Acura TL-S supercar?
07-01-2008, 12:00 AM
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Acura TL-S supercar?
Found this kind of interesting...
http://www.rsportscars.com/ronn-moto...pany-scorpion/
Originally Posted by Rsportscars.com
Introducing the Scorpion: A 40 mpg, Hydrogen-Powered True Supercar
The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion, for which Ronn Motor Company is now taking orders, makes some bold new claims that are shaking up the sports car world.
The Scorpion, the company says, will produce 450 horsepower by way of a twin turbocharged Acura TL-sourced VTEC V6, coupled with a Ronn Motor Company proprietary system that creates 130 octane hydrogen fuel on the fly using electrical energy produced by the car’s powertrain. Ronn claims the Scorpion will achieve 40 mpg highway by mixing the hydrogen fuel with gasoline at a variable ratio based on needs.
The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion is a beautiful, lightweight hydrogen power supercar, with styling unlike anything else on the market today. Whether or not these hydrogen-powered sports cars will be on the road in mass numbers any time soon is another story, but the Ronn Scorpion is certainly generating a lot of buzz in the automotive world.
Has Ronn Motor Company found a solution to the hybrid performance question? Sports car enthusiasts don’t buy the Toyota Prius, and wouldn’t drive one if you paid them. The Scorpion looks to have the guts to appeal to this market, and the styling to find its way onto the pages of wall calendars everywhere.
Ronn is taking orders for the Scorpion now, so start saving your nickels and dimes. The Scorpion hydrogen supercar car costs $150,000, and you will need to put up $50,000 upfront.
[Info Courtesy of Ronn Motor Company]
Central Texas Innovators Building New Generation of Hydrogen Cars
Company Taking Orders for One of America's First Premium Eco-Exotic Vehicles
AUSTIN, TX - Ronn Motor Company (stock RNNM) (“Company”) is well on its way to proving that efficiency can be delivered to the automobile consumer without giving up performance or styling. The Company today unveiled the key to a new generation of “green cars” by revealing the nuts and bolts of what it expects will help drive down consumers' cost to travel the highways with on demand hydrogen production.
“What we are revealing today is an innovation in the automotive industry and demonstrates American ingenuity at a time of real need “ says Ronn Motor Company's Chief Executive Officer Ronn Maxwell. “We're designing and building cars with performance components and unique styling with the objective of making the new environmentally friendly vehicle stand out with never before seen style and approximately 40 mpg plus efficiency,” he added.
The new car now in pre-production is called the “Scorpion” and the Company plans for it to be available to consumers this fall. The hydrogen delivery system with dual computer processor controls produces hydrogen on demand and in real time which will be inducted through the air intake manifold and blended with gasoline at a ratio of 30-40 percent hydrogen, according to Maxwell. The fuel for this system is derived from fracturing water molecules drawn from a small on board water tank, and will not require a high pressure, on board hydrogen storage tank or hydrogen fueling station.
Ronn Motor Company, located in the Texas Hill Country west of Austin, was founded by Maxwell and former Dell, Inc. Executive Adrian Pylypec of Austin, who is Vice President for the Company.
“We have partnered with automotive industry elite like Hydrorunner to design and produce eco-exotic cars with exclusive styling and uncompromised performance,” says Pylypec. He adds, “The Scorpion is a proof of concept vehicle that helps solve consumer energy problems today and we expect will serve as a platform for our second generation vehicles.”
About Ronn Motor Company: It is located in Marble Falls and is a design and manufacturing company focused on leading edge design, finely built premium automobiles, and balancing stunning looks and performance with eco responsible alternative power systems. These systems include Hydrogen Fuel, Hydrogen Fuel on Demand, Fuel cells, and Plug in electrics. www.ronnmotors.com
* This release contains forward-looking statements that reflect Ronn Motor Company's (the "Company") plans and expectations. In this press release and related comments by Company management, words like "expect," "anticipate," "estimate," "forecast," "objective," "plan," "goal" and similar expressions are used to identify forward-looking statements, representing management's current judgment and expectations about possible future events. Management believes these forward-looking statements and the judgments upon which they are based to be reasonable, but they involve numerous known and unknown risks are not guarantees of actual future performance or financial position, which may be materially different from what is expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements.
