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Old 04-13-2004, 06:57 AM
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when is the aem intake coming out for the 04 tl, iam dying here i want some engine mods no, I cant wait any longer....
Old 04-13-2004, 07:15 AM
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no one knowa anything.....?
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I will have my 06 TL by the time AEM comes out with their intake. Do a search people have been waiting...and waiting...and waiting...

I have the injen and I love it.
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for about $75-100 more and 2hp more (AEM prototype), faaget about it.. get the Injen..
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Allright, I talked about this about a week ago. I was at the industry day of SEMA out here in L.A. and was told be the AEM guys that they expected a release in 8-10 weeks. That was about 1&1/2 weeks ago, do the math. As is noted above, the cost is going to be significantly more than the Injen for inly a slight increase in power, but jimthegreek did say that the power difference could be felt. I have Injen and stand behind it 100%
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
Allright, I talked about this about a week ago. I was at the industry day of SEMA out here in L.A. and was told be the AEM guys that they expected a release in 8-10 weeks. That was about 1&1/2 weeks ago, do the math. As is noted above, the cost is going to be significantly more than the Injen for inly a slight increase in power, but jimthegreek did say that the power difference could be felt. I have Injen and stand behind it 100%

You can pick up a injen for around 200 and the aem will be around 250-275. The noticeable difference in the quality of the part, and the distinct VTEC sound you get out of a AEM than a injen.

HP wise was about 2.1 HP more, but the torque curve on the aem was alot more stable and pretty much the same if not slghtly more throughout the band, unlike the Injen that loses torque at the bottom end.
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you can pick up the Injen for about 170 shipped.
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Originally Posted by EFlecha
you can pick up the Injen for about 170 shipped.
without the bypass. i was quoting with.
Old 04-13-2004, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
You can pick up a injen for around 200 and the aem will be around 250-275. The noticeable difference in the quality of the part, and the distinct VTEC sound you get out of a AEM than a injen.

HP wise was about 2.1 HP more, but the torque curve on the aem was alot more stable and pretty much the same if not slghtly more throughout the band, unlike the Injen that loses torque at the bottom end.
So are you recommending the AEM over Injen? A lot of people have been complaining about the build quality of the AEM.
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Originally Posted by EFlecha
you can pick up the Injen for about 170 shipped.

$170 shipped?? You sure? My friend's shop has a cost of like 180 I think
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yes I'm sure
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thanks for the info i guess iam getting tried of waiting...
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Originally Posted by EFlecha
you can pick up the Injen for about 170 shipped.
Where?
Old 04-13-2004, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
$170 shipped?? You sure? My friend's shop has a cost of like 180 I think

depends on how much quantity they buy. Last purchase order i saw was 151.35 for cost.
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nevermind "they" raised the price within the last week
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Novice question here but what exatly is an INJEN? Is that an exhaust? Given that the AEM is only good for about 2 HP, what can the INJEN do? Also (last dumb question) will either give me a better "rumble" sound to the engine???
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Originally Posted by fishacura
Novice question here but what exatly is an INJEN? Is that an exhaust? Given that the AEM is only good for about 2 HP, what can the INJEN do? Also (last dumb question) will either give me a better "rumble" sound to the engine???
Both are cold-air intakes.
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Originally Posted by fishacura
Novice question here but what exatly is an INJEN? Is that an exhaust? Given that the AEM is only good for about 2 HP, what can the INJEN do? Also (last dumb question) will either give me a better "rumble" sound to the engine???

AEM gives out 2hp over the injen. The injen was dyno'd on my car at 11.8 i believe it was, and the aem came in at 13.9hp to the wheels add-on.
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
AEM gives out 2hp over the injen. The injen was dyno'd on my car at 11.8 i believe it was, and the aem came in at 13.9hp to the wheels add-on.
Is the AEM's power advantage due to the design of the piping or the filter, or both?
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Originally Posted by TLover
Is the AEM's power advantage due to the design of the piping or the filter, or both?

I honestly feel that the AEM intake is a better made part. I dont know where the power came from, but the torque curve on the AEm is much better than the Injen. Notice on the injen, that your torque is actually less than stock until you get up over around 2750......
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is the aem out yet i want it bad...
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Originally Posted by WlcTL
is the aem out yet i want it bad...

