely disagree with you. I think the 4G interior is nicer and the driving dynamics are better. exterior styling from the factory the 3G is superior. so thats 2 out of 3 in my book. i own a 3g type-s and thats why i lurk this forum.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:05 AM
  #12  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Originally Posted by ggesq
Welcome to 1999. The TL has always been a nicer looking Accord.
Accord > TL

Originally Posted by Nexx
..4G is fucking amazing..
suck my dick 4G... yess... yess!!!

Any 3G'ers upgrade to a TLX ? If so...-v4twwjm.gif
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:13 AM
  #13  
TacoBello's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 30,487
Likes: 4,417
From: In an igloo
Nexx is just sad because he doesn't have a 3G. It's okay buddy. You'll get there one day.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:17 AM
  #14  
Nexx's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 498
Originally Posted by TacoBello
Nexx is just sad because he doesn't have a 3G. It's okay buddy. You'll get there one day.
i guess you missed my last post. i own a 07 CBP Type-s.

i see the car for what it is. just because i own it i dont allow emotion cloud my judgement. im pretty subjective when it comes to cars.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:25 AM
  #15  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by Nexx
i guess you missed my last post. i own a 07 CBP Type-s.

i see the car for what it is. just because i own it i dont allow emotion cloud my judgement. im pretty subjective when it comes to cars.
I guess we'll agree to disagree. The 4G suspension is softer than the 3G, especially the Type S. The auto tranny felt slushy to me compared to my 3G. I think Acura tired to make the 4G a luxury sedan rather than a sports sedan that the 3G is/was, especially the Type S. I didn't let the fact that I owned one cloud my opinion either, that's why I sold the 3G and bought a BMW.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:25 AM
  #16  
TacoBello's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 30,487
Likes: 4,417
From: In an igloo
I thought we were talking about 3G phone service

Nothing beats 3G
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:34 AM
  #17  
truonghthe's Avatar
Suzuka Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,967
Likes: 1,702
Acura just trying survive in the automotive world by betting their money on the TLX and MDX. After the year 2008 Honda has nothing but to disappoint me.

1. lets start off with that dam 5 spd AT slush box why keep it for so long and then bam makes 6spd AT for 3 years and moved to 9spd AT? why not give the upgrade to 07-08 TL with the 6spd AT?

2. Why in the hell Acura think ventilated seat is advance tech (avialable only on Advance Package) in their so call "mid size" luxury sedan? Lexus has them for years since the 06 IS.

3. in the year 2007 and up push start button already a standard feature for Infinity G35 and lexus IS yet Acura stick with the dam switch blade key.

4. Last but not least it tooks acura 8 years later to figure out consumer demand all four window switches has auto feature.

5. Still roll with FWD, why honda why? the only two RWD Honda ever made are nothing but legendary sport car and no longer in production.

4th gen TL is a big mistake Honda ever made, its ugly and price is keep falling and falling, meanwhile the resale value of TL-S is high compare to the 4th gen TL. TLX isn't a game changer it't simply is acura playing catch up to Huyndai Sonata and Kia Optima.

Beside the new 2016 NSX (which I never could afford) Honda product has nothing to impress me and it seem they do a good work to boot me over Lexus dealer.

Last edited by truonghthe; Jan 14, 2015 at 10:36 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:35 AM
  #18  
Nexx's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,095
Likes: 498
Originally Posted by TacoBello
I thought we were talking about 3G phone service

Nothing beats 3G
your wrong on both both counts then, 4g > 3G lol
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:40 AM
  #19  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
Truong...only thing I would add is they are making FWD because they're making them on the Accord platform essentially using the same motors and trannies I'm guessing, cuts production costs big time. I also think the RDX is great small SUV.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:43 AM
  #20  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
If you like boats
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:43 AM
  #21  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
and hos
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:47 AM
  #22  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by Majofo
If you like boats
I like boats that are boats, not cars...

Originally Posted by Majofo
and hos
Hos can be good too...
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 11:33 AM
  #23  
SilverJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,356
Likes: 269
From: PA
Originally Posted by Nexx
i completely disagree with you. I think the 4G interior is nicer and the driving dynamics are better. exterior styling from the factory the 3G is superior. so thats 2 out of 3 in my book. i own a 3g type-s and thats why i lurk this forum.
Your not totally disagreeing with me. I said the 4G interior as well. I cant comment on the driving dynamics, I have only driven the 4G SHAWD automatic(not the manual.) Givent the choice between my type S manual or the 4G AWD AUTO, I would take the 3G.
I do believe its possible (and probable) that the 4G manual may be superior. Once I find one of those unicorns I will let you know.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 11:47 AM
  #24  
SilverJ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,356
Likes: 269
From: PA
Originally Posted by Nexx
i guess you missed my last post. i own a 07 CBP Type-s.

i see the car for what it is. just because i own it i dont allow emotion cloud my judgement. im pretty subjective when it comes to cars.
Nexx Im onboard with the 4G being a better car overall than the 3G in all but the looks department but that's a pretty big deal. The 4G only looks good with 2-3 thousand dollars in appearance MODS, the Type S was pretty perfect the moment it rolled out of the showroom. I mean shoot, here's a type S with nothing but tint. Stock.


and heres a 4g stock.

and heres a comparable 4G 2012(after MMC) advanced. Not too bad, but needs some work to look better IMO.


Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 11:56 AM
  #25  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
And you're not even showing the beak end...
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 11:56 AM
  #26  
truonghthe's Avatar
Suzuka Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,967
Likes: 1,702
Originally Posted by GKinColo08TL
Truong...only thing I would add is they are making FWD because they're making them on the Accord platform essentially using the same motors and trannies I'm guessing, cuts production costs big time. I also think the RDX is great small SUV.
if they want to step into the game of Luxury brand then that FWD has to go, Lexus didn't become a luxury brand because their elegant ES350, Mercedes didn't know for being luxury because their CLA-250. RDX is good small SUV but no body in the luxury side want a small SUV, ZDX is no where near BMW X6 in comparsion or Audi Q series. MDX is well some what better than the RX350 has to offer since now they do offer in both FWD or AWD. The problem Acura has now is there is too many model tremple over other car in the line up, EG TLX with advance package seem good but it will tell you why spend $20k more for a RLX. ILX fully loaded buyer will scratching their head asking why they need the TLX 4 banger.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:12 PM
  #27  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
my eyes!
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:18 PM
  #28  
TacoBello's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 30,487
Likes: 4,417
From: In an igloo
Mods, can you please change the title of this thread to:

"Any 3G'ers downgrade to a TLX ? If so..."

Kthxbye.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:21 PM
  #29  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:21 PM
  #30  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
I spy Mr Hyde.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:33 PM
  #31  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by truonghthe
if they want to step into the game of Luxury brand then that FWD has to go, Lexus didn't become a luxury brand because their elegant ES350, Mercedes didn't know for being luxury because their CLA-250. RDX is good small SUV but no body in the luxury side want a small SUV, ZDX is no where near BMW X6 in comparsion or Audi Q series. MDX is well some what better than the RX350 has to offer since now they do offer in both FWD or AWD. The problem Acura has now is there is too many model tremple over other car in the line up, EG TLX with advance package seem good but it will tell you why spend $20k more for a RLX. ILX fully loaded buyer will scratching their head asking why they need the TLX 4 banger.
I think you're comparing apples to oranges here

AWD RDX w/Tech is about 41.5K RX350 AWD with similar is about 47K

TLX is about 46k, E350 is 67K

Lexus NX compares pricewise to the RDX but significantly less power than the RDX.

C class compares more to the TLX

It appears Honda wants their Acura brand to fit somewhere between the Hondas and the true luxury brands.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 03:51 PM
  #32  
04WDPSeDaN's Avatar
iWhine S/C 6MT TL
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,814
Likes: 2,567
From: NJ
The only real benefit of owning a TLX, is the ability to use regular gas since it's only Recommended to use premium but not required. Look at the cost savings. Over a few years you would have saved enough money to buy another TLX!
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 03:55 PM
  #33  
Flipster23's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 35,746
Likes: 2,334
4G TL ha

3G TL 6spd only way to go.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:00 PM
  #34  
Majofo's Avatar
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 88,888
Likes: 11,846
From: Waffles, BU
Two TLXs..
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:01 PM
  #35  
GKinColo08TL's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 604
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by Majofo
Two TLXs..
does not = 3G Type S.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:26 PM
  #36  
Flyer92's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 172
Likes: 6
Not excited about replacing my TL 6MT with the TLX. The thrill just isn't there. In fact...I'm so reluctant to give up the manual that I'm considering to picking up the GS 350 F Sport and still keep the TL. It's just something about the way she looks after her weekly detailing...

3G is a timeless design. Can't say the same for the 4G.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:49 PM
  #37  
Flyer92's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 172
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by Majofo
Accord > TL



suck my dick 4G... yess... yess!!!

Majofo...DWL
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:49 PM
  #38  
guitarplayer16's Avatar
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,766
Likes: 2,317
From: ON, Canada
inb4 someone posts pics of TLX on vossens
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 06:08 PM
  #39  
Slpr04UA6's Avatar
-------Tim-------
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,552
Likes: 613
From: Tampa, Fl
Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
inb4 someone posts pics of TLX on vossens, slammed!

This!


Not sold on it, one bit!
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 10:13 PM
  #40  
hddnav's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 365
Likes: 146
Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Obviously, it must be since you are here on the 3G forums

No one said its god gift to earth, but comparing all TLs, then YES, the 3G is the one everyone will pick out of the 5 generations.
There is exactly one memorable thing about the 3G today: the styling. Other than that, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a single improvement over the newer models. What about the highly stylish cracked dashboards and failed transmissions?

By the way, the post MMC 4G SH-AWD looks damn good (but not as good as the post MMC 3G). With the smaller rims, not so much. Wait, I forgot that styling is purely subjective!!!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:08 PM.