THE SCORPION:
Ronn Motor Company is blending the world of exotic performance cars with eco friendly fuel solutions with its first car, the Scorpion. Exclusive styling and uncompromising performance engineering will deliver the ultimate driving and ownership experience. We invite you to view the various sections of our website to gain a complete understanding of our company and its outstanding product, the Scorpion. The first automotive design of several will be a mild hybrid, called the "Scorpion". This will be a light weight hand built carbon fiber body, over a race car designed chrome-moly chassis, powered by the latest high tech Acura V-Tech, V-6, Type S, 3.5 Liter power-plant from the 2008 TL TypeS. On board will be our Hydrogen on demand system, which provides 130 octane Hydrogen in real time, blended with gasoline in ratios of 30-50%. Coupled with a close ratio six-speed transmission and other fuel saving measures, the "Scorpion", highway fuel economy will be in the 40 mpg range, and capable of producing 450 horsepower with the twin-turbo option.
Hydrogen Fuel Injection (HFI)
Produces hydrogen during vehicle operation through electrolysis of water using the power generated from the vehicles electrical system. A small amount of hydrogen added to the vehicles intake air/fuel mixture allows the engine to operate with less fossil fuel. Ronn Motor Company will use this technology in its revolutionary Scorpion to achieve lower emissions and vastly improved fuel economy.
There are two main kinds of Hydrogen Hybrid automobile. These are fuel cell vehicles and Hydrogen internal combustion engines, (HICE) like our first automobile "The Scorpion". Fuel cell vehicles are electric cars. Hydrogen is pumped into a tank in the car, just as gasoline. The hydrogen gas is then fed into the fuel cell where it is electrochemically converted into electricity--with no combustion, no moving parts and no emissions other than water vapor. The electricity is used to power the vehicle. Hydrogen ICE vehicles use a regular combustion engine modified to use gaseous hydrogen instead of liquid gasoline (much like a natural gas vehicle is modified). They burn hydrogen or a combination of gasoline and hydrogen, but since there is no carbon in hydrogen, there are no or almost no CO2 emissions and only trace amounts of NOx (oxides of nitrogen). Hydrogen ICE vehicles are typically about 30-50% more efficient than comparable gasoline vehicles.
While the technology has been around for awhile, advances in technology have made it possible to produce hydrogen on board, on demand as needed. We have a strategic partnership with www.hydrorunner.com, which has allowed Ronn Motor Company to bring to market quickly, a premium exotic automobile, that is a perfect first step to a solution of the problems, facing the automobile industry as it enters into this transitional phase.
Base Price: 2008 Ronn Motor Company Scorpion: $150,000
The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion, for which Ronn Motor Company is now taking orders, makes some bold new claims that are shaking up the sports car world.
The Scorpion, the company says, will produce 450 horsepower by way of a twin turbocharged Acura TL-sourced VTEC V6, coupled with a Ronn Motor Company proprietary system that creates 130 octane hydrogen fuel on the fly using electrical energy produced by the car’s powertrain. Ronn claims the Scorpion will achieve 40 mpg highway by mixing the hydrogen fuel with gasoline at a variable ratio based on needs.
The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion is a beautiful, lightweight hydrogen power supercar, with styling unlike anything else on the market today. Whether or not these hydrogen-powered sports cars will be on the road in mass numbers any time soon is another story, but the Ronn Scorpion is certainly generating a lot of buzz in the automotive world.
Has Ronn Motor Company found a solution to the hybrid performance question? Sports car enthusiasts don’t buy the Toyota Prius, and wouldn’t drive one if you paid them. The Scorpion looks to have the guts to appeal to this market, and the styling to find its way onto the pages of wall calendars everywhere.
Ronn is taking orders for the Scorpion now, so start saving your nickels and dimes. The Scorpion hydrogen supercar car costs $150,000, and you will need to put up $50,000 upfront.
[Info Courtesy of Ronn Motor Company]
Central Texas Innovators Building New Generation of Hydrogen Cars
Company Taking Orders for One of America's First Premium Eco-Exotic Vehicles
AUSTIN, TX - Ronn Motor Company (stock RNNM) (“Company”) is well on its way to proving that efficiency can be delivered to the automobile consumer without giving up performance or styling. The Company today unveiled the key to a new generation of “green cars” by revealing the nuts and bolts of what it expects will help drive down consumers' cost to travel the highways with on demand hydrogen production.
“What we are revealing today is an innovation in the automotive industry and demonstrates American ingenuity at a time of real need “ says Ronn Motor Company's Chief Executive Officer Ronn Maxwell. “We're designing and building cars with performance components and unique styling with the objective of making the new environmentally friendly vehicle stand out with never before seen style and approximately 40 mpg plus efficiency,” he added.
