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Old 03-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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acura tl oil change

I got a brand new acura tl 08 type-s and i was just wondering What was your mileage at when you did your first oil change?
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I can't speak for my new 08 (its too new) but I would usually change my 04's at around 5500 miles. This is about the time the MID would hit 10% life remaining. Of course, this is for the TL base/Navi and not the TL-S. FWIW.
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I'm right about 6k & it shows less than 15% ...
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i'm at 5900 and just hit 15%. If i wait to 0% or 5% i'd assume 6500-7000, but i have an appointment for Thurs 3/13...free too, compliments of the salesman.
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I would change the oil every 5000 miles max. The mid is a nice feature but I wouldn't ever go above 5000 miles even if it is synthetic. They are studies that oil filters breakdown after a certain time and miles. I drive 5000 miles a month and my mid says the oil life is at 40%. I change the wifes Lexus oil every 4 months regardless of how many miles are on it. You have to change the oil every 4 months. A lot of people forget that and only end up getting 2 oil changes a year. Thats a lot of old oil sitting in the engine. It's not worth the pennies you save on the oil.
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A Lot of people said a good oil filter+good oil should do the job. Here's my combo - Mobil1 M1-104 Oil filter(@ your local walmart/kragens/auto parts store) + 5w-30 Royla Purple... Should last me about 6-7k
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Our 1st Oil Change came at ~4,500 miles (MID was <10%).
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Originally Posted by mmade22
I would change the oil every 5000 miles max. The mid is a nice feature but I wouldn't ever go above 5000 miles even if it is synthetic. They are studies that oil filters breakdown after a certain time and miles. I drive 5000 miles a month and my mid says the oil life is at 40%. I change the wifes Lexus oil every 4 months regardless of how many miles are on it. You have to change the oil every 4 months. A lot of people forget that and only end up getting 2 oil changes a year. Thats a lot of old oil sitting in the engine. It's not worth the pennies you save on the oil.
thats your opinion...oil doesnt need to be changed every 4 months...i used to get away with one oil change a year due to low miliage...you can go longer than 5k on conventional oil, synthetic can go 10k...now do i got that far...no, i use mobil 1 and change every 5-7.5k miles...
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first oil change at 3500 (city driving)
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Originally Posted by phatboyblu80
I got a brand new acura tl 08 type-s and i was just wondering What was your mileage at when you did your first oil change?
Did my first oil change @ 6,003 miles.
Old 03-10-2008, 01:58 AM
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07 TL Type S and first oil change at 3509 miles. I usually change the oil and filter every three months.
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There is way to much paranoia on this site over oil. Change it when the MID tells you too, get oil/filter that meets the manufactures standards & don't worry about it.

My cars/trucks usually get swapped out at 120,000 miles or so & in 49 years of driving I never lost an engine following manufactures specs.

My BMW 330's MID goes about 15,000 miles between changes & my new trucks' change interval falls someplace between the TL & the 330. The current standards are all over the place but the 3,000 mile rule of thumb is long gone with the overall improvement in engine metallurgy, oil & filter technology.

Was a time you changed plugs & adjusted points every 5,000 miles or so now they go 100,000 miles & there are no points. The 5 speed auto on the Explorer I just sold did not even have a dipstick, It was sealed with a fluid/filter change due in the 100,000+ mile area.
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Don't change it until the MID gets below 20%.
Acura uses a special hi moly oil for break in, and a Filtrete filter.
Too early a change is not recommended.
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i do mine at 2,000 mile intervals obv SYN dont relli care if its a waste of money i just love my car and i use OE filter
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Originally Posted by 1fsthatch
i do mine at 2,000 mile intervals obv SYN dont relli care if its a waste of money i just love my car and i use OE filter
you can still love your car and change your oil every 5k....but every 2k is just uncalled for, not to mention what it would do to our enviorment if everyone in the world would change their motor oil every 2k miles....

besides, your not getting any added advantage by changing your oil as often as you do...
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
you can still love your car and change your oil every 5k....but every 2k is just uncalled for, not to mention what it would do to our enviorment if everyone in the world would change their motor oil every 2k miles....

