I had Orion V2 since last week, believe me , it's beautiful.It runs like charm until yesterday. When I looked through the reflection of the car in front of me, one circle only lighted up half way then in the next intersection I see a full circle again through the reflection of another car . I thought it's paint problem of the car. But today I see that happen again and turn back to full. Is it normal ?

 

In my experience the ballast/inverter that comes with them are complete junk. Mine did the same. Replaced them with HQ completely sealed inverters and they have been good for 15 months now.

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW lmaooo this shit is happening to everyone. If I had I hadnt gotten rid of them I would seriously make a list of people and send it to light wurks and orion. I suggest you gather up info on other people who are getting this problem and contact light wurks.

This happened to my halos...i thought it was the halos so I got them to send me replacement halos. If you walk outside the car and slap the headlights the halo will turn back on but as you are driving you will see half the halo go out again in the reflection of other cars. This is happening to my friend dj manu right now too. And thechamp also got recent halos so I am waiting for him to tell me when he starts getting these problems.

 

omg for real. It does not happen all the time, and only one ring in the passenger side. I'm really tired of taking off the headlight now.

 

mine started like that it will get worse and worse

 

As I keep my eyes on it, it happens more frequent.

 

Hmmm, same thing occurred to me. Subscribed for solution.

 

I guess UniqueStyleRacing make better angel eyes compared to Orion then

 

I knew both websites but I heard from Umnitza more. I will contact them on Monday to find resolution. Can't believe that many of us have the same problem.

 

I won't have a problem because I hooked them up my own way.

2 months and it has been working flawlessly and they're on 24/7 when I'm in my car, morning and night.

I expect at least 7500 hours of usage before they run into problems.

 

I use their replay but I believe maybe because of the wire inside the ring .The problem looks like wire loose or something like that.

 

why not help a houston brotha out and help Leo with his wiring?

 

It's not like he does not like to help, Justin. I was so stubborn that I think I can do it by myself. And I think it's not wiring problem , only one individual ring have problem.
Edit: I got their relay, only hook one to the ground and one trigger to the wiper motor. The rest I just wrap them up with electric tap

 

Umnitza has scammed ton's of BMW owners and misrepresents a ton of it's products. They claim that their BMW Angel Eyes are 5 times greater than their competitor and produce no errors, but you get them and they are dim and are giving bulb out errors and refuse to accept a return.

Tons of folks have gotten scammed by them, check it out on bimmerfest and bimmerforums and the like

 

I still think the champ should at least give you some pointers.

 

LMAO i HOPE yours does not go out
BUTTTT i have serious doubts...i used mine for 9 months before half of a halo would randomly go out while driving....and by 11 months it was doing it continuously

 

Lol I forgot about the red text, but I think revvi LED are better (USR). I wired them with my headlights instead of using the harness.

Crosses fingers. But so far so good!

 

Do the orions not use an inverter?

 

After looking, and sorry I'm on my phone, I think the Orion uses just a harness. Right? So what I said above goes here too, replace the crap relay on the harness with a better unit and see what happens. I don't think you should be blaming the halo/LEDs.

 

Does everyone use the wire harness from umnitza ? If yes, do you guys wire everything just like they direct ?

 

Yeah the ballasts are junk! My driver's side crapped out recently. Now my passenger side is having trouble staying on and flickers a lot. I think the rings are fine, but the ballasts are pushing either too much, too little, or an uneven amount of electricity to the rings.

 

I don't have much knowledge about electric so I don't really know the one come with the Orion V2 is a ballast or not. I thought they said the Orion V2 does not need ballast. Anyway, ballast problem seem better than rings problem .
http://www.fastm.com/m3/angeleyes/angeleyesv204.jpg

 

So what's the final conclusion? Change the ballast?

 

I swear it's like people don't read what I write.

There is no "ballast" for the Orions like there is for the other kits. The Orion just comes with a harness. But there is a relay on the harness and I'd lay odds that is the culprit.

So replace the relay and see what happens.

 

My conclusion after working with these kits for 6+ years?

Umnitza CCFLs

Fit 10/10
CCFL dependability = 4/10 (hit or miss, some times they last for ever and some times they crap out after a day)
CCFL Ballast dependability = 3/10

AAC style CCFL kit

Fit = 1/10 (poor product design, a hodge podge kit that seem to be put together by someone who doesnt know what fits the 3G TL and what doesnt).
CCFL dependability = 8/10 (from what I have heard, they carry a good product that is dependable compared to Umnitza)
CCFL ballast dependability = 10/10 ( one of the best CCFL ballasts available on the market).

Umnitza Orion V2 (LED)

Fit = 6/10, halos are generic sized and were not made for the TL in particular, being a complete "O" sitting in the middle of the bezel it leaves about 3 mm all around the halo between itself and the bezel)
Halo dependability = 8/10 if wired using a harness and independent switch to control it.
4/10 if wired by tapping into an exisiting power supply such as parking lights.
Halo contol module = see above.

