so im in the 75 south exit heading to 285 east and there is this silver 3rd gen with blacked out tails and headlights and a custom tag that launched when we got on the highway.

(he was revving his engine before we got onto 75 trying to bait me)

so i played a little catch up and caught him right when we got into 285.

we both made our way to the furthest two passing lanes and lined up. right when i got next to him i heard him throw it in third.

i did the same

accelerated a bit so that he can get in my lane (car was in front of him)

we both gunned it and it was even till the end of 3rd (all 2 seconds of 3rd)

i shifted into 4th "goddamn fast" according to my girlfriend and we kept pulling

he was behind me and i could see him falling behind me more and more so i shut it down when i was about 2 cars ahead of him. (110 ish)

i couldve kept pulling but i think i made my point.

 

nice kill!

 

good kill bro, I bet he didn't expect that, I know I would of shit my pants! lol

 

Nice kill.

 

that one seems to be hitting a bit closer to home than most posted races, if you know what i mean

what mods do you have phee?

 

Awesome. Wish there were vids.

 

headers, exhaust leak, and short ram since my intake broke. some other misc shit like weight reduction

 

i thought i would win so i didnt bother at first but the day was so nice and the car sounded so good

you and me both. but who carries a camera around unless they are looking for trouble

 

damn phee your 2G pulls pretty hard hopefully i dont run into you in atl and get embarrased lol knowing me, ill probably be the one to pick on you first then see your taillights

 

It's a dog from a standstill tho. I think a 3g would pull on me from a stop. No doubt I will win from a roll. But I really don't roll race unless provoked.

 

good kill phee! any info on who the guy was? maybe from that 3G side?

 

good kill...

 

No idea who it was. Tag said infamous

 

you should make a 2g Weight reduction thread, im at ~3350 (without backseats, i only take them out sometimes)

 

Hey Phee, I still have those CL-S mufflers laying around. If I remember I'll bring them to you next time I'm up there.

 

its all good slick. got some magnaflows going in this weekend

 

+1 for that. Id like to know what is worth taking out.

I took the backseats out of my TL-S and all it is, is foam with some metal wiring... couldn't have weighed more than 20 pounds for the both of them.

 

ive taken out all the sound dampening from behind the door panels and under the carpets.
removed trunk lining.
removed steering wheel backing plate with weight on it.
engine cradle dampeners.
no windshield washer fluid.
no spare or tools in the trunk.
3rd gen wheels (lighter than 2g wheels).
no foam under the hood.
no engine covers. entire
exhaust is aluminum (soon to be mild steel).
replaced rotors with lighter weight ones. smaller battery, intake.
no fender lining under the front.
fiberglass grill. r
emoved 3rd brake light (minimal i know).
removed rear window visor mount brackets (it was an option on my black interior)
Replaced component speakers with small magnet speakers
replaced headunit with screen thats lighter
springs are lighter than oem
headers are lighter than oem
Hid ballasts are the slim ballasts
theres a lot more but im drawing a blank

 

oem sub and amp?

 

oh yea. removed all the amps and wiring in the car. ran my own thin wires and have a light sub in the back. probably gunna be replaced by an 8 inch

 

what rotors did you get? did you weigh them or did they just feel lighter than stock?

the brakemotive rotors i bought from here are actually heavier than stock

 

some EBC's. they are about 3-4lbs lighter than the stocks

 

so how much does your car weight now ?

 

shit if i know. i havent gotten it weighed since before the interior swap. i was somewhere around 200 lbs lighter than stock

 

The 3rd gen TL wheels (5 spoke 17x8) are lighter than the 2nd gen TL-s wheels?

The 03 TL-s wheels come on my car from the factory and are only 6.5" wide, I thought for sure the 3rd gen TL wheels were heavier.

 

my tires are lighter than the stock ones

and the 3g wheels are lighter than the 99 ones i had

 

So let me get this straight the 2nd gen tl with a 6sp swap is faster than the 3rd gen 6spd? arent they pretty much the same specs? about the same hp, tq...

 

I don't think think. He is faster because he has taken weight out of the car.
Actually, I believe the 2nd gen TL is a little bit lighter from the factory, so it may be slightly quicker.


Weight reduction, in a sense, is just like adding power. Less weight with the same power is in essence the same as same weight more power (within reason obviously).

 

I believe a big boon for the 2g is also being able to bolt on headers.

 

3rg gen has a bit more tq but weight comes into play. keep in mind im very-not-stock
and i have a 99 tl with no nav. its the lightest 2nd gen tl available
bolt on heders are good for a 15-20hp gain. its less for the 6 speeds unfortunately.

 

15-20whp is a big deal on a N/A car! I can imagine the headers shift your curve a little to the right as well depending on design.

You should go to the local landfill or drag strip and hop on the scales

 

^^ Indeed.

Phee you are probably as light if not lighter than my Accord coupe. I weighed in @3150 (without driver) with a little less than 1/2 tank. I have no weight reduction at all. I will weigh when I go back to the track without my spare tire and jack and nothing lying around in the car (like always) and see what my race-ready weight is

 

That's very close to what my car weighs. Without spare/jack, about 1/3 tank, full interior (blah bose and heated seats) it comes out to 3090 without me in it. What sucks is that I bring that up to 3350

With cars around 3000 lbs, you can normally translate every 100lbs in weight reduction to roughly .10 in the 1/4 mile. Launching and hooking also become easier, and you're less likely to break drivetrain parts! Good stuff

Also for a little extra at the track (5-10hp), remove your power steering belt. It's not so fun to drive like that, but every little bit counts...

 

power what belt?

 

yeah i undertsand power to weight ratio, Just asking cause i didnt read what his mods were. He's 200 lbs lighter? wow thats a lot of shit to take out!

 

power steering belt frees up a few hp if you take it off.

 

hell yeah its is. So headers on the j series gives you 15-20hp? wow thats big, i need some headers quick. I've been a b and h series guy and unless you get some custom header you olny gain about 4-6 hp..

 

i know..the ninja was because i take mine off at the track.
u cant get headers for your accord. the heads have a manifold cast into them

 

3241 lbs

 

Phee is right. You can't get headers but you can get the PreCat deletes which delete the primary cats. Similar to 'test pipes' on the G35/350z.