6MT Clutch install
#4
Why? Hopefully you haven't roasted your clutch this soon. Unless it was installed poorly, you tow a boat or trailer, live in San Francisco, or race the car, your clutch should easily last at the very minimum over 100,000 miles.
Is it just that you would like a competition clutch?
Is it just that you would like a competition clutch?
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#10
Originally Posted by mickey3c
don't expect the clutch to last at least 100K... That very old school thinking. It's not a 4 cyl 120 HP motor. Most clutches I have seen wear out around 80K. If you get more out of it you're lucky...
I will grant you that traditionally, foreign clutches were no match for American clutches in our V8 engine'd cars. But in the more recent years, that has changed.
I know a lady who, after I taught her the proper techniques of operating a manual transmission, got over 140,000 miles on the clutch in her 1992 Honda Accord LX. And that was the last time I spoke with her in 1998! Plus, she had to negotiate traffic around the Washington, DC beltway from Maryland to Virginia and back.
I raced my 1966 SS396/360 L34 Chevelle on the street frequently and at 83,000 miles, it would easily break traction in all 4 gears.
I will be perfectly willing to bet you $1000 right now that I can, with no problem, get over 100,000 miles on the clutch in my '04 TL.
#11
Originally Posted by mickey3c
don't expect the clutch to last at least 100K... That very old school thinking. It's not a 4 cyl 120 HP motor. Most clutches I have seen wear out around 80K. If you get more out of it you're lucky...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=downshifting
#12
Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
One more thing. If you want to see how to operate a manual transmission the right way, go to this link and read post #29.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=downshifting
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=downshifting
hahaha.....
jk
#13
Oops.. did I hyjack this thread?? Not my intent nor was my intent to razz mickey3c. He either has heard of believes that clutches can only be expected to last 80,000 miles, or he has experienced this kind of life himself.
In reviewing his post response, he does mention "Most clutches I have seen wear out around 80K", so I would say that the clutches he has seen have probably had a hard life or more likely, were oeprated by people who really did not know how to drive a car with a manual transmission (by far, the most common cause of pre-mature wear).
Just trying to be helpful and shed some light on the topic.
In reviewing his post response, he does mention "Most clutches I have seen wear out around 80K", so I would say that the clutches he has seen have probably had a hard life or more likely, were oeprated by people who really did not know how to drive a car with a manual transmission (by far, the most common cause of pre-mature wear).
Just trying to be helpful and shed some light on the topic.
#14
Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Wrong. It's not uncommon at all to get over 200,000 miles on a clutch. Several members of this site have done just that. It is most not "old school thinking".
I will be perfectly willing to bet you $1000 right now that I can, with no problem, get over 100,000 miles on the clutch in my '04 TL.
I will be perfectly willing to bet you $1000 right now that I can, with no problem, get over 100,000 miles on the clutch in my '04 TL.
CHANGED THE CLUTCH ON MY TOY Pichup @ 337K...looked like i could have squeezed another 50k out of it. this 4wd vehicle DOES go off-road, and pulled a motorcycle trailer and all my race gear across the country for a few years...
i expect @ least 100k out of the TL...
#15
Originally Posted by mbwmn
CHANGED THE CLUTCH ON MY TOY Pichup @ 337K...looked like i could have squeezed another 50k out of it. this 4wd vehicle DOES go off-road, and pulled a motorcycle trailer and all my race gear across the country for a few years...
i expect @ least 100k out of the TL...
i expect @ least 100k out of the TL...
All I can say is congratulations and well done, my friend. As for 100,000 out of the TL, I would say absolutely. I fells to me like a very good clutch, so I suspect if I have the car that long, 200,000 should pose no problems.
#19
yes the thread has gotten a bit off topic... But all those who quoted 150K miles are also quoting older vehicles some from the 80s. The current trend I have seen has been about 80K of life. Sure all depends on how you drive. I have talked to numerous people who havce driven hondas and Nissans and they say the same story. Their 89 or 91 model had a clutch that lasted 150K. Their late 90s and beyond models have not at all. Same kind of driving. I have never replaced a clutch myself.
I would have a reputable shop do it.
I would have a reputable shop do it.
#20
I have the shop manual and it shows three Honda/Acura tools to remove the pressure plate. It indicates that irreversible damage will occur to the pressure plate unless it is removed without these tools. One of the tools is a flywheel lock (fairly common in most shops), a pressure plate finger press tool, and a unusual brace with a jack screw in the center.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
Originally Posted by speedracerIII
This was a thread to see if anyone has replaced the clutch in an 04 TL...Obviously we got a little off topic??
#21
Typing mistake. Should read
I have the shop manual and it shows three Honda/Acura tools to remove the pressure plate. It indicates that irreversible damage will occur to the pressure plate unless it is removed with these tools. One of the tools is a flywheel lock (fairly common in most shops), a pressure plate finger press tool, and a unusual brace with a jack screw in the center.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
I have the shop manual and it shows three Honda/Acura tools to remove the pressure plate. It indicates that irreversible damage will occur to the pressure plate unless it is removed with these tools. One of the tools is a flywheel lock (fairly common in most shops), a pressure plate finger press tool, and a unusual brace with a jack screw in the center.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
Originally Posted by Legend2TL
I have the shop manual and it shows three Honda/Acura tools to remove the pressure plate. It indicates that irreversible damage will occur to the pressure plate unless it is removed without these tools. One of the tools is a flywheel lock (fairly common in most shops), a pressure plate finger press tool, and a unusual brace with a jack screw in the center.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
I've done 5 clutch replacements (but not to my 05 6MT TL) and never seen the later two tools used before. The job itself is straighforward with the exception of using the jackscrew to apply pressure to the throwout fingers while the pressure plate bolts are removed.
#22
Originally Posted by speedracerIII
Hi...I have a lift at work as well as tools...I beat the hell out of the clutch racing and what not...31K it is not slipping...However showing signs of becoming weak.
#23
ill tell u this.....in the service manual it points out that u need at least 10 different "special tools" that honda obviously provides the techs with...that u can get from snap-on because it gives the part numbers as well.....but i wouldnt do it myself only because u have to drop ur subframe and support the motor from the top...in other words....no thanks.
#24
Originally Posted by Tripnbeats
ill tell u this.....in the service manual it points out that u need at least 10 different "special tools" that honda obviously provides the techs with...that u can get from snap-on because it gives the part numbers as well.....but i wouldnt do it myself only because u have to drop ur subframe and support the motor from the top...in other words....no thanks.
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