USR LED halos

Fit = 6/10, halos are generic sized and were not made for the TL in particular, being a complete "O" sitting in the middle of the bezel it leaves about 3 mm all around the halo between itself and the bezel)
Halo dependability = 8/10 if wired using a harness and independent switch to control it.
4/10 if wired by tapping into an exisiting power supply such as parking lights.
Halo contol module = USR module is a bit better as each module is encased in a potted small container, I'd give it 9/10 if wired using a harness and independent switch to control it and 5/10 if wired by tapping into an existin power supply.


Hope this helps .

 

my angel eyes are doing the same thing. half of the circle lights up. if i hit the corner of the headlight (like the fonz) it will light up again...and then shortly after...it will burn out again.

my LED audi strip also has 2 burned out bulbs.

i hardly use either one (angels or LED strip) and they've been installed for less than a year. i'm less than thrilled...

i have the umnitza orion V2's...i don't recall a relay harness though...they are just wired to an independent switch with 18guage wire. each angel eye has a + and - wire...those wires are wired all the way back to the dedicated switch. what's this relay harness?

thoughts?

 

Is this the Orion v2 harness?



Big thing at the top is a relay, is it not?

 

Yes.

Good write up JNC.

I have gotten hundreds of compliments for my angel eyes so don't get me worried.

 

yes it's the harness. Sr about that, I did read all the comments.I think the big thing is a fuse. Right now, I wire it exactly like BMW except the trigger go to wiper motor. I will change the relay if this time it won't work.

 

i don't even remember that harness at all...

i'll have to double check everything and see if i can find it.

what 'relay' should i replace it with? any other thoughts?

thanks guys this is real helpful.

 

FastMs M3 Installation
http://www.fastm.com/m3/angeleyes_orionv2.html

It's definitely a relay. And a bad relay would imo give the symptoms you are all experiencing.

After skimming that it does bring up a good point. Solder any and everywhere you "should". Make sure all connections are clean, soldered, and wrapped.

^Those steps along with getting a better inverters has made all the difference with my angels.

 

Sorry my phone can't see the pic . What relay do you recommend ?

 

this is EXACTLY why i went with no halos this time...i used the harness last time but my friend hooked it up to the parking lights even with the harness. I had no idea how to make a separate switch.

I had NO idea this many people had problems with the halos the list just keeps getting bigger lol

 

god damnit....time to check my box from JnC again to look for this mysterious harness. I was about to just hook up the LEDs to the windsheild wipers....guess ill buy a rocker switch while I am at it too and run it through the firewall.....so much for taking the easy way out....

 

^^ did everyone use the harness from umnitza when installing these (for those who have the V2s)? I wonder if I try to pick up a better quality harness from an audio shop or something similar if it will have a lessor chance of failing....

 

^ I do and wire it just like the way they direct.

 

i have USR quad led halos and the relay they gave me looks like the exact same one as the pics u guys are looking at. just to throw it in I also have one half circle halo currently.

 

^dont tell me that!

 

^ keep your eyes on your lights

 

We were linked to this thread from another vendor - LightWurkz.

On a side note, we are aware (have been aware now for 3 months) that a competitor is copying our product. There are several key issues we've seen regarding that product that is advertised.
1) it has no warranty compared to ours
2) it uses inferior finish on the rings, with poorer quality LED
3) it uses fewer LED in the ring
4) they did do something perfect, they copied our controller boxes so perfectly, we filed patent infringement papers with a C&D effective July 10th.
5) on web pictures, they look very similar (down to the colors selected for the LED types), please do not be fooled.

Orion V2 is only authorized from two vendors.
And is the only kit that is tested and guaranteed to be replaced even if you ever get into an accident and the rings don't work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j3vAz-4Gcs

This is perhaps one of the most immature responses from a moderator I've ever read. We've never scammed a single person out of anything, replacing hundreds of failed INVERTERS for the CCFL rings in the past free of charge, working with customers 6 years later.

We've been around 10+ years. Clearly we're not scamming anyone otherwise, we'd have been out of business a long time ago.

As a "super moderator" you represent this forum and the ownership of this forum. The last thing you want to do is say something that could get you in legal trouble. I've saved this thread and would recommend you edit your response or at least think a little more before you type anything.

No, they use NO INVERTER.
They use a power controller box that is the logic behind the rings.

Again, there are NO INVERTERS on Orion.

Because they illegally copied our product (see above disclaimer)

It is likely not a problem. The only issue we see is that perhaps the ring is bad.

We have sold hundreds of Orion V2 for the Acura TL, and can count probably 10 total failed rings, far more than we've ever had on the Orion V2 for the other makes/models.

We apologize to any of you that have had a problem and urge you to contact your retailer so we can determine if you are eligible for warranty.

Having said that, please be very careful with the rings. The rings have a wiring system that is a little more touchy than the standard rings due to their size.

These rings are FAR smaller and the wiring has to be more delicate. 9 out of 10 failed rings we've received here have all had their wire pulled too hard and the solder came apart.