The new car now in pre-production is called the “Scorpion” and the Company plans for it to be available to consumers this fall. The hydrogen delivery system with dual computer processor controls produces hydrogen on demand and in real time which will be inducted through the air intake manifold and blended with gasoline at a ratio of 30-40 percent hydrogen, according to Maxwell. The fuel for this system is derived from fracturing water molecules drawn from a small on board water tank, and will not require a high pressure, on board hydrogen storage tank or hydrogen fueling station.
Ronn Motor Company, located in the Texas Hill Country west of Austin, was founded by Maxwell and former Dell, Inc. Executive Adrian Pylypec of Austin, who is Vice President for the Company.
“We have partnered with automotive industry elite like Hydrorunner to design and produce eco-exotic cars with exclusive styling and uncompromised performance,” says Pylypec. He adds, “The Scorpion is a proof of concept vehicle that helps solve consumer energy problems today and we expect will serve as a platform for our second generation vehicles.”
About Ronn Motor Company: It is located in Marble Falls and is a design and manufacturing company focused on leading edge design, finely built premium automobiles, and balancing stunning looks and performance with eco responsible alternative power systems. These systems include Hydrogen Fuel, Hydrogen Fuel on Demand, Fuel cells, and Plug in electrics. www.ronnmotors.com
* This release contains forward-looking statements that reflect Ronn Motor Company's (the "Company") plans and expectations. In this press release and related comments by Company management, words like "expect," "anticipate," "estimate," "forecast," "objective," "plan," "goal" and similar expressions are used to identify forward-looking statements, representing management's current judgment and expectations about possible future events. Management believes these forward-looking statements and the judgments upon which they are based to be reasonable, but they involve numerous known and unknown risks are not guarantees of actual future performance or financial position, which may be materially different from what is expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements.
THE SCORPION:
Ronn Motor Company is blending the world of exotic performance cars with eco friendly fuel solutions with its first car, the Scorpion. Exclusive styling and uncompromising performance engineering will deliver the ultimate driving and ownership experience. We invite you to view the various sections of our website to gain a complete understanding of our company and its outstanding product, the Scorpion. The first automotive design of several will be a mild hybrid, called the "Scorpion". This will be a light weight hand built carbon fiber body, over a race car designed chrome-moly chassis, powered by the latest high tech Acura V-Tech, V-6, Type S, 3.5 Liter power-plant from the 2008 TL TypeS. On board will be our Hydrogen on demand system, which provides 130 octane Hydrogen in real time, blended with gasoline in ratios of 30-50%. Coupled with a close ratio six-speed transmission and other fuel saving measures, the "Scorpion", highway fuel economy will be in the 40 mpg range, and capable of producing 450 horsepower with the twin-turbo option.
Hydrogen Fuel Injection (HFI)
Produces hydrogen during vehicle operation through electrolysis of water using the power generated from the vehicles electrical system. A small amount of hydrogen added to the vehicles intake air/fuel mixture allows the engine to operate with less fossil fuel. Ronn Motor Company will use this technology in its revolutionary Scorpion to achieve lower emissions and vastly improved fuel economy.
There are two main kinds of Hydrogen Hybrid automobile. These are fuel cell vehicles and Hydrogen internal combustion engines, (HICE) like our first automobile "The Scorpion". Fuel cell vehicles are electric cars. Hydrogen is pumped into a tank in the car, just as gasoline. The hydrogen gas is then fed into the fuel cell where it is electrochemically converted into electricity--with no combustion, no moving parts and no emissions other than water vapor. The electricity is used to power the vehicle. Hydrogen ICE vehicles use a regular combustion engine modified to use gaseous hydrogen instead of liquid gasoline (much like a natural gas vehicle is modified). They burn hydrogen or a combination of gasoline and hydrogen, but since there is no carbon in hydrogen, there are no or almost no CO2 emissions and only trace amounts of NOx (oxides of nitrogen). Hydrogen ICE vehicles are typically about 30-50% more efficient than comparable gasoline vehicles.
While the technology has been around for awhile, advances in technology have made it possible to produce hydrogen on board, on demand as needed. We have a strategic partnership with www.hydrorunner.com, which has allowed Ronn Motor Company to bring to market quickly, a premium exotic automobile, that is a perfect first step to a solution of the problems, facing the automobile industry as it enters into this transitional phase.
Base Price: 2008 Ronn Motor Company Scorpion: $150,000
07-01-2008, 12:23 AM
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I disagree... I think the styling lines look extremely aggressive, especially the rear quarter panel which clearly suggest engine is in the rear... the side skirts are maniac
07-01-2008, 12:35 AM
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450hp and 40mpg from a tl-s 3.5 engine, not bad... not bad @ all... check out there website they have more pics of tha whole body and different colors..... looks kool imo....