According to AEM, its going to be 6-8 weeks
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Originally Posted by VTEC=happiness
According to AEM, its going to be 6-8 weeks
May 17 is the current release date.
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AEM = garbage and their customer service is garbage as well.
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Originally Posted by AcuraTLS03
AEM = garbage and their customer service is garbage as well.
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
I honestly feel that the AEM intake is a better made part. I dont know where the power came from, but the torque curve on the AEm is much better than the Injen. Notice on the injen, that your torque is actually less than stock until you get up over around 2750......
I think you sold me on the AEM. The torque is key. Plus, I was perusing Injen's site yesterday and the dyno they have can't be accurate, or at least I hope it isn't. Not a big deal but it makes me suspicious.
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Originally Posted by TLover
I think you sold me on the AEM. The torque is key. Plus, I was perusing Injen's site yesterday and the dyno they have can't be accurate, or at least I hope it isn't. Not a big deal but it makes me suspicious.

that dyno is accurate... thats my dyno sheet. I have the original!!!!!!!!

the aem dyno sheet is much better
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
that dyno is accurate... thats my dyno sheet. I have the original!!!!!!!!

the aem dyno sheet is much better
Really!? That dyno sheet said the TL has 202 RWHP stock and 213 HP w/Injen. But someone on TOV dynoed a stock TL with 222 RWHP.
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Originally Posted by TLover
Really!? That dyno sheet said the TL has 202 RWHP stock and 213 HP w/Injen. But someone on TOV dynoed a stock TL with 222 RWHP.

TOV's was a 6speed. the AT gets around 200-205
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
TOV's was a 6speed. the AT gets around 200-205

AEm dyno'd a 6speed with their intake at 237
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
TOV's was a 6speed. the AT gets around 200-205
WOW!!! That much difference between 5AT and 6MT? I'm glad I have the manny trans.
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always.. any car is always gonna produce about 20 more on a MT tranny. The is300 is the same thing.
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Originally Posted by jimthegreek
always.. any car is always gonna produce about 20 more on a MT tranny. The is300 is the same thing.
True, but I didn't think the difference was that drastic. I always thought about 5% lower. Why are there so many people knocking AEM's quality and service? I've never purchased an AEM product before.
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Originally Posted by TLover
Why are there so many people knocking AEM's quality and service? I've never purchased an AEM product before.
because we have purchased them and dealt with them.
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because we have purchased them and dealt with them.
Could you or anyone else with info be more specific? If AEM is that bad, then it's not worth it.
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I had an cold air AEM on a 2000 Integra Type R that I have since sold. The AEM was a nice piece. Never had any problems with it. The installation was really simple, never had any problems with water, seem to be a quality piece. I really can't see a lot going wrong with it. It has no moving parts. It is just a tube with a K&N air filter on it.

I never had to deal with AEM directly so I can't speak to customer service. What problems are people having specifically? Fitment, install, filter failure (ingesting water)? I really want to know since I am planning on doing this mod when I get my TL next month.
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What web-sites can I visit to inquire about purchasing a CAI either AEM or Injen.


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Originally Posted by BOSS
What web-sites can I visit to inquire about purchasing a CAI either AEM or Injen.


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You can order from this site. Go to the home page and click on the intake link in the lower right corner. Or you can go to autocarparts.com, which is the same place.
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What web-sites can I visit to inquire about purchasing a CAI either AEM or Injen.


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You're already there...http://store.acura-tl.com/search/res...pageid=intakes
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Regarding the dyno, I'm confused... Why would the Injen cause a dip in low torque for the TL only? When I browsed the dyno charts at Injen, none of the other cars had the same issue with a significant drop in low torque, like the TL dyno showed. Is there any possibility the decrease is the result of how much throttle was applied at the start of the dyno run? In other words, is it possible the operator rolled into the throttle more smoothly on the "after" run? I don't know much about how they initiate dyno runs, so sorry if this is a stupid question.

I had a cold-air intake on my Z-28, and it seemed to improve the torque all along the rpm range.


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