besides, your not getting any added advantage by changing your oil as often as you do...
It works out. Darksom1 does his once a year.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
It works out. Darksom1 does his once a year.
my motorcycle gets a once a year oil change....i cant see changing it anymore than that...1k miles a year...
Old 03-10-2008, 03:25 PM
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07 TLS, 5079 miles for first oil change with MID just changed to < 10%. I agree with everyone else here, every 3 month or 3000 mile oil change is long gone.
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I use to do the 3K syn oil change on my last 3 cars.
It was fine, the engines never died, but the trannies usually went out.
Always ended up getting another car.
IMO I wasted thousands of $'s and left a 67% larger carbon footprint.
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did my first change at 2500, dont ask me why, I just always do
Old 03-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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Just go with the MID. It recommends service roughly every 5K miles or so.
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Hondas have a break in oil that they told us not to change tell so many miles..on the accord and tsx...what do the owner manuals say now? or keep it simple ask the service folks..
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Just to let you guys know. I had my oil anaylized at 10% life left. Still had life left in it. I was leary when I just got the car, but I'm happy saving money and helping the environment.
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My wife has an 08 Accord and it's at 7000 miles and the MID still says 40%. I called the dealership and spoke with the service manager. He asked me about her driving, when I told him that she drives about 100 miles a day and 95 of those are on the freeway he said that the oil was fine and that I shouldn't worry about changing it until the MID gets below 20%...

I'm thinking I'm pushing my luck, what do you guys think?
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The different sensors detect how hard the car is being driven. The easier the drive, the less stress on the oil.
You are not pushing your luck.
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My wife has an 08 Accord and it's at 7000 miles and the MID still says 40%. I called the dealership and spoke with the service manager. He asked me about her driving, when I told him that she drives about 100 miles a day and 95 of those are on the freeway he said that the oil was fine and that I shouldn't worry about changing it until the MID gets below 20%...

I'm thinking I'm pushing my luck, what do you guys think?



The different sensors detect how hard the car is being driven. The easier the drive, the less stress on the oil.
You are not pushing your luck.
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
There is way to much paranoia on this site over oil. Change it when the MID tells you too, get oil/filter that meets the manufactures standards & don't worry about it.

My cars/trucks usually get swapped out at 120,000 miles or so & in 49 years of driving I never lost an engine following manufactures specs.

My BMW 330's MID goes about 15,000 miles between changes & my new trucks' change interval falls someplace between the TL & the 330. The current standards are all over the place but the 3,000 mile rule of thumb is long gone with the overall improvement in engine metallurgy, oil & filter technology.
You do realize that BMW's intervals "coincedentially" extended at the same time they started their free maint program? Many have been doing at least 1 oil/filter change in between. But as to the OP's question, and this is just my opinion, for a new engine it has factory fill fluid so that should get changed when the manufacturer suggests but beyond that using a good synthetic is your best bet. Even though dino oil has come a long way, if your engine starts to overheat you want something in there that's gonna hold and not start to break down at higher temps. I personally use Amsoil in my '98 528 (auto tranny, 173,000 miles, lots of city driving only 3 miles to work) & my wife's '06 Nissan Xterra (6 speed manual tranny, 40,000 miles, about 15 highway miles each way to work plus about 50 highway miles each way to her parents house about once a week). I'll say to anyone no matter which oil/filter combo you use or your driving habits definately after the 1st change have the oil analyzed like 1st @ 5000 miles and from there they can tell you how it's holding up and what if anything the filter is letting by then recommend you go longer or shorter intervals. It also helps as they can identify possible internal problems in the engine before it becomes a costly fix.