450hp with tha twin turbo option...lol
450hp with tha twin turbo option...lol
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07-01-2008, 01:18 AM
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if only they made it to mold more similar to a 3G TL's body; i'd seriously get a loan just to buy it.
I dunno why, but the 3G TL design, the E92 designs....it's what i gravitates towards O_O
I dunno why, but the 3G TL design, the E92 designs....it's what i gravitates towards O_O
07-01-2008, 08:18 AM
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I wonder how they worked out the engine management to control the twin turbo + hydrogen setup?? Maybe we should be talking to these guys in regards to tuning boosted TL-S's.
07-01-2008, 11:07 AM
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I'm guessing the engine has a lot of work done to it to take advantage of the increased octane rating of the fuel. This is really the only way to actually see any sort of improvement by producing and burning hydrogen on the fly. All the systems that just add hydrogen back into the stock engine have no potential benefits. This on the other hand, at least has sound reasoning behind the design.
That being said, I'm sure they've done away with all of the complicated stuff the ECU does in the TL. There is likely no DBW or VSA. It may even be so much as no AC (it's a sports car anyway). When you get rid of all that stuff, it's a lot less daunting of a task to hand build a new ECU.
And it looks pretty damn bad ass while it's at it.
That being said, I'm sure they've done away with all of the complicated stuff the ECU does in the TL. There is likely no DBW or VSA. It may even be so much as no AC (it's a sports car anyway). When you get rid of all that stuff, it's a lot less daunting of a task to hand build a new ECU.
And it looks pretty damn bad ass while it's at it.
07-01-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by The Starbuck
First off this would not be a TL-S. This would be even more than the NSX when it was around. So I highly doubt Acura would put this in the level with the TL.
Reading ftw.
07-01-2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JJaber06
It wouldn't be either...however, it is taking the powerplant from the TL-S (SOHC 3.5L V6) , so its more related to the TL than the NSX. And this isn't being built by Acura...
Reading ftw.
Reading ftw.
I think it's an incredible concept car and a nice feather in our cap to know the TL-S engine was used as the power plant.
07-01-2008, 12:52 PM
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Has the car been tested or are these all claims? It would be awesome to have a 450hp 40mpg car, but I won't believe it until I see proof.
07-02-2008, 07:43 AM
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oh come on....are you kiddin me.
http://www.ronnmotors.com/index.php?...id=7&Itemid=12
This link is from their OFFICIAL SITE!!!
first off...the J-Series V6 is not DOHC!
second...it's not V-tech...it's VTEC
third...in stock form the engine is not 289hp, it's 286hp
fourth...do the tl-s engines really have magnesium blocks or are they on crack about that also? i always thought it's aluminum head and block.
the 6mt is obviously from the tl-s...but they claim a 6at in 2009, possibly the 2009 TL transmission and that's a sign that it will have 6 gear ratios. But then again after the bogus shit i've just read i can definatly not beleive in anything they say.
this must be fake or something...can they really be that damn retarded??? jesus christ
http://www.ronnmotors.com/index.php?...id=7&Itemid=12
This link is from their OFFICIAL SITE!!!
first off...the J-Series V6 is not DOHC!
second...it's not V-tech...it's VTEC
third...in stock form the engine is not 289hp, it's 286hp
fourth...do the tl-s engines really have magnesium blocks or are they on crack about that also? i always thought it's aluminum head and block.
the 6mt is obviously from the tl-s...but they claim a 6at in 2009, possibly the 2009 TL transmission and that's a sign that it will have 6 gear ratios. But then again after the bogus shit i've just read i can definatly not beleive in anything they say.
this must be fake or something...can they really be that damn retarded??? jesus christ
07-02-2008, 07:51 AM
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btw...highway 40mpg for a car this light is not really all that surprising.
when you let the turbos spin for a while you'll easily be getting less than 15mpg city.
and again.......their claim of 40mpg and 450hp could be total bogus like the rest of the stuff they said about it.
when you let the turbos spin for a while you'll easily be getting less than 15mpg city.
and again.......their claim of 40mpg and 450hp could be total bogus like the rest of the stuff they said about it.
07-02-2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by adrian_04tl
i wonder if i can take my car there an get twin turbo setup.... car looks nice!!!
07-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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yea single turbo only unless ur ready to rip out the AC the ABS pump and heater at which point doesnt seem logical....prob make some serious mods to the frame too.
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