And no I don't work for Blackstone or any other of the companies (I actually work for a utility company). While I do like my toys, I'd be pissed to have to pay for a new/rebuilt engine, and we all know once you're out of warranty is when it'll happen and it'll be an uphill battle trying to prove the damage was from following the manufacturer's guidelines or the MID.
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From owner's manual, if the maintenance minder has "A" in front of it....means only the "OIL" gets changed, but NOT the oil filter....is that true?
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The dealer gave me a free change at 3,750 miles. Since then I've let the car say when via the MID - around 6,000 miles. Changing oil unnecessarily is a waste of resources. It can also be bad for the environment if you don't recycle.
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Originally Posted by mb190
From owner's manual, if the maintenance minder has "A" in front of it....means only the "OIL" gets changed, but NOT the oil filter....is that true?
Very funny I hope you were trying to be funny.
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This an issue that has been discussed many times here. Honda is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines in the world e.g. cars, motorcycles, lawn mowers, generators, snowblowers etc etc, and even make engines for General Motors. They are also a leading developer of Formula 1 racing engines. Their engineers say follow the MID and back it up with a four year warranty. Why we don't want to follow their advice is another question.
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Very funny I hope you were trying to be funny.
Tell me I interpret this wrong......
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Originally Posted by schill38
My wife has an 08 Accord and it's at 7000 miles and the MID still says 40%.
I seem to be following suit. i had my oil changed ~3000 miles ago and it still says 80% remaining. And i do a lot of short trips, no highway driving, and over these cold months too. hopefully its not broken, that would really screw me up. maybe its on the edge of turning to 70%, but i cant tell cause its so imprecise. my friends pontiac changes every 1 percent, not every 10! maybe i really will get 15k out of it? i sure hope not (although i wouldnt mind staying away from the dealer longer).



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Their engineers say follow the MID and back it up with a four year warranty. Why we don't want to follow their advice is another question.
I completely agree. For those of us who didnt design the engine, why would you do something with it other than what those designers intended? I'm not an idiot, but i think i would trust the people capable of creating an engine like this over my own opinion or that of anyone else. I'm sure there are factors regarding when to change the oil that none of us could imagine. good luck to those who disagree.
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Originally Posted by mmade22
I would change the oil every 5000 miles max. The mid is a nice feature but I wouldn't ever go above 5000 miles even if it is synthetic. They are studies that oil filters breakdown after a certain time and miles. I drive 5000 miles a month and my mid says the oil life is at 40%. I change the wifes Lexus oil every 4 months regardless of how many miles are on it. You have to change the oil every 4 months. A lot of people forget that and only end up getting 2 oil changes a year. Thats a lot of old oil sitting in the engine. It's not worth the pennies you save on the oil.
Why does one HAVE to change their oil every 4 months? Is that a magic number? I change the oil in my bike once a year and run Amsoil full synthetic. I have friends who have sent Amsoil samples to Blackstone Labs with over 10K and it was determined to have alot of life left in it. If it makes you feel better, it's all good, but it's a waste of money and rough on the environment.
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Very funny I hope you were trying to be funny.
Tell me I interpret it wrong....
Fromp page 278 in my Ower's manual.

Symbol A : Replace engine oil

Symbol B: Replace engine oil and oil filter
etc.
etc.
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Two things, the BMW runs on pure syn & the change interval on the MID & in the manual is about 15,000mi. Another one of my cards runs an average of 10,000mi on its MID. I am sure the Honda MID which is set for dino oil & much more conservative will cause you no problems if you follow it.

I am amazed how many people are still living in the 1950's when it comes to oil change intervals. That being said if you want to change it 4 times a year enjoy, but maybe 6 times is better or 12 times better yet, except you might wear out the plug

Regarding the A & B service: Why run clean oil through an already dirty filter? Since the car is already being serviced another 30-40 seconds & a few bucks seems like a good plan.
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Regarding the A & B service: Why run clean oil through an already dirty filter? Since the car is already being serviced another 30-40 seconds & a few bucks seems like a good plan.
That's what I worry about....
I am asking if that is what Acura does...only change oil & NOT oil filter for "A" service. If yes, I'll either do the oil change myself or insist them change the filter too.
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07 TLs i did my first at 6k and i do it evey month or up to 70% using mobile 1 synthetic
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Originally Posted by mb190
That's what I worry about....
I am asking if that is what Acura does...only change oil & NOT oil filter for "A" service. If yes, I'll either do the oil change myself or insist them change the filter too.
That's an interesting point you bring up.
I guess it doesn't hurt to ask before they do it.
But who actually knows what they do to your car when they bring it into their service